When the Spurs were after Barnes a few years back it was because they like his D. He's a very scrappy defender and would probably do well here.
Shoot them with what? Our shooters are gone.....and if you trade 3s for thier twos they will win by Stats......and they will go big to hurt Duncan and clog the lane for tony.......This of coarse will not be a normal line up but we will see it next year come playoff time.
We had a similar player to him 2yrs ago...JAMES WHITE.....Barnes not a fit......and like I said, Im not talking starter here....just someone who can defend players that cause matchup problems......a 9-10th man....for a year or two
Niether Udoka nor Mason can play the 4 in any instance...Barnes can. And George won't give the team the offense you see them possibly lacking, he isn't all that good at moving the ball because he is a spot up shooter/put-back player who occasionally gets some easy drive to the basket when he keeps his feet moving.
If guys like Hill and Mason, and possibly a SF like Barnes, can provide relief while 2 of the big 3 rest so the burden doesn't fall on Manu I think the team is in very good shape.
@ thinking James White and Matt Barnes are similar.
Okay, I'm not going to argue with you because it's too hard to read your posts with all the misspellings, misinformation and lack of punctuation.
I'm just telling you that the Spurs liked him enough to bring him here for workouts every time he was free agent and wanted him for his D. I'm not saying he can guard the 4 spot. I'm just saying that if you are signing a 4th/5th swingman, Barnes is better than George.
You still have Manu, Bown (who seems to be developing a mid-range games in this late stage of his career), and Tony and the team added Mason and Hill who both have good range; I can also see Udoka getting more comfortable in the system in his second full season under Pop and in-turn developing more consistency in his jumper, especially from behind the arc.
Again, I don't see a scenario where the Suns go monstrously BIG because it makes the team slow and limited to what they can do offensively. Forget clogging the lane for Duncan, they'll clog the lane for each other and get into foul trouble in the process.
I will take a 6-8 240lb george at the 4 than a 6-6 maybe...220lb barnes any day......George played 4 for several year in La and this year with Dallas.....He is not a post player......and yes I dont think he is a scorer......only in the demented world of DON NELSON is Barnes a PF just like he tried to make Dirk a SG at first when he was drafted....Just like he made Jefferson a C......And 2yrs ago Steve Jackson a PF.........And Barnes only avg 6ppg......so I dont see the diff. Plus when the spurs go small that all they need is for Dev to stand and pass into duncan and be ready to shoot the corner 3 just like bowen. All of this is moot because we wont get either one.......If we are wise...we will look to trade for Krystic who the spurs like yrs ago and wanted to draft....he would give us D and scoring and is a good passer and has a Hight Iq ohhh and he is a true 7 ftr
They drafted Lopez to play against the spurs...to chase Tim and keep shaq rested and out of foul trouble......and remember both Amare and Lopez can play on the wings......they will outrebound us like LA DID.......Whach next year when La has Bynum, Gasol and Odom starting and on the floor bunches together......they will kill us on the glass......and rumor has it when Kobe rests Odom will move to SG and Radmonavic will play the 3......that means they will have 4 guys bigger than 6-10 all about 240lbs on the floor at the same time........how will we match up? Portland will have Odom at C....Aldridge at pf...Outlaw at sf...How will we match up? We have all post players or all perimeter players no one who can do both........Im tellyou if we dont get bigger at the 3-4 we are gonna struggle next season
We bring in lots of guys for work outs means little......Sometimes it to put out misimformation........The more I read what you say the more it sounds like you have never seen matt barnes play........Not all player are good in all systems...
His point total dipped a bit from last year, but I'll take Barnes and the fluidity he can bring to an offense that just lost one of it's biggest ball-movers and who can play the 3 or 4 in small ball which Pop HIMSELF likes to run as well....a demented man with a few rings to boot. Matt's atheleticism can only complement the direction the Spurs are trying to head in, and again, he can actually create his on shot unlike DG.
If the Spurs go small, why would George be passing into Duncan if he's playing PF? Shouldn't he be somewhere around the block as well?
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So which one is it? Will Amare and Lopez seemingly BOTH play the wings and give Shaq the paint, or will they give Shaq a rest to keep him out of foul trouble....they can't have it both ways right?
Umm.. okay. The Spurs brought him in and he turned down their offer. That means they wanted him - they didn't bring him in for "misimformation." I thought as a Spurs fan you would know that. And I've only seen all Matt Barnes' college games and about 1/3 of his NBA games, but you are right. My bad.
Have any of your clients been brought in for work-outs just so the teams can put out misinformation?
BTW, what benefit could "misinformation" be when working out FAs? I could see teams doing that with rookies before the draft to throw other teams off, but I'm not sure I see the sense in it when courting FAs.
Does anyone think this guy is actually an agent? He doesn't know anything about the CBA, contracts or free agency. He thinks AI started at PG and JR Smith starting at SG for the Nuggets last year. He thinks you can just keep renouncing players to gain cap room and exceptions. And he types like he's 12.
But he lives in a 75,000 sq. ft. mansion. How could he do that if he wasn't an agent?
Does anyone think this guy is actually an agent? He doesn't know anything about the CBA, contracts or free agency. He thinks AI started at PG and JR Smith starting at SG for the Nuggets last year. He thinks you can just keep renouncing players to gain cap room and exceptions. And he types like he's 12.
I'm waiting for his le to change to "agent". Then I'll believe he really is one.
There's no way Barnes could ever play the 4 position, except occasionally in Nellie's system when 2-4 are interchangeable, and even then I have my doubts.
Also, George is a loser. Barnes has brief flashes of intensity where he is quite productive. George, on the other hand, seems like he's just trying to collect a paycheck at this point. I'd much rather roll the dice on Barnes (assuming he would even consider coming to play here, which is a longshot) then a known quan y like Devean George. He played for LA and Dallas - that is enough for me to not want him anywhere near our team.
Man, the hits just keep coming.
Yup, that's our gaping hole!
We were blown out several times by the Jazz and they threw guys like Harpring to bang up our little defenders.
The Lakers and the Hornets just lobed up assists that would be picked up by their centers for an easy dunk.
The Suns would post up Diaw and he would kill us consistently.
We don't have anyone but Gist!?
Of course Barnes is a bad shooter....he played in Nellie's run and chuck system....where every shot is a good shot, no matter the ridiculous nature of the shot. With Chip and Pop having a more structured system, I believe Barnes will be a lot more efficient shooting the ball. He will get more set shots that is for sure, thanks to Duncan, Manu, and Parker.
i feel all kinds of dumb after reading some of the "agent's" observations in this thread. not only does he not watch basketball, it's apparent he has no idea about b-ball strategy. amare would be horrendous at the SF spot.
i want barnes!!! too
I'm repeating myself, but young and (somewhat) raw is the aim for bench positions 13, 14, and 15. I'm assuming Hairston, which may prove foolish, so really we're talking about guys 14 and 15.
In my estimation, the Spurs best approach is to wait until after summer league, perhaps until even later in the summer, until there is a free agent or two sitting without a contract and other team roster's are more or less in place. At that point the Spurs might be able to get someone cheap, like they did with Udoka, or have a better idea what players are gettable via trade exception or trade. Barnes could be one of these guys, and if he's without a contract the Spurs would have leverage for a cheap one or two year offer. Increasingly, Azubuike looks like a candidate for this sort of thing. Depending on what Gallinari does in summer league, Chandler and/or Balkman could be half way out the door in NY. Blah, blah, blah...
The point is that the Spurs are best served to wait a few weeks before signing anyone not named Kurt Thomas--which is certainly the next shoe to drop.
Matt Barnes but i dont like them both
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