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yep, but the Spurs still aren't athletic.
Spurs fans wanted the team to get younger and more athletic...
yep, but the Spurs still aren't athletic.
That's how it seems but how often did Pop say during the stretch run and the playoffs that "we just need to figure out how to score"? and "the D isn't the problem"?
That's why this doesn't make sense. Mason can D-up, or so I've heard. So he was a good pick-up to GO WITH re-signing Brent. Without Brent, he's just filling that spot. And then we've got Finley who can't D OR score.
Only so many minutes to go around. When RM was signed the writing was on the wall that Barry had just been replaced.
How so?
The fact that people were expecting a Barry signing after RMJ was signed just kinda points out that people really don't know how the rotations work.
Spot on I think. The Spurs will hopefully be much improved on defense next year. Every signing has been for a player who is known for being a better to average defender.
Still it wouldn't hurt to have had Barry to throw in a game to open up the floor. Something he did for the Spurs better than anybody.
majority of the minutes are still going to parker, manu, duncan, bruce and oberto...
how the did anything help this?
Except that Barry was ALWAYS better with the offense than Finley.
The point is that w/ Mason, Best OPTION 1 is to bring ONE of the two old farts back and make sure you bring back the right one. I'm saying they let the best one go.
Option 2: Let BOTH old farts walk and sign ONE more FA who can score and D.
OPTION three: Manu, finley and Mason.
EDIT: for Option 2 I've obviously been rooting for Barnes b/c he's technically a long SF who can shoot and defend. And he plays hard. And if he isn't over that whole " I donwannaleavecalifornia" b.s. than a duck.
Manu and Bruce play about half of the swingman rotation minutes. Oberto plays less than half the game.
If re-signed, Finley is perfectly plausible as opening night starter.
In 02-03 Steve Smith was the opening night starter, Stephen Jackson got garbage minutes. It wasn't until injuries took their tolls on Smith and Manu that Pop was forced into Jackson as I recall.
And Finley has remained an iron man when it comes to his health and playing shape the last 2 years.
You could add that if it isn't Oberto getting the majority of minutes it will still be Kurt Thomas.
Finley will be blamed for Barry leaving even if signs with another team or retires. It's so obvious this is all Finley's fault.
The Spurs might talk about wanting to resign Finley but I don't see it happening. I think they sign someone else and give one of the spots to one of the rookies and call it a season.
Are people really going to be so upset if the Spurs decide to roll the dice and go with the rookies and RMJ? I thought thats what most people would want. Its a gamble, but its not like the Spurs won't be in contention with simply some able bodies around the big 3.
I'd rather go with the rookies than keep Finley. He's a wasted roster slot. Sorry Fin, you did us good, but it's a business.
But if Hill and that other guard we drafted totally tank in summer league, then o finley and we have 2008 season redux in the making, with the added bonus of udoka and his younger twin feuding for backup minutes.
The Spurs weren't able to persuade Corey Maggette into taking $20+ million (or more) less in guaranteed money than what he received from the Warriors, so Spurs fans are going to about everything.
Spurs might as well go with another younger swingman like Evans.
Makes you wonder how much cliffjumping is going to happen in the summer of 2010.
We need a swingman for sure, as long as he's not under ingsized i will be happy at this point. Anyone.
The one thing that people on this forum are still not mentioning (as far as I've read) is that while these moves are servicable, the FO seems to be operating on a premise that may not be true:
Bruce Bowen will be Bruce Bowen next season.
Don't get me wrong, he's my favorite player and I hope he kicks ing ass next season.....but he is getting up there...like really up there. And if he suffers a decline or gets hurt, then what? We field our two 6'5" guards together with Parker for a small ball festival for the rest of the season?
We need a legitimately sized swingman PRONTO.
2008 redux isn't as bad as people think. With meaningful production from Ian/Hill/RMJ we're a better team and really the only way this team is going to win is with a healthy Manu. Lets not forget, if Manu is healthy they're in the finals yet again almost certainly.
I won't be disappointed at all. I'm really hoping for Gist to make the team if they only pick one of them.
I won't even be disappointed if Finley is brought back as an end of bench guy. I believe the Spurs will be looking to replace him with Delfino or Evans or Barnes or whoever but Finley is probably the cheapest option out there and the Spurs know what they have in him. Plus, I think Finley signs for the minimum whereas Barry wouldn't have.
Rookies all the way!!!
Parkey -- Hill -- Vaughn
Mason -- Ginobili -- Hairston
Bowen -- Udoka -- Gist
Duncan -- Mahinmi -- Bonner
Thomas -- Oberto
Reserve one spot for a potential move later in the year. Goooooo Rooookiesssss!
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice...e_rockets.html
July 10, 2008
How the Rockets plan to use Brent Barry.
They see him as the first guy off the bench. They see him sometimes playing the point at the end of games. In those situations, the Rockets could have five scorers on the floor.
They like the fact that he has two championship rings. They like his leadership and believe he's absolutely perfect for Rick Adelman's system. They think he can play point or off-guard or small forward. Most of all, they see him as an elite shooter on a team that needs perimeter offense.
GM Daryl Morey's courtship of Brent Barry began last winter after he'd been released by Seattle. He sent him a video in which Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, etc., urged him to join the Rockets.
He decided to return to the Spurs, the team with which he was more comfortable. Morey resumed his pursuit of Barry as soon as free agency opened last week.
He flew to Southern California last week for a one-on-one meeting. Barry spoke with Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady and Rick Adelman among others. They told him this was a good situation, a really good team with really good guys.
The Rockets don't know if Brent Barry makes them a championship-caliber team. After all, he's 36 years old, and you never know when a player is going to begin to decline.
They simply believe he makes them better than they were yesterday, and that he could be another important piece in a complex puzzle.
He's a career 41-percent 3-point shooter. He was 43-percent last year.
The Rockets were 25th in the NBA last season with 34-percent 3-point shooting. Only one player, Steve Novak, shot better than Barry, and he's a defensive liability. At the moment, Adelman's eight-man rotation seems likely to have Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, Shane Battier, Luis Scola and Rafer Alston in the starting lineup and Barry, Aaron Brooks and Carl Landry as the top contributors off the bench.
As if.Only one player, Steve Novak, shot better than Barry, and he's a defensive liability.
It is hard to win with rookies, I think that is why people are apprehensive. That is where the experience factor comes in, rookies play their part, but to expect a bunch of "no-namers" to play important roles on a serious championship contender is asking a lot. We are at a cross roads of developing young potential and winning another chip. We will be relying heavily on the older players for sure and I think people are being unrealistic about expectations from Hill and Ian and others. There is a learning curve. I think we are still in contention, but the margin for error is slim-to-none and that is why people are ing. You can not blame fans for wanting to win and wanting big name players, it is part of the deal.
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