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    If he wants to leave in a couple of years, godspeed.

    And why don't you think he would start in Greece?
    You didn't get it.

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    Oh and thanks Maggette for making a quick decision. Without that decision, this is the caliber of player the Spurs miss out on.

    Mason flew to San Antonio on July 2nd and apparently the Spurs told him he was one of their top options after Maggette. If it was Mason or Delfino (the only two players who got as far as talking contract with the Spurs outside of Maggette), I'm glad the Spurs picked Mason.

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    You didn't get it.
    True.

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    Oh and thanks Maggette for making a quick decision. Without that decision, this is the caliber of player the Spurs miss out on.

    Mason flew to San Antonio on July 2nd and apparently the Spurs told him he was one of their top options after Maggette. If it was Mason or Delfino (the only two players who got as far as talking contract with the Spurs outside of Maggette), I'm glad the Spurs picked Mason.

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    Or possibly JR Smith,
    Slight chance.

    or possibly Josh Childress, or possibly Ben Gordon, or Kelenna Azubuike.
    No chance.

    Or, if the Spurs had used $2.5M or even $3M on Mason they might have been able to get Mason + :

    Carlos Delfino
    Remains to be seen.

    Eduardo Najera
    Nope.

    Jarvis Hayes
    RFA. Probably not.

    Dorrell Wright
    Maybe. Could definitely see Miami matching that.


    It's possible the Spurs coudl still get one of these guys, but by spending all but $2M it makes it tough to grab another decent player.
    It's a tough market. Spurs made a solid choice.

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    Or possibly JR Smith, or possibly Josh Childress, or possibly Ben Gordon, or Kelenna Azubuike.

    Or, if the Spurs had used $2.5M or even $3M on Mason they might have been able to get Mason + :

    Carlos Delfino
    Eduardo Najera
    Jarvis Hayes
    Dorrell Wright

    It's possible the Spurs coudl still get one of these guys, but by spending all but $2M it makes it tough to grab another decent player.
    If we offered Childress or Gordon the MLE their teams would have happily waited seven days and then matched and ed us over. What is so hard to understand about that?

    Spurs apparently liked Mason more than Kelenna, and we don't know that they didn't contact JR and he said he wasn't interested...

    And who's to say they don't get any of those other guys, FA isn't over yet.

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    Oh and thanks Maggette for making a quick decision. Without that decision, this is the caliber of player the Spurs miss out on.

    Mason flew to San Antonio on July 2nd and apparently the Spurs told him he was one of their top options after Maggette. If it was Mason or Delfino (the only two players who got as far as talking contract with the Spurs outside of Maggette), I'm glad the Spurs picked Mason.
    I recall reading about Mason boarding a plane to visit a team....

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    Not so high on players who threaten to kill members of the Spurs while leaving the court when they have an off night.
    Why hold that against him? Many people here on this forum seem to do the same thing, and they are actual fans.

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    Does someone want to summarize all 22 pages of this for me?

    And what the is LLE? I know what MLE is but LLE? This has bothered me all off season.

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    Outside of that, spending the entire MLE on someone would have been overpaying. So without a true MLE type, they went to the next best thing.
    I suppose we could debate whether or not he was the next best thing, but I think you ultimately have to look at the opportunity cost of paying him more than half the MLE.

    Spurs not only lost out on virtually every restricted FA left, but also a number of quality unrestricted FA that will probably command at least half the MLE.

    Again, it's just a tough pill to swallow that the Spurs had almost $6M to play with and came out with Roger Mason, who went from injury fill-in to de facto starting 2-guard for a championship-calibur team after one season of decent production.

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    Having said all that...the Spurs still have some money, so I guess I'll hold final judgement for now.

    I'll just say it's not the path I was hoping the Spurs would go to this point.

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    Spurs went after a guy who was worth the full MLE (and then some). It didn't work out. So then they go after a diamond in the rough who could conceivably be a solid role player. I'm not excited, but I'm not going to spend the rest of this evening cutting myself.

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    Does someone want to summarize all 22 pages of this for me?

    And what the is LLE? I know what MLE is but LLE? This has bothered me all off season.
    Same thing as the MLE but around 2 million instead of around 6 million and can only be used once every 2 years.

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    You can do it in English or Spanish.
    , Pop could do it in Russian and it would only be confusing until Stan Kelly reads out the line-ups before tip off.

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    I suppose we could debate whether or not he was the next best thing, but I think you ultimately have to look at the opportunity cost of paying him more than half the MLE.

    Spurs not only lost out on virtually every restricted FA left, but also a number of quality unrestricted FA that will probably command at least half the MLE.

    Again, it's just a tough pill to swallow that the Spurs had almost $6M to play with and came out with Roger Mason, who went from injury fill-in to de facto starting 2-guard for a championship-calibur team after one season of decent production.
    $6 million would have gotten us the same thing in Pietrus.

    We'll see how things shake out from here.

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    Spurs not only lost out on virtually every restricted FA left, but also a number of quality unrestricted FA that will probably command at least half the MLE.
    Who are these quality unrestricted guys? The only two I'd be bummed about us missing out on are Najera and Posey, but then you're assuming the Spurs haven't already made contact to find out if they're interested.

    And frankly, Najera was secondary to us finding a double figures guy at the 2guard, and Posey doesn't fit that role either.

    Don't tell me you're upset about scrubs like Delfino or Hayes. , Mason beat out Hayes for playing time with the Wizards, that tells you all you need to know about Jarvis.

    Kelenna's the only guy I'm truly bummed about missing out on, but again you don't know if he was even a target or if he was interested in coming to SA.

    Miami likes Wright and if nothing else he's an attractive S&T piece for them.

    I guess I just don't see all these options that you somehow think the Spurs left on the table.

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    Spurs went after a guy who was worth the full MLE (and then some). It didn't work out. So then they go after a diamond in the rough who could conceivably be a solid role player. I'm not excited, but I'm not going to spend the rest of this evening cutting myself.
    It is like re-signing Finley. This move allows for the Spurs to guarantee no slippage from last year. Nothing special, just the safe play.

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    It's a tough market. Spurs made a solid choice.
    That's your opinion and I have mine....Spurs went the safe route and got an unspectacular addition that does nothing to improve their chances to win a le.

    You may well be right that the Spurs would've seen all their offers matched and no other players sign...but we'll never know because the Spurs spent somewhere around $4M for the safe pick.

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    That's your opinion and I have mine....Spurs went the safe route and got an unspectacular addition that does nothing to improve their chances to win a le.

    You may well be right that the Spurs would've seen all their offers matched and no other players sign...but we'll never know because the Spurs spent somewhere around $4M for the safe pick.
    We'll know for most of them.

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    I'm not excited, but I'm not going to spend the rest of this evening cutting myself.
    After some of the reactions I've been seeing the past couple of days, this take is actually a bit of a refreshing change for me.

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    Spurs could have signed Smith to an offer sheet and spent the next 7 days losing out on Mason and the rest before Denver matched. Safe was smart in this case.

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    Oh and thanks Maggette for making a quick decision. Without that decision, this is the caliber of player the Spurs miss out on.

    Mason flew to San Antonio on July 2nd and apparently the Spurs told him he was one of their top options after Maggette. If it was Mason or Delfino (the only two players who got as far as talking contract with the Spurs outside of Maggette), I'm glad the Spurs picked Mason.
    well, that's good news, he's better than getting carlos d.

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    Roger Mason has went from a who? to a starter for the Spurs in 22 pages..

    Come on!!!! Bonner > Mason....

    You guys are fricking homers to the max...

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    I told you all Maggette wasn't coming here and he would sign with someone else immediately... Go search and you'll see.

    Maggette wasn't coming to San Antonio for Bonner money...

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    If the Spurs didn't jump on Mason, there was a very good possibility that they'd get nothing at all. A 7 day waiting period for a restricted free agent would have been a big gamble. I think they made the right choice. They wanted him last year, and he has improved significantly since then. If he plays D and breaks double figures in scoring (10.0001 ppg would be fine), he's a steal. Ronny F*#king Turiaf just got 4 yrs/17 mil!

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