Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 51 to 75 of 123
  1. #51
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Which is plenty. Those last spots will be minimum contracts.

  2. #52
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Well, I guess it would be a matter of other teams being able to outspend us again. And if we do lose KT, I guess adding Najera for some help would become a reasonable option.
    That would spell absolute disaster for the Spurs. Ian would be required to play an absurd amount of minutes and that would also mean that we would have to pick up someone like Kwame Brown as well, which I am not opposed to even if we sign Kurt.

  3. #53
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Brown is horrible. No way he is ever signed here.

  4. #54
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Which is plenty. Those last spots will be minimum contracts.
    By force they will, but that rules out the possibility of getting any insurance at the 4/5 position or any other FA available. I hope it comes to that though, because that means we have KT back.

  5. #55
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    29,455
    Najera would make me feel mildly better about the offseason and direction this team is going. But why chuck so much money at Mason if you're expecting to want a Najera?

  6. #56
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Brown is horrible. No way he is ever signed here.
    He can still defend, he is 7'0. He would be better than Bonner. He is just insurance, he is still a serviceable backup imo.

  7. #57
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Truth be told, if we are talking about a player (Najera, Barnes...) he is probably not coming. We have not even been close on anything (draft, FA). I am just nervous that KT is a UFA, thats all.

  8. #58
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    By force they will, but that rules out the possibility of getting any insurance at the 4/5 position or any other FA available. I hope it comes to that though, because that means we have KT back.
    I'm not sure what your point is, but the fact of the matter is that the Spurs are not in LT territory nor will they be regardless of what kind of an offer KT gets. Its just not a danger.

  9. #59
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Najera would make me feel mildly better about the offseason and direction this team is going. But why chuck so much money at Mason if you're expecting to want a Najera?
    Allow me to be captain obvious for a minute.

    They wanted Mason more than they wanted Najera.

  10. #60
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    He can still defend, he is 7'0. He would be better than Bonner. He is just insurance, he is still a serviceable backup imo.
    He's not a good defender. He's got size, thats for sure, but the Spurs don't need a randomly bad 7 footer. Brown won't be a Spur. Ever.

  11. #61
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Truth be told, if we are talking about a player (Najera, Barnes...) he is probably not coming. We have not even been close on anything (draft, FA). I am just nervous that KT is a UFA, thats all.
    Mason was talked about as a possible signing before he signed here.

  12. #62
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    29,455
    Allow me to be captain obvious for a minute.

    They wanted Mason more than they wanted Najera.
    Obviously. But the amount to Mason looks again like overpaying. He's better than Bonner but this is again a Bonner contract.

  13. #63
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    I'm not sure what your point is, but the fact of the matter is that the Spurs are not in LT territory nor will they be regardless of what kind of an offer KT gets. Its just not a danger.
    How can you say they are not in luxury tax territory? They are not in terrible danger but still...

    If Kurt gets a sizable offer it will put the Spurs in a situation. If he even gives them a chance to match...

  14. #64
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Obviously. But the amount to Mason looks again like overpaying. He's better than Bonner but this is again a Bonner contract.
    Its overpaying in a because its a 3 year deal amount with a 2 year length. But its not a massive overpay by any means. I know you're not a fan of Mason, but he's a better defender than Barry and put up better stats than him last year. I don't see an issue at all with the signing.

    Bonner's contract is not a problem at all either. The only reason people get worked up about it is because of Scola.

  15. #65
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    How can you say they are not in luxury tax territory? They are not in terrible danger but still...

    If Kurt gets a sizable offer it will put the Spurs in a situation. If he even gives them a chance to match...
    Unless the Clippers give Kurt Thomas an offer for more than 7 million per the Spurs will not be in danger of the Luxury Tax. Its really simple.

  16. #66
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    My point was that if Kurt gets a nice full MLE offer and the Spurs do get to beat it, the last 4 roster spots will have to be the minimum. Which means they can not get any other free agent for the 2 exceptions they have because they can not offer enough and if they did use the full exceptions it puts us close to the luxury tax with one spot to fill...

    I never said Kwame was a good defender, but he is 25, big and can defend a little, I would not be upset to see him. Especially if Tim and Pop could somehow help him..

  17. #67
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    I am just nervous that KT is a UFA, thats all.
    Damn, bro, were you a Spurs fan back when Duncan was an unrestricted free agent? That was nerve wracking. I wouldn't lose sleep worrying that Thomas is going to leave. Maybe if there was one credible report of a team willing to give him a lot of money ... but not when two teams looking to save money (the Lakers and Heat) are linked to him.

    If by some fluke Thomas isn't re-signed, the Spurs will probably ink Horry or an under the radar big and lean more on the other bigs already under contract. It wouldn't be fun to lose Thomas but if some team wants to give him a ridiculous contract, oh well, the Spurs will survive.

  18. #68
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    11 million under the tax as of now...
    KT for 6 mil
    If we use the two exceptions: 4 mil
    2 spots left 1 million

    Probably will not happen, but it is not a complete stretch or as simple as you make it out to be imo...

  19. #69
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    It is because the Spurs aren't going to use both exceptions.

  20. #70
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Damn, bro, were you a Spurs fan back when Duncan was an unrestricted free agent? That was nerve wracking. I wouldn't lose sleep worrying that Thomas is going to leave. Maybe if there was one credible report of a team willing to give him a lot of money ... but not when two teams looking to save money (the Lakers and Heat) are linked to him.

    If by some fluke Thomas isn't re-signed, the Spurs will probably ink Horry or an under the radar big and lean more on the other bigs already under contract. It wouldn't be fun to lose Thomas but if some team wants to give him a ridiculous contract, oh well, the Spurs will survive.
    This is not Duncan, but a major piece if we really want to contend. I do not know of any under the radar bigs and the thought of relying on Horry, Oberto, Ian and Bonner does not thrill me to death. The Spurs will survive if KT leaves, but their chances of really competing for a le become a little slimmer...You are telling me you are not at all concerned with the situation?

  21. #71
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    It is because the Spurs aren't going to use both exceptions.
    I agree, but my point was that the reason why was being forced upon them.

  22. #72
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    11 million under the tax as of now...
    KT for 6 mil
    If we use the two exceptions: 4 mil
    2 spots left 1 million

    Probably will not happen, but it is not a complete stretch or as simple as you make it out to be imo...
    Counting Mason and Hill, the Spurs are ~$11.6M under the lux tax threshold. The Spurs are going to use either the rest of their MLE, their LLE or their trade exception -- each of which are about $1.9M. The rest will be minimum players. That leaves a lot of damn money to throw at Thomas.

    The Spurs have room for one more notable player. After that it's going to be players for the minimum. And if the Spurs pick Finley to be that "notable player", he might take the minimum. So the Spurs would have even more money to spend.

  23. #73
    Bruce Almighty Bruno's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    19,194
    Najera could really help Spurs. I don't think Spurs have enough money left to sign him. If Spurs get him, Bonner will be in the doghouse or traded.

    Diawara isn't a very good or talented player but he is a hard worker. If Spurs sign him, it could means that they aren't sold on Udoka as Bruce Bowen "successor". In French newspaper, Dallas and SA are the two teams that are said to be interested in him.

  24. #74
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    DPG is simply new at this.

  25. #75
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    It is because the Spurs aren't going to use both exceptions.
    Exactly. The roster is deep enough as it is with player who will expect minutes. There's no room to keep adding non-minimum players to the roster. Thomas, Finley (or Finley replacement) and minimum contracts.

    Offseason over.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •