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    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
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    As long as we add quality support players to our big 3, we will contend for les. This year we are going to add:

    George Hill
    Roger Mason Jr.
    Ian Mahinmi
    (1 more ?)

    If these 4 guys and the rest of our bench can give us solid Defense and about 30 points collectively, we will be fine. Udoka and Thomas will be better after having some time in our system.

    As for RC as a GM, I'm ok with what he's done. Every year he is stuck picking late in the draft and is expected to do wonders. Sure, he's missed a few good players in the draft and there are some really questionable moves (Scola, Barry) but Manu and Tony certainly trump the bad stuff.

    He was able to trade Brent for Kurt Thomas AND get Brent back for a playoff push. , he was able to get Brent to sign with us in the first place.

    All the people he gets slammed for getting have rings and the ones he didn't dont.

    Josh Howard: No Rings
    Barbosa: No Rings
    Scola: No Rings

    Rasho, Finley, Elson, Butler, Udrih, Barry : All of them have Rings.

    Horry was a great pick up too. Why no credit for that ? Lakers fans wanted him gone after 2003 just like Spurs fans want him gone now.

    The only bigger name exceptions are Hedo, Terry Porter, Derek Anderson, Stoudamire and Nick Van Exel. Nick the Sick is Pop's fault for continuing to play him when he obviously sucked out loud.

    No one in this forum has put as much time into scouting and evaluating potential players as our FO has. Geesh, give the guy a break. We win f'ing les here every other year it seems.

    I'll remember this year as the year we lost against a ty Lakers team and got by a really talented Hornets team. I expected us to blow out the Suns and even though we won the series 4-1, the games were pretty close. The Suns sucked and I thought we would blow them out. When we didn't and Manu was limping around, I thought the Hornets really had us in a bad spot. It's remarkable that we beat them on their floor in a game 7.

    Manu's injury was too much to overcome against the Lakers. And all the talk about Bynum. If Manu's healthy, Bynum is a non-factor and is probably fouling out of games.
    Gasol is a pussy and I have no concern with us facing the Lakers next year.

    Our biggest headache will come from the Hornets, Jazz and MAYBE the Rockets. The Rockets are big flirts who crap out in the 1st round and can't keep healthy. Maybe they should limit McGrady and Yao's minutes .
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    why would we give him a raise? R.C.'s done a horrible job the past two offseasons. stupid idea, OP.
    are you understanding?

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    I understand getting a player... but when said player ing sucks, why do you give him a better longer deal?

    ...it's like teams are afraid to cut loose a box of .
    how can you expect every player on our roster to be superstars or super role players? how can you expect everyone that we sign will be superstars or super role players? how can you expect us to be perfect in an imperfect world?

    3 million a year REALLY isnt that big of a deal. if every ing spurs move was a home run that lead to a guaranteed championship every year, no one would be watching.

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    Thats a really short list if you list all the bad moves they have made. Or even worse non moves or lack of moves.
    Spurs fans are ing stupid.

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    rascal wants vc on the spurs

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    Thats a really short list if you list all the bad moves they have made. Or even worse non moves or lack of moves.
    The problem is you criticize certain moves simply based on what you think about the player, rather than on the unchangeable cir stances. For example, right now the maximum the Spurs can offer any free agent is about 2 mil/year. So I'm sure if they sign a serviceable player in the next week, you will immediately say, "that guy sucks." And naturally, at that price, they aren't going to get an all-star, but if he's worth 2mil/yr or has the potential to be a 3mil/year player then it's a good move. I think you confuse "good move" with "exciting sexy glamorous move." You're like a kid whose parents won't buy him an airplane and a baby elephant for his 10th birthday that concludes, "I have terrible parents."

    The FO of the Spurs exists in reality, not in the realm of sports fantasy, where people come up with trades like "Bonner, Oberto, 1st rd pick + cash for Dwight Howard". There's a huge difference between wanting Maggette and getting Maggette. It's like wanting to date Jessica Alba or Uma Thurman. There's a lot of compe ion and lots of extenuating cir stances. I don't think you take that into account.

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    How about not getting Sprewell when they had a chance. I believe they would have won more les with Duncan Robinson and Sprewell in the early 2000s. They should have gotten Spree. NY got Spree at low cost value. Its the non ballsy safe non moves that this fo always decides on.
    Our '98 deal for Spree fell apart when he choked the coach. Of course the Spurs couldn't make that same Perdue/Elliott for Spree deal when Sprewell was reinstated in 99 due to Sean's health. The Spurs knew there was no way he'd pass a physical with that failing kidney.

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    like jamstone posted spurs have 3 stars
    trying to add a 4 star almost is impossible
    players have egos and want to contribute
    that is why spurs get role players instead

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    why would we give him a raise? R.C.'s done a horrible job the past two offseasons. stupid idea, OP.
    You suck at reading comprehension.

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    Don't forget passing on Josh Howard and instead trading Barbosa to Phoenix and signing Rasho.
    It hurt to read those lines. How? Why? Surely you jest.

    Sadly I know it all really did happen.

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    I think I found where the whiners are in our "nation of whiners".

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    I'd love to know who should replace them right now.

    All i see is ing and no answers. As per spurstalk usual.

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    The Spurs are doing all they can with the limited flexibility they have.

    The real problem was letting Scola go for nothing and not being able to bring Splitter over. Also, it appears Udrih has really blossomed as a PG.....he would have been a better option at backup PG than Jacque Vaughan. Those three players would have kept the Spurs at the top of the heap. Now, there really isn't much they can do other than sign some decent role players with the MLE and get some late 1st rounders in the draft and pray they pan out.

    It's incredibly impossible to keep a championship core going for much longer than 3-4 years. The Spurs have pretty much stayed in contention for a decade now, that's an incredible feat. The ride must come to an end at some point though, and I think next season we will begin to see that.

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    I'd love to know who should replace them right now.

    All i see is ing and no answers. As per spurstalk usual.
    I'd take either Presti or Pritchard over Buford.

    All I see is you defending the front office like one of them is your daddy. As per Tpark usual.

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    I see you throwing the front office under the bus as usually Aggie Hoopsfan

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    I'd take Paul Allen, his $40 billion or so and his willingness to s out money for picks and ultimately likely to sign and retain players regardles of the luxury tax over Holt.

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    I'd take Paul Allen, his $40 billion or so and his willingness to s out money for picks and ultimately likely to sign and retain players regardles of the luxury tax over Holt.
    when did they win a le

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    when did they win a le
    When they got Tim Duncan in the draft.

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    Buford has been Ok with what holt has given him to work with....These other guys for the Spurs Fo office have owners willing to s out big time to make a better team.....Holt will not.....and never will.......so that ties his hands a bit......but I would have liked to see us get more athletic.....thats an area we are lacking and something the FO seems to think is unimportant

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    Holt!! he so miser

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    When they got Tim Duncan in the draft.
    phil jackson also has never won anything withou t an mvp canidate either

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    All the young players the Spurs have (Ian, Hill, Gist and Hairston) are athletic.

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    Our front office has done a spectacular job. Have they made mistakes? Of course. But the good far outweighs the bad. AggieHoopsFan is a newb...

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    I'd take Paul Allen, his $40 billion or so and his willingness to s out money for picks and ultimately likely to sign and retain players regardles of the luxury tax over Holt.
    They sucked so long, pretty much all they are going to have are rookie contracts after next season.

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    I'd take either Presti or Pritchard over Buford.
    I'd have to see each one work under the same conditions as Buford has first.

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