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Sam Schuler.
I believe you have him confused with a former GS exec who joined the Spurs later on (forgot his name).
Sam Schuler.
Yeah, that's him.
and the panic continues.
I can defend the sub-par free agencies. There wasn't much talent available that actually wanted to sign with the Spurs for what Holt would allow to spend. But what about the scouting? Manu and Tony are his only notable accomplishments to date. Splitter could arguably add to that if he ever comes over, but who else did he draft that had any value for us?
Are you seriously trying to say that Buford made all those decisions on his own? That would be a good reason for him to be fired, not consulting Pop or Holt or anyone else. Or, are you trying to add to the already thousands of Aggie jokes about their( Aggies) intelligence. I can almost guarantee you that Pop has more to do with any of the front office decisions than R.C. does. Buford just basically carries out the the concencus opinion. Should Pop be fired?
We'd all agree that there have been, what turned out to be bad moves and good moves. You want to blame them all on Buford. That's just not right.
These guys that make those decisions, thought they were making the right ones at that particular time and under those particular cir stances.
I hate how people on here act like the Spurs F.O. has never made a mistake. They have and it is o.k.. They have still done a fantastic job, but it is o.k. to criticize the bad moves, that is what keeps people honest. No one is perfect and hind sight is 20-20, but people always jump on others for criticizing the F.O., they do make mistakes.
Keep being in denial that the Lakers were the better team.
Thats a really short list if you list all the bad moves they have made. Or even worse non moves or lack of moves.
the truth is that since 2001 R.C. Buford made a lot of bad moves
How about not getting Sprewell when they had a chance. I believe they would have won more les with Duncan Robinson and Sprewell in the early 2000s. They should have gotten Spree. NY got Spree at low cost value. Its the non ballsy safe non moves that this fo always decides on.
And I actually thought I was the only tree hugger in here.Are you seriously trying to say that Buford made all those decisions on his own? That would be a good reason for him to be fired, not consulting Pop or Holt or anyone else. Or, are you trying to add to the already thousands of Aggie jokes about their( Aggies) intelligence. I can almost guarantee you that Pop has more to do with any of the front office decisions than R.C. does. Buford just basically carries out the the concencus opinion. Should Pop be fired?
We'd all agree that there have been, what turned out to be bad moves and good moves. You want to blame them all on Buford. That's just not right.
These guys that make those decisions, thought they were making the right ones at that particular time and under those particular cir stances.
He's been GM since 2001. He's made shrewd decisions that have led to 3 rings. He's also got a bunch of things wrong, AS HAS EVERY OTHER GM IN THE NBA. It's a very hit-and-miss job, let's face it.
This is very much the benefit of hindsight - we all wanted Beno gone at the time he was traded, no-one could've seen the $ plunge coming (the reason Splitter stayed in Europe), at the time the Bonner contract made sense (it's only since he busted in his second season here that we regret that one), plus your speculation. I'll concede that none of us will ever understand the Scola decision on basketball terms, but it wasn't a basketball decision - that one came from the ownership who didn't want to pay lux tax.
Give the man a break!
Do you want somebody who must to kill RC?
Wait, Manu signed with the Spurs in 2002, the truth is since manu´s sign, or the 2002
The real fact is: We have the Best PF of the History, with TD, we won with D-Rob and Without him, with Manu and Tony and Without both.
Then, the Spurs won 4 Rings tanks to Tim Duncan, not thanks to RC or Pop
The Bonner contract never made sense to me. Getting Bonner in the first place never made any sense to me.
agreed, and with some luck in the draft might i add....rc would have been fired already somewhere else....
No I don't think he made them on his own.Are you seriously trying to say that Buford made all those decisions on his own? That would be a good reason for him to be fired, not consulting Pop or Holt or anyone else. Or, are you trying to add to the already thousands of Aggie jokes about their( Aggies) intelligence. I can almost guarantee you that Pop has more to do with any of the front office decisions than R.C. does. Buford just basically carries out the the concencus opinion. Should Pop be fired?
We'd all agree that there have been, what turned out to be bad moves and good moves. You want to blame them all on Buford. That's just not right.
These guys that make those decisions, thought they were making the right ones at that particular time and under those particular cir stances.
But any time you call out Holt, and in particular Pop, as being in any way liable for some of our decisions around here, you get bashed down by the resident Pop lovers.
IMO Pop and Holt deserve just as much blame for our off-season failures as R.C., they just for whatever reason seem to be bullet proof around here (Pop moreso than Holt).
I understand getting a player... but when said player ing sucks, why do you give him a better longer deal?
...it's like teams are afraid to cut loose a box of .
why would we give him a raise? R.C.'s done a horrible job the past two offseasons. stupid idea, OP.
Not sure you can lay that on Buford. Actually Beno's gotten full MLE which is pretty damn good for a 28 pick. Issue is more player development and that is probably more on Beno than anyone else.
That was probably a combination of Pop saying "Get Butler's ass out of here" which he reportedly said and Holt saying get that paycheck out of here. Weren't many options. Again drafting Scola to begin with showed good talent evaluation.* Trade Scola to the Rockettes
Wonder how much Pop had to do with wanting Bonner. He is a minor bust for the salary but show me a team that's biggest bust is smaller than Bonner.* Sign Bonner to a multi-year deal
Unless Buford is missing his calling as a hedge fund manager he wouldn't know the Euro was going to go bananas and oil through the roof so that the Russian mafia could give away money to players.* Draft Splitter, who hoses us over for Tau
If they are sinking thatg much in Mason keeping Barry is redundant and there are bigger needs. If the money nets Najera or scares teams away from making a Thomas offer because they know Spurs are comfortably under the luxury tax ceiling thern it's not a bad deal. There are bigger needs than Barry with the money Spurs have left to spend.* (speculative) Let's Barry walk, but is probably bringing back Finley
Given draft position Spurs have done pretty well with Splitter, Beno, Mahinmi, Scola, Sanikidze, Williams as their choices over the past few years. Given draft position/talent they are in the top eschelon.Awesome. ing awesome.
This year will be interesitng. Interview with Mason he said Pop didn't see him work out so let's lay that pick squarely on RC's shoulders. let's see how Hill, Mason, Gist pan out compared to the ST favorites like Chalmers, Douglas-Roberts, Walker.
Last edited by picnroll; 07-11-2008 at 10:00 AM.
chalmers and hill worked out together in sa
so hill outplyaed chalmers
I know. I posed this question at 1:00 PM yesterday and it was answered in the video interview by Hill himself posted later that day. To me that was key because as I re-call there were comments to the effect that it wasn't even close the disparity of how well Hill did against the guys he was working out against. If he was containing Chalmers and Taylor on defense and doing well against Chalmers when he was on offense he's going to be making some pundits here look pretty silly.
That's what you would hope, but some players simply don't do workouts very well. I really hope it's the case that he was just a better player.
True but Chalmers is a good one on one defender. If Chalmers was having trouble handling HillThat's what you would hope, but some players simply don't do workouts very well. I really hope it's the case that he was just a better player.
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