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He was the go to guy at his school and he had some of the highest percentages in the country.... I think that had to be a factor on this
I've been searching around different sites for info on George Hill, and found a few that were very interesting. The first is from a website by Ken Pomeroy, a statistician, and an author of Basketball Prospectus. Before the draft, Pomeroy's statistical method declared Hill the best offensive player in all of college basketball, using a formula that is slightly less comprehensible to me than the defensive scheme of the Denver Nuggets and the popularity of David Hasselhoff, which supposedly takes into account team pace, strength of opponent, and a million or so other factors. I'm just putting it out there. I'll let you do your own research if you are so inclined. The second site is an article from Basketball Prospectus, and the third is from SI.com. All were from before the draft.
http://www.kenpom.com/leaders.php?c=ORtg
2008 National Leaders: Offensive Rating
At least 28% of possessions used
1 George Hill, IUPUI 125.4 (28.8) 6-2 180 Jr
2 Stephen Curry, Davidson 121.2 (31.8) 6-2 185 So
3 Ryan Anderson, California 121.1 (28.4) 6-10 235 So
4 Kyle Landry, Northern Arizona 120.4 (30.3) 6-9 205 Sr
5 Michael Beasley, Kansas St. 119.8 (33.5) 6-9 235 Fr
6 Arizona Reid, High Point 118.3 (31.8) 6-5 205 Sr
7 Reggie Williams, Virginia Military Inst 117.4 (30.9) 6-6 195 Sr
8 Bo McCalebb, New Orleans 117.0 (32.5) 6-0 180 Sr
9 Courtney Lee, Western Kentucky 116.9 (30.5) 6-5 200 Sr
10 Lester Hudson, Tennessee Martin 116.2 (32.4) 6-3 190 Jr
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http://basketballprospectus.com/arti...?articleid=209
I've been remiss in saluting IUPUI guard George Hill's performance this season. Hill was awesome in 2006, then effectively missed all of last season after breaking his foot, then was awesome again this season as a redshirt junior. IUPUI leads the land in eFG%, and Hill himself is making 59% of his twos and 46% of his threes. He's also made 83% of his 215 free throw attempts. Most impressively, he's 6'2" and his team's best defensive rebounder. It will be worth your while to check out the Summit finale to see what Hill can do.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...cts/index.html
George Hill (6-2 Jr., PG, IUPUI): Undersized combo guards can be giant killers in the NCAA tournament but on draft day they're a dime a dozen. Hill's standout trait is his ability to create. He used 28.8 of his team's possessions and shot 58 percent on two-pointers and 45 percent from beyond the arc. In other words, Hill can flat stroke it. Beyond that, however, Hill had one of the 100 best-foul drawing rates in the country last season. Add it all up and Hill had the highest offensive rating in the nation among high-usage players. His playmaking abilities are in question, as is the caliber of compe ion he faced at IUPUI, but Hill turned heads in Orlando last week and will likely be a second-round pick.
He was the go to guy at his school and he had some of the highest percentages in the country.... I think that had to be a factor on this
He will be playing the point and going up against NBA compe ion. I'm optimistic, but not thinking "star" anytime soon.
I think the offensive mentality of George Hill may serve him well in the NBA. He wants to beat guys through his offense yet without having to be careless and in the shot selections he takes.
There are other scorers out there who just seems to take so many shots to the detriment of all around team game.
Lot of heart and desire. Fearless on both ends. The anti-Beno.
Very capable scorer. The anti-Vaughn.
He could be just the remedy we've been looking for at the PG position.
God, let the Spurs FO find another hidden gem in the draft before the Big 3 leave and I swear I'll give up all my vices....well, not that one...and certainly not THAT one, but I will make you a list as soon as I can think of them.
Gotta save yourself a few.
I think he will be good
In any event I doubt we'll know if this guy can actually develop into a reliable player until his third season. At least thats when I started to feel comfortable with Tony and Manu and no I'm not saying he'll end up being that good.
I'm happy if the team can put him on the court without him being a liability like Vaughn, Horry or Finley.
It took you three years (and two championships) to be comfortable with Manu? Your standards might be a bit high. I was sold his rookie playoffs against LA.
Well a guy having talent is one thing. I felt good about Manu thats for sure but guys come and go in this league and you really don't know if you have a solid reliable everyday contributor until they can do it for at least two years....sometimes more. The average life expectancy in the NBA is what 2.5 maybe 3 years?
I've always felt with Vaughn on the court, we are playing 4 on 5 on offense. Any leads seem to slip away, or we dig a bigger hole, when Vaughn is giving TP a rest.
Now if Hill can in fact be a scoring threat, and can relegate Vaughn to 3rd PG off the bench for clean up time, I think that alone will be a tremendous help to our offense.
I know Vaughn gives it his all when he is in, but his all just isn't good enough. When teams leave him wide open and dare him to shoot, they must believe he isn't going to hit one very often.
Hill is next TP!!
Mason Jr.
Hill
Hairston
Gist
Mahinmi
Pop's going to be experimenting to see what he's got probably until calendar year 2009. I think we'll know somewhere around December or January what we've got out of our new guys.
My biggest worry is that the guy might not ever be an NBA PG. THe only reason we're calling him a PG is because he's "too small" to be a SG. Point guards are born, not made.
Last edited by ShoogarBear; 07-12-2008 at 12:24 PM.
Yes. Calling him a PG is sheer optimism at this point. He got a lot of assists at his tiny school because he was considerably better than everyone else.
Spurs have picked up to guys (if Hairston makes it) who have pretty good ballhandling skills. Hairston took over PG duties when Ty Lawson went out for the pre-draft camp and did a creditable job. Spurs may not have a pure PG but then again they haven't had one for years. Hopefully these guys can get the ball up the floor unlike Beno.
He wasnt drafted to be a point ....he was drafted to give mins at both spots if needed and allow us to match up with C Paul......and Some of the pgs out west. He will also allow Manu to not have to play point with second team. Lots of good NBA a player we not considered pure pgs........Look at Terry Potter he played C in college. Look at Jordan Farmar who is similar to George Hill.....he has been great off the bench for LA.......
He was completely drafted to be a point guard. He might play a little with Tony, but no more than Beno or Jacque did.
I think he will play with Tony when we play teams that go small alot.The guy is a scorer and he is long. Doesnt really matter he is 6-2 he has a 6-9 wingspan which makes up for his lack of ht. We dont run a true point anyway we have a motion set and a high low set so all we need is someone to get the ball past half court without having it stolen.
He was good enough to be recruited by Florida...but he chose family over status. Sounds like a guy with a head on his shoulders (and a chip, too, so much so that he wants to prove his doubters wrong.
Does anyone know of a team that looked at Chalmers and Hill together? I remember reading somewhere last week that Hill had outplayed him when they were matched up in a pre draft workout...can't remember where...
im not a fan of espn, but this is interesting to see http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...period=1&set=2
That one team in South Texas. The Sparrows or something like that.
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