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It's in Hill's interview on Spurs.com. He went against Chalmers and Taylor as far as PGs, and there were others such as Jawai and Greene.
They were literally on the floor at the same time and actually going one-on-one? Or 3 on 3, or 5 on 5? Is there a story or link?That one team in South Texas. The Sparrows or something like that.
Is smokin' smilie a close relative of smug smilie?
Last edited by Tully365; 07-12-2008 at 04:43 PM.
It's in Hill's interview on Spurs.com. He went against Chalmers and Taylor as far as PGs, and there were others such as Jawai and Greene.
lets just see if he can find his way around SA (dognut locations), before we give this rook any kind of ups or downs.....
Dognuts? Ewww.
Thanks for the info.
Last edited by Tully365; 07-12-2008 at 05:46 PM.
I checked out the site, but it didn't give much info. I guess I'm just wondering if anyone had any specific info as to what the Spurs saw in Hill to make them pass over Chalmers.
Most of the time when player work out for a team they will bring in Bigs and Wing players they think can test the others weakness. The Spurs worked out Hill, Taylor and Chalmers together most of the time to keep other teams from keying on the player they want so its alot of smoke screens given. From what I have heard they think Hill is a better scorer then Chalmers and believe he is a better leader. He interviewed better and the spurs like his maturity. I also believe the fact that hill was keyed on as the only good player on his team and the fact Chalmers had several other nba players on his team was also taken into account. Watching tape I dont see much separation but I did like Chalmers as well.
On youtube there are lots of videos of pre draft workouts done by the Trailblazers, where guys were generally worked out alone, 1-on-1, and 3-on-3, but never 5-on-5. I was just wondering how the Spurs conducted their workouts. The idea that the PG of the national champs helped to serve at least partially as a smokescreen for the PG of IUPUI is a great story, don't you think? It would have been fascinating to be in the head of Mario Chalmers if after 45 minutes he realized that he was actually being outplayed by Hill, and again on draft night when Hill was picked ahead of him. Hopefully, at some time in the future, Chalmers, Hill, or the Spurs will talk about it in greater detail.
True enough if you're thinking "pure" point guard, a la John Stockton, Maurice Cheeks, Mark Jackson, etc. But he could be a score-first PG a la Chauncey Billups or Terry Porter. You can develop guys into score-first PGs IMO. In any event he'll be playing plenty of two in small lineups.THe only reason we're calling him a PG is because he's "too small" to be a SG. Point guards are born, not made.
True work outs are almost never 5 on 5 and the spurs are very secretive about who the workout and when. Most of the time they just wanna get a look at how a big and a pg will react to each other. From my understanding Hill worked Chalmers over in a workout so much so that other teams that wanted to have the two work out against each other we refuse by Chalmers reps. And Taylor was run off the floor. From what I have heard the Spurs only worked out about 10 players this year and only 5 of those were drafted. So guys I had never heard of and dont look like NBA guys at all. I know they were concerned with LA Lakers trading up a pick or two above us to get Hill who La really wanted, thats why the story came out about Pops and Buford screaming after houston picked Batum. They were worried LA and Houston had a deal to draft Hill.
There's a time to work and a time to party, but when one affects the other it is time to pick one or the other. You can't be a great professional if your partying interferes with your job, and you can't go balls-to-the-wall every night if your job makes you wake up at 6:30 in the morning.
Everyone has given Beno a lot of crap for his party mentality and I think at least some of that is an exaggeration of what he does in his free time, but the fact that he is still known as a party guy hints at a deeper issue: Beno lacked the perspective that comes with experience, so he considered one to lifestyle to be an affect of the other.
While there may be some physical progression toward getting younger, the Spurs will ALWAYS be an old team in the mental sense. Parker is still young, but he carries himself, at least on the court, like a mature and seasoned professional. Udoka, same thing. Same with Mahinmi (at least from what I can tell) as well.
The Spurs are an old team, and judging by the comments these draft picks have made, they will still be in the future. The fact that Hill already speaks about the team like co-workers shows he at least has the adult perspective Popovich looks for. Hill was a good hire, and from what it sounds like, Gist and Hairiston will be as well.
Interesting. With the emergence of Chris Paul it seems that many people are again talking about the "necessity" of having a pure PG. The problem with this philosophy is that the best pure point guards haven't won any championships in a long time. Billups is about the closest in recent times, but Kidd, Nash, TJ Ford, Stockton, etc., have not-- and it's not like they haven't had talent around them. Big men, small forwards, and shooting or combo guards have been the pieces in the past twenty years most responsible for les, while pass first PGs have become more rare.
The Spurs don't have an 8-10 assist per game kind of player, but Duncan, Ginobili, and Oberto are all good passers while Parker's strength is penetrating and scoring in the lane-- his assist numbers aren't terrible-- but he is not a traditional pass first PG at all.
We'll see if this trend changes in the next few years with Calderon, Deron Williams, and Paul... especially since Mayo and Rose will be challenging them now too.
i dunno man.. my whole take is.. if G. Hill is as good as we're makin' him out to be.. why wasn't he selected before we got a chance at him.. it's not as if he was overseas or anything and ppl just overlooked him.. G. Hill may be good.."MAY BE" but chalmers is proven.. and so far so good from the summerleague games.. i swear i broke something when i saw us draft Hill.. "who da is dat??" reminds me of last year when we picked marcus williams.. "wtf?"
You did read his post didn't you?
Hard to say. If the Spurs took Chalmers and he didn't work out, the critics would say he was another Kansas guard who got hype by being on a good college team, like Jacques Vaughn...
The draft is like poker-- no one can expect to win every time: but you look at the odds, you guess what others will do, etc. If the Spurs actually saw Chalmers and Hill go against one another in a private workout and clearly saw Hill outplay him, it's hard to criticize their choice.... what are you going to believe, an event you actually see unfolding before your eyes, or the trendiest media hype?
Chalmers has played well in the summer league, and soon it will be Hill's turn.
Buford made it pretty cloear they had targeted Hill, were concerned when he showed so well in Orlando in the pre-draft camp that other teams would get interested. Buford said they hadn't had a player since Parker they'd targeted like Hill and it had worked out so well that he dropped to them. Obviously they'd had him in their sights for some time. Last time they were as excited about getting a player that player won a finals MVP eventually. But then what does the Spurs brass, Pop, RC, know. Afterall Mr Body thinks he was a reach, would have been there in round two and that much better talent was available.
Yes I did. Obviously you did not. Go find a fan forum for your ty team already.
My dog Barkley seems to dig them.
I like to cut them out.
Actually that picture post response you gave was awful because his post was about how so many teams could miss an American player. He actually said "it's not like he was overseas or something."
He was in a division 2 school which is why Buford pointed out he likely didn't draw attention. Just like some fool on thiws board and some NBA scouts apparently can't recognize talent even when they play at a lower level of compe on whether it's a division school tema or Paris Racing.
I don't really have an opinion, just thought Bryant's picture response was bizarre.
A large number of teams passed on Tony Parker in the 1st round of the '01 draft. I guess the obvious is "bizarre" these days.
When does the Spurs Summer League games begin?
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