I love my team, I'm a die-hard fan..I appreciate the 4 les..I love what the FO did from 1997 until 2004/2005..I'm not one of those fans that thinks the sky is falling..but I believe the Spurs front office is the most overrated in the NBA..we're always looked at for our "great" moves and subtle signings, but there hasn't been a great signing in a while..
a lot of them weren't the fault of the team(Scola, Splitter, Maggette), but it obviously adds up once you think of all the players that have been passed up in the draft or with any other opportunity to join the team..this off-season was CRUCIAL for our team with the age factor, and it was a great opportunity to get back..
Splitter doesn't re-sign..not the Spurs fault, but we could have traded him last season and got some value back for him(maybe even Artest, if we had traded the expirings/Splitter for him, and not KT)..I like Hill, but there were better players available..definitely a mistake from the FO..Maggette wasn't the FO's fault, it was an incompetent move by the Warriors..Roger Mason is a good player, but what a waste of money when you can get Azubuike or JR Smith(a long shot, probably wouldn't happen..but worth a try)..
so this off-season has been a failure so far..just like past off-seasons..our team has gotten old..the worst part is that the Spurs FO has actually drafted solid players, but haven't kept them..
as soon as next year, we're gonna be banking on Mahinmi and Hill to make ANY positive contribution to the team..those 2 are gonna be very important when it comes to rating our FO..
overrated or not?..
Both are RFAs and it's not at all certain either would be a greater than 20% chance to not see an offer sheet matched.Roger Mason is a good player, but what a waste of money when you can get Azubuike or JR Smith(a long shot, probably wouldn't happen..but worth a try)..
The Spurs' front office is overrated because Spurs fans have unrealistic expectations of who they can land.
Geoff Petrie.
Two words: Sam Presti
All the Spurs need to do is put TP and Manu on the market so they can make some blockbuster deals and not be deemed an "overrated" front office by their fans.
Adequately rated. When an organization without deep pockets has a lot of money tied up in several players, it's not easy to land a name player. The casual Spur fan hasn't heard or Roger Mason and had not heard of Ime Udoka last year, so they think "fail".
Many fans think an organization is better for signing guys with name value than averaging 58 wins a year. If those are the same fans doing the rating, well, that's why the FO is underappreciated.
When the Big Three are in decline/gone, then you can bash them (to a reasonable extent) for not landing the big names.
Azubuike is actually not a long shot at all..
the Warriors first priority is to sign Ellis..2nd is to sign Biedrins..third is to get a backup PG..Azubuike was actually their 4th priority according to Warrior fans..
it's not unrealistic expectations at all..for a FO that gets praised SO MUCH by fans of teams across the NBA, they haven't lived up to the hype in the past few years..
we've had the same "need" for years now..
or just sign roger mason for 1/2 the mle?
No, not over-rated. The Spurs were an untwisted or unjammed ankle away from the finals last year. Udoka has played well and will take some more of Bowen's minutes next season. Two combo guards like Hill and Mason give the Spurs a lot of versatility in the back court and the option to play small ball with Duncan at center, which would be a much more successful small ball then that played by Golden State or Phoenix because they played it without an interior defensive presence. Splitter was a brilliant pick that didn't work out. Bad luck. You wouldn't call the Celtics trade for Len Bias stupid, would you? The Spurs are still ready to be big players in the 2010 market. If they land Chris Bosh or any combo of good players, everyone will go back to saying they are one of the best FOs in basketball.
I'm not bashing..I simply don't think we're the best FO in the NBA, like I hear from the media all the time..
I loved the Ime signing last year, I thought it was great..
this off-season is crucial though, and it hasn't looked good so far..I'm a fan of Roger Mason, but 7.5 is too much..I don't know how anybody can argue that..
it's crucial because the Lakers beat us WITHOUT their up and coming C..the Hornets took us to 7 and they're still maturing..Utah is still a solid team..Portland is building a great future..Houston is solid when they're healthy..
we're not the most dominant team in the West anymore like we have been in the past..we needed moves in this off-season, and the FO hasn't delivered for us..
And clearly the fans always know what a team is going to do
Joe Dumars....yeah he's good but passing on talents like Melo, Bosh, Wade, Kaman, Hinrich and D. West for Darko is unforgivable....now there's talk he wants Tracy McHurty and wants to get rid of Prince and Billups....yikes! I guess we can pencil the 76ers into that no.2 spot now....
Pulling the starting backcourt with the #28 and 57 picks will forever keep them from being "overrated."
And they also beat us without the services of ...damn, who's that guy? ...Ginobilly, something like that.it's crucial because the Lakers beat us WITHOUT their up and coming C
Healthy Bynum and healthy Ginobili = Spurs in 6.
No Bynum and crippled Ginobili = Lakers in 5.
I'm pretty sure people that live in Golden State hear more from the local team news than most of us do..And clearly the fans always know what a team is going to do
also, I haven't even heard anything about Azubuike, which obviously says something as well..
we'll see how much money he ends up making, and then you can bash me..
I agree..but the point is, the Lakers are getting better..
which is why I clearly indicated I'm talking about the last few years..
People are always quick to say "we were one sprained ankle away from ... ." I wonder if Lakers fans say "we were one sprained/torn ligament away from winning ..."
Either which way, a sign of a good team is having players ready, willing and able to step up and fill in when primary players aren't at 100%. Which is why the Mason signing is so good given that he was great against the Cavs ....
oh wait.
is anybody actually going to give an argument as to why the Spurs FO is the best or in the top 3 best FO's in the NBA right now?..
What about it? They aren't going to do that every draft. The roster's been fairly full the last couple of years. And they did win yet another le during that timeframe.
Well, since 2004, they've had potentially more flexibility on their roster because they've had one All-Star. We've had three. All-Stars take up years and capspace.I agree..but the point is, the Lakers are getting better..
If you want to give up Manu and/or Tony in order to have room to maneuver, I respect your position but do not agree with it.
How about 3 les in the last 6 years while skirting the luxury tax threshold for a good portion of that time?
Chris Paul got $4 million this year. Clearly that's a reflection of his talent.
What restricted free agents have you heard anything about? Turiaf is the first one to get an offer, and that was earlier today.
I don't know if the FO has made any mistakes this off season. Maggette was lost because Brand went to Philly and the Warriors offered him much more money than the Spurs could. Smith & Azubuike are restricted and have generated a lot of interest.... that wouldn't be a high percentage gamble. Posey I don't really know anything about, except he wants something long-term, and is 31. Mason is in his prime, just had the best year of his career, and was willing to sign a two year deal.
Do you live in Harlem? I used to live at 125th/Riverside on the 18th floor. It was amazing.
Arguing they are the best is quite a bit different than saying they are not the most overrated in the league.
Or are you saying that unless the FO is the best in the league, it's overrated? I've never seen anyone call them the best, well until your little straw man here.
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