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    i dn't know much about guns, why would a shotgun blast not go through the wall of your neighbors ?
    a shotgun shoots a bunch of small pellets instead of one heavy bullet...they might go through the wall but wouldn't be carrying lethal kinetic energy at that point...where a bullet can go through several sheet rocked walls if it doesn't hit a wood stud and still kill someone.

    The absolute best shotgun for home defense would be a pump shotgun...Every burglar in the world know that *rack*rack* sound as you chamber a s and you don't have to say a word...99% of the time they will just all over themselves and whimper "please don't shoot!"

    If they don't you just waste em.

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    i dn't know much about guns, why would a shotgun blast not go through the wall of your neighbors ?
    If you shoot a slug you do but it's not typically as big a concern with buckshot.

    It's more of a concern with hand guns that have a high velocity round.

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    Lets put it this way...

    When a cop REALLY thinks he's about to get into the his first stop is his trunk for the shotgun...

    And THEY have to practice with their pistols as a requirement of their job and are proficient with them.

    do what the pros do.

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    do what the pros do.


    Yea, but these are kinda hard to come by...

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    Yea, but these are kinda hard to come by...
    LOL

    Thats what you and I would do but these are amateurs we are advising.

    The KISS rule.

    Keep It Simple Stupid.

    A subsonic suppressed HK91 might be a little much.

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    Looking for something relatively small and easy to handle.
    i have what you're looking for

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    It really depends on what you are comfortable handling. A shotgun is nice, but try to stay away from the 12 gauge. A 20 gauge will do the same job but with about 40-50% less recoil and is easier to handle because it is not as heavy as a 12. A revolver like a .38 is also good, for something light, small, easy to handle, dummy proof, and will never jam on you. As for pistols, a 9mm should be plenty of firepower and most hold around 10 rounds and can be fired off very quickly in succession. If you are worried about wall penetration of a wayward bullet, buy some MagSafe or Glaser Safety Slug ammunition, it is pre-fragmented and will not overpenetrate through walls or doors, but will be devestating if it hits flesh. Load your clip with hollowpoints and top it off with 2 of the pre-fragmented type, and you should be set.

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    set up some mines around your house.

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    If you are getting something for home self defense, get a shotgun. Lethal at close range, more forgiving accuracy wise in the stress of a break in, and you don't have to worry about killing the next door neighbor after shooting through your wall into their house.
    Good call, there is also no ballistics tests for shotguns that I am aware of...

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    I think it was a trick question

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    It really depends on what you are comfortable handling. A shotgun is nice, but try to stay away from the 12 gauge. A 20 gauge will do the same job but with about 40-50% less recoil and is easier to handle because it is not as heavy as a 12. A revolver like a .38 is also good, for something light, small, easy to handle, dummy proof, and will never jam on you. As for pistols, a 9mm should be plenty of firepower and most hold around 10 rounds and can be fired off very quickly in succession. If you are worried about wall penetration of a wayward bullet, buy some MagSafe or Glaser Safety Slug ammunition, it is pre-fragmented and will not overpenetrate through walls or doors, but will be devestating if it hits flesh. Load your clip with hollowpoints and top it off with 2 of the pre-fragmented type, and you should be set.
    I'm sorry, but a 9 MM isn't really a great idea for home defense. Go with at least something starting with .4... either a .40 S&W or .45. Could get away with .357 as well.

    9 MM isn't near as lethal unless you bring multiple rounds on target.

    Anyway, the best option's still the tried and true pump action shot gun.

    Oh, and whatever you get, go practice with it somewhere. Hit the range and shoot at least once a month. If you get the shot gun then take a shot gun defense class, they will teach you all about shooting in your home and also how to properly use the stock as a close quarters weapon.

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    I hadn't really considered a shotgun before reading this thread but that makes a lot of sense.

    The only gun I have is a little .22 handgun that I keep in my desk drawer at my office for shooting at flies and such.

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    If you get the shot gun then take a shot gun defense class, they will teach you all about shooting in your home and also how to properly use the stock as a close quarters weapon.
    If it came to that after taking the class, I'd ask for my money back.

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    Go to -A place to shoot- and -dury's gun shop- both on the southside.they will treat you well,especially dury's

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    I have a shotgun and a handgun. I'd reach for the handgun every time. As far as it being with a 9mm or a 40 cal......it don't matter, break into my house, I'll put you down with either.

    Don't get me wrong a shotgun can be your friend. But what if you have to spray the guy while he's standing in the door way leading to ur kids bedroom?

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    I have a shotgun and a handgun. I'd reach for the handgun every time. As far as it being with a 9mm or a 40 cal......it don't matter, break into my house, I'll put you down with either.

    Don't get me wrong a shotgun can be your friend. But what if you have to spray the guy while he's standing in the door way leading to ur kids bedroom?
    Dang, how long is your hallway? At 20' the pattern will only be about 6". I'd rather take a chance on the child getting hit with a stray pellet than a stray bullet...

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    Dang, how long is your hallway? At 20' the pattern will only be about 6". I'd rather take a chance on the child getting hit with a stray pellet than a stray bullet...
    Your point about a stray bullet is valid.

    For home defense, I'd go with both a shotgun and handgun (IMO).

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    Another vote for a shotgun

    My ol' scattergun just killed the out of those two punks robbin my neighbors house.

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    Another vote for a shotgun

    My ol' scattergun just killed the out of those two punks robbin my neighbors house.



    Nice Shooting!

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    I am a firm believer in negative energy…Hand guns give off negative vibes…Therefore guns have a negative effect on health, wealth, personal relationships and spiritual awareness…. Fill your home with only good things... feng shui harmony, quartz crystals, aromatic biotic materials, Patchouli, Camphor, Saffron and Couch Grass…

    Believe me; the word will soon be out that you are just too darn weird to rob…

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    I'm sorry, but a 9 MM isn't really a great idea for home defense. Go with at least something starting with .4... either a .40 S&W or .45. Could get away with .357 as well.

    9 MM isn't near as lethal unless you bring multiple rounds on target.
    Hollow point

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    I love it when people start dissing the 9's, .357's etc. and saying you gotta shoot one of those wrist breaker +P/magnum rounds.

    Any volunteers to take a double tap from a 9 and THEN tell me it's not enough gun?

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    I love it when people start dissing the 9's, .357's etc. and saying you gotta shoot one of those wrist breaker +P/magnum rounds.

    Any volunteers to take a double tap from a 9 and THEN tell me it's not enough gun?

    Every time I shoot a fly with my .22 I don't hear much complaining afterwards.

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    If it came to that after taking the class, I'd ask for my money back.
    Well, the idea is that if he closes quarters too fast or comes around the corner and you don't have time to level your gun, you can still jack him with the butt end of the rifle (basically, pistol whipping him but with a bigger gun).

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    Agreed, if you get a 9 you should have hollow point for self defense/home defense rounds.

    As to those getting their panties in a wad about the lethality of a 9 mm vs. a 40 or higher, so be it. Police studies have shown that the .357, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP and GAP rounds are more lethal than 9 MMs. You're more likely to put a bad guy down with one round from any of those weapons than a 9 MM.

    Double tap is nice, but what if you only get one shot? You're simply bringing more to mass with any of those rounds than a 9 MM.

    But still, it should be shot gun first.

    Shot gun > .357 > .45 > .40 S&W > 9 MM.

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