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    OK, if that's the case why do we have garbage like Butler pushing that threshold?
    Because they dealt Nesterovic (a Pop fave) and had to find a replacement using the MLE back in '06.

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    Because they dealt Nesterovic (a Pop fave) and had to find a replacement using the MLE back in '06.
    ok, so a good GM signs butler and elson?

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    ok, so a good GM signs butler and elson?
    A good GM doesn't give Nazr Mohammed a long term contract.

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    A good GM doesn't give Nazr Mohammed a long term contract.
    correct, but a good GM goes with Udonis Haslem as a stop gap.

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    Spurs didn't want Scola, period. Pop wasn't upset that we screwed up with him, he was upset that we handed him over to a division rival. In hindsight, we screwed up. But if you look back, the Lakers didn't have Gasol, the Suns didn't have Shaq, and nobody knew how good NO would turn out to be. We also just won a championship, and other than the Suns series, we went through the West relatively easily. And FWIW, we could have signed Scola. This team has been over the lux cap, even if slightly, before. And we could have packaged Bonner and Udrih mid-season in a firesale (or even Scola if he wasn't working for us), and get back under the cap.

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    The Spurs traded Scola cuz they thought he wasn't going to sign. So they got something in return from Houston, but they got hosed cuz the next day Scola signed with Houston and came over here to play.

    The Spurs clearly ed this up. Clearly.

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    Rockets owner Les Alexander would like to tip in few million bucks. Thanks RC, well done. Enjoy the vacation house we bought you last summer? Oh, don't mention it. Love ya.

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    The Spurs traded Scola cuz they thought he wasn't going to sign. So they got something in return from Houston, but they got hosed cuz the next day Scola signed with Houston and came over here to play.

    The Spurs clearly ed this up. Clearly.

    They knew Scola was going to sign.

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    Rockets owner Les Alexander would like to tip in few million bucks. Thanks RC, well done. Enjoy the vacation house we bought you last summer? Oh, don't mention it. Love ya.
    Les would probably like to make it out of the first round one time this century.

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    The Spurs traded Scola cuz they thought he wasn't going to sign. So they got something in return from Houston, but they got hosed cuz the next day Scola signed with Houston and came over here to play.

    The Spurs clearly ed this up. Clearly.
    No way. Scola was ready to sign not just last year but even 2 seasons ago. The Spurs just didn't want him. I don't know if it was a money issue, a personal issue, or just bad talent assesment.

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    Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan View Post

    * Trade Beno at his all-time lowest value

    * Trade Scola to the Rockettes

    * Sign Bonner to a multi-year deal

    * Draft Splitter, who hoses us over for Tau

    * (speculative) Let's Barry walk, but is probably bringing back Finley


    Awesome. ing awesome.

    Don't forget passing on Josh Howard and instead trading Barbosa to Phoenix and signing Rasho.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Yes, everyone keep praising him for his secret move and silence...but more and more each day his popularity declined. I was wondering if Presti could do a better job...or maybe we should hire Bush instead? We might as well sending the whole team to try out in Iraq this time

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    So now you've gone to the 'other teams have sucky front offices so it's okay if ours sucks too' argument.

    Awesome.
    Every off season, our FO is competing against 29 other FOs. So when we target one guy and don't get him, it's extreme to use that as "proof" that our FO sucks. The plan for this year was to let a bunch of old-guy contracts expire, and to bring in youth and athleticism to replace them. It was a good plan. Had the unlikely Splitter change-of-heart not occurred, we'd be entering next year with Hill/Mason/Splitter and maybe Hairston/Gist-- that would've been an A+ off season... IMHO, Splitter was a great draft pick and losing him the way we did is no more the FOs fault than it would've been if he was hit by a car or struck by lightning. It was bad luck, not bad management...

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    No way. Scola was ready to sign not just last year but even 2 seasons ago. The Spurs just didn't want him. I don't know if it was a money issue, a personal issue, or just bad talent assesment.
    He wanted to much money.....was asking for a long term deal with 5 mil as a starting point...thats a bit high to me....when yao is back his numbers will go down big time.....I think his game would have not been a great complement to duncan.......Spurs like to play high low with thier bigs and scola cant shoot from outside 10ft

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    Every off season, our FO is competing against 29 other FOs. So when we target one guy and don't get him, it's extreme to use that as "proof" that our FO sucks. The plan for this year was to let a bunch of old-guy contracts expire, and to bring in youth and athleticism to replace them. It was a good plan. Had the unlikely Splitter change-of-heart not occurred, we'd be entering next year with Hill/Mason/Splitter and maybe Hairston/Gist-- that would've been an A+ off season... IMHO, Splitter was a great draft pick and losing him the way we did is no more the FOs fault than it would've been if he was hit by a car or struck by lightning. It was bad luck, not bad management...
    Somehow in a free agent market in which DeSagana Diop and Mickael Pietrus receive full MLE contracts (yes, 5 years, $33 mil or so), the Spurs are supposed to bring in a star with their MLE.

    And they tried this summer. But, of course, things had to fall just right in free agency for the Spurs to even have a real shot at Maggette.

    Fans want the team to get younger, but the moment the team starts signing younger players and jettisoning the older role players then Spurs fans piss their pants.

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    It's too easy to criticize in hindsight. In hindsight, Houston shouldn't have picked Ralph Sampson, because he had an injury shortened career. Boston shouldn't have picked Len Bias. Orlando shouldn't have tried to pair a young T-Mac with Grant Hill, a great star in his prime... all of those moves were great moves that just didn't have luck on their side.

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    Yeah, I figured people would add on. I didn't mean for my list to be exhaustive
    Everybody is wrong. These trades, marginal player acquisitions or draft strategies are only symptoms and markers of the real reason he will get a raise. Under his direction the Spurs have been under the Luxury Tax limit.

    The Spurs just got a windfall of almost $4,000,000 from the teams that were over the luxury tax limit and Buford will probably get a bonus out of that.

    If you made your employer almost $4,000,000 in excess profits, while keeping the team compe ive into the playoffs, wouldn't you deserve a raise as well.

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    As long as we're piling on...

    * Personally watched Marcus Williams practice in Arizona more than once and hand-picked him in the 2007 NBA draft. How's that workin' out?


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    Somehow in a free agent market in which DeSagana Diop and Mickael Pietrus receive full MLE contracts (yes, 5 years, $33 mil or so), the Spurs are supposed to bring in a star with their MLE.

    And they tried this summer. But, of course, things had to fall just right in free agency for the Spurs to even have a real shot at Maggette.

    Fans want the team to get younger, but the moment the team starts signing younger players and jettisoning the older role players then Spurs fans piss their pants.
    Exactly! If the Spurs got Samuel Dalembert this summer, some fans would complain that he's no Dwight Howard.

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    I dont know if you can blame RC for Splitter
    Splitter might have pulled a Fran Vasquez and lied is saying he was going to leave and latter backed out
    We dont know all the details

    we can do without barry, arent we too old?

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    What about the good stuff:

    1. Duncan has said many times that he seriously considered signing with Orlando in 2000. It was closer to his home, the beach community was similar to his environment growing up, Grant Hill was a great superstar entering his prime. The Spurs convinced him to stay, and the rest is history.

    2. Drafting Tony and Manu with low draft picks. name another backcourt with two all-stars chosen late first round and late second round....

    3. Getting the completely unheralded Bruce Bowen to sign for practically nothing, and using him wisely as he becomes one of the top 3 perimeter defenders in the entire league.

    Finding ways to make mediocre centers work within the system to help the Spurs win championships. Rasho played beside Garnett and didn't win a le, but when he played with Duncan, he did. Same for Nazr, Elson, Oberto...

    Signing Brent Barry, one of the most efficient and accurate shooters in the NBA.

    I'll stop there. You get what I'm saying.

    All brilliant moves.

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    2. Drafting Tony and Manu with low draft picks. name another backcourt with two all-stars chosen late first round and late second round....
    That was key. But, of course, the 4 les were simply due to drafting Duncan. Forget about actually filling out the rest of the roster and persuading him to re-sign and extend 3 times.

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    That was key. But, of course, the 4 les were simply due to drafting Duncan. Forget about actually filling out the rest of the roster and persuading him to re-sign and extend 3 times.

    Total luck I'm sure.

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    you fans complaining really are spoiled.

    y'all praise the FO when we win, but when we bow out early, y'all are quick to look for a person to blame.


    CHILL OUT.

    how many other teams in the league can say that they have, NOT ONE, but FOUR FREAKING NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS?? and that is that all but the '99 ring had buford at the helm of the FO.

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    The thought of RC putting together a team after TD is gone, scares me to death. We will be a .500 ball team for years.

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    Some of the people RC is responsible for finding

    Sarunas Marciulionis
    Mitch Richmond
    Tim Hardaway
    Latrell Spreewell
    Marc Jackson

    Thats what he did before he came to San Antonio

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