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    They have quite a few players at the position and the Spurs could offer them more cap relief in the form of the trade exception...Not saying that they would, but I would love that scenario and it is not unreasonable...It would open up more time for Yi and Brook Lopez and Sean Williams and Ryan Anderson...
    What makes you think they will play Sean Williams or Ryan Anderson?

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    Why would you want the guy who Roger Mason, Jr. beat out for a rotation spot in Washington when we signed Roger Mason, Jr.?
    Talent or lack of is not always the reason why someone gets beat out of a rotation. All kinds of factors and for all we know it was something unrelated to court production altogether. I think the guy would be a good talent for 1.9mil.

    I bet we end up getting way less with the LLE.

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    If they love him why did they draft 2 players that play the exact same position and trade for a guy like Yi who can play the same position? They are obviously not in love with one of their bigs: Boone or Williams and I will take either.

    Why do you have to take a bad contract? You could do Bonner for Boone and Marcus Williams who both have 1 year left on their contracts.

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    What makes you think they will play Sean Williams or Ryan Anderson?
    Sean Williams started like 31 games last year...

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    A. so you need to take a bad contract from them

    B. they will not trade Boone, they love him
    If you use the Beno trade exception, we do not have to take on any contract at all...

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    Jesus Christ I'm laughing at you guys thinking they'll just give players away for no good reason. As if Bonner or better yet thin air would be a better fit on their team.

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    Boone = 25 mins per game

    Williams = 18 minutes per game

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    Jesus Christ I'm laughing at you guys thinking they'll just give players away for no good reason. As if Bonner or better yet thin air would be a better fit on their team.
    Ever heard of a logjam? Or better yet, a future plan? Clearing cap space? I guess Memphis never heard from you....

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    Ever heard of a logjam? Or better yet, a future plan? Clearing cap space? I guess Memphis never heard from you....
    So because one team made a massive cap move its a regular thing?

    If you got some talent I suspect they'll attempt to move it for some actual value. Memphis didn't have many options beyond absorbing another large contract which doesn't fit in with their rebuilding plans. Thats not the case here. They could easily trade small salary for small salary and maybe address a few things. No way they just give up for nothing right off the bat simply because they have too many bigs and most teams don't mind the extra baggage when it comes to bigs.

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    Ever heard of a logjam? Or better yet, a future plan? Clearing cap space? I guess Memphis never heard from you....
    Ever heard of using tradeable assets for players they can actually use in return?

    Typical summer around here. Newbs to the board floating trade ideas of sending our 11th and 12th guys on the bench out and getting a top 6-7 rotation player from another team.

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    So because one team made a massive cap move its a regular thing?

    If you got some talent I suspect they'll attempt to move it for some actual value. Memphis didn't have many options beyond absorbing another large contract which doesn't fit in with their rebuilding plans. Thats not the case here. They could easily trade small salary for small salary and maybe address a few things. No way they just give up for nothing right off the bat simply because they have too many bigs and most teams don't mind the extra baggage when it comes to bigs.

    That is exactly the case here... they are rebuilding and part of the rebuilding plan is to get as much cap space for 2010 as possible. That is why they traded Jason Kidd. That is why they traded Richard Jefferson. That is why they are not taking on long, expensive contracts. That is why they might be interested in expiring contracts and veterans at the same time.

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    Ever heard of using tradeable assets for players they can actually use in return?

    Typical summer around here. Newbs to the board floating trade ideas of sending our 11th and 12th guys on the bench out and getting a top 6-7 rotation player from another team.
    I love how she just compared this theory to a guy who made 10-20 mil a year too.

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    Yes, expiring contracts are what is hot right now in the NBA. Like it or not, as a basketball fan, sometimes do not want just talent in return, sometimes expiring contracts or trade exceptions are enough. Not saying NJ would do all of this, but it is more than plausible.

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    That is exactly the case here... they are rebuilding and part of the rebuilding plan is to get as much cap space for 2010 as possible. That is why they traded Jason Kidd. That is why they traded Richard Jefferson. That is why they are not taking on long, expensive contracts. That is why they might be interested in expiring contracts and veterans at the same time.
    They don't need to give away ok. We aren't talking about contracts that hard to move here. They could move these guys for picks real easy. Again just so you understand. We aren't talking about large contracts that hard to move. They can weigh offers for a year or so and see what shakes out. No need to give marketable talent away for nothing. You're not going to make any significant difference in cap space by handing talent out for nothing.

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    Ever heard of using tradeable assets for players they can actually use in return?

    Typical summer around here. Newbs to the board floating trade ideas of sending our 11th and 12th guys on the bench out and getting a top 6-7 rotation player from another team.
    Newbs?? What are you a halo nerd? Expiring contracts do = tradeable assets. So by your theory, if Bonner gets playing time this year as an 8th man (which could happen) than he would be justified in a trade? He is the same player, sometimes players do not play because of cir stances not talent. In that case anyone who is an 11th or 12th man on a roster, can never fit in play on another team..

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    Newbs?? What are you a halo nerd? Expiring contracts do = tradeable assets. So by your theory, if Bonner gets playing time this year as an 8th man (which could happen) than he would be justified in a trade? He is the same player, sometimes players do not play because of cir stances not talent. In that case anyone who is an 11th or 12th man on a roster, can never fit in play on another team..
    Give me an example of the last time up and coming talent with a contract worth less then 4 million was moved for nothing but cap space or a 12th man with an expiring contract.

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    They don't need to give away ok. We aren't talking about contracts that hard to move here. They could move these guys for picks real easy. Again just so you understand. We aren't talking about large contracts that hard to move. They can weigh offers for a year or so and see what shakes out. No need to give marketable talent away for nothing. You're not going to make any significant difference in cap space by handing talent out for nothing.
    I understand what you are saying, the fact that they are smaller contracts does not matter. Every little bit helps with regards to cap space. Especially if you have stockpiled a lot of young players in one position.

    How do teams like the Spurs get players in trades like KT for essentially Elson then?

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    Delonte West last year

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    Given it was in combination with other people involved, so the the relief along with the draft picks was greater, he was still young and essentially traded for picks and relief. He is about the same level as Boone or Williams with regards to talent level...

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    Ever heard of using tradeable assets for players they can actually use in return?

    Typical summer around here. Newbs to the board floating trade ideas of sending our 11th and 12th guys on the bench out and getting a top 6-7 rotation player from another team.
    Who would have thought that Memphis would have traded Gasol for chump change? Why did Orlando do a sign-and-trade for Lewis last year, when they could have just signed him straight up? Who would have thought that Presti could then parlay that into 3 1st round picks?

    There's a very small chance that the Spurs will be able to work some trade, but the possibility is always there. And that's what the off-season on a message board is all about.

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    If they love him why did they draft 2 players that play the exact same position and trade for a guy like Yi who can play the same position? They are obviously not in love with one of their bigs: Boone or Williams and I will take either.

    Why do you have to take a bad contract? You could do Bonner for Boone and Marcus Williams who both have 1 year left on their contracts.
    you are crazy? why that the nets will trade Boone + Marcus williams for Bonner?? they are both talanted young guys that doesn't hurt you in the cap spece

    If you use the Beno trade exception, we do not have to take on any contract at all...
    why for them to give up Boone for nothing, Boone doesn't hurt there 2010 plan

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    I understand what you are saying, the fact that they are smaller contracts does not matter. Every little bit helps with regards to cap space. Especially if you have stockpiled a lot of young players in one position.

    How do teams like the Spurs get players in trades like KT for essentially Elson then?
    KT didn't have a small contract. It was what 8mil?

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    Delonte West last year
    He wasn't moved straight up. They needed him to move Wally's big contract.

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    Still gave up young talent in a package...for no players in return

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