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Exactly. So shut up already.Fans and media critics who have been calling for the Spurs to get younger and more athletic may finally be getting their wish.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.4007bb0.html
Spurs: Replacing old guard with new blood
By Mike Monroe
We're older than dirt. — Gregg Popovich
Youth is a wonderful thing. What a crime to waste it on children. — George Bernard Shaw
LAS VEGAS — The 13 players who suited up for the Spurs in their playoff run last season averaged 32.46 years old. That made them, if not quite as ancient as dirt, the oldest team in the NBA.
Depending, in part, on what Popovich and his assistants see from first-round draft pick George Hill, who is 22, and a group of equally young players who will put their skills on display in summer league games in Las Vegas and Salt Lake City over the next nine days, the Spurs figure to be significantly younger when the 2008-09 regular season begins.
Simply plugging free agent signee Roger Mason Jr., 27, in the guard spot once occupied by Brent Barry, who is 36, instantly drops the average age to 31.76. It will drop more before next season's opener, perhaps dramatically, depending on which players make the roster.
Fans and media critics who have been calling for the Spurs to get younger and more athletic may finally be getting their wish.
Hill, the combination guard from Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) almost certainly will be on the opening night roster. In a rare show of confidence, Popovich asserted that Hill will be Tony Parker's primary backup and make the Spurs better, at both ends of the court, “right off the bat.”
Like Hill, Spurs second-round picks Malik Hairston and James Gist are 22. Popovich says he thinks both players are good enough to make the Spurs' 15-man roster.
Ian Mahinimi, 18 when the Spurs made him the 28th pick of the 2004 draft, also will be in Las Vegas and Salt Lake City. Entering the second season of the contract he signed last summer, Mahinmi spent most of last season with the Spurs' D-League team, the Austin Toros. His goal this summer: Convince the Spurs' coaches his game has developed to the point he merits a spot in the team's big man rotation, along with Tim Duncan, Fabricio Oberto, Matt Bonner and Kurt Thomas, should the Spurs re-sign him.
Don't make the mistake of calling next season the beginning of a transition period for a team that has won four championships since 1999. The Spurs don't mind being among the oldest teams in the league. NBA history suggests those teams are best suited for extended playoff runs.
“That's the popular thing to say or write,” said assistant coach Mike Budenholzer, Popovich's top assistant and head coach of the summer league team. “But we didn't lose (to the Lakers, in the 2008 Western Conference finals) because we were too old. If you were inside the walls, you'd know we don't believe we lost because we were too old.”
Budenholzer said summer league play is much more important for Hill, Hairston, Gist and Mahinmi than it is for the Spurs, who know they will remain among the league's best teams as long as Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker are healthy.
The youngsters know what they must do. Flattered by Popovich's draft night praise, Hill takes nothing for granted about a spot in the team's backcourt rotation.
“It's a great opportunity to play with Tony Parker,” Hill said. “He's a great player, but you've got a great vet, also, in Jacque Vaughn. You can't count anyone out. There's two players at that position I can learn so much from, just from the standpoint of Vaughn being in the NBA for so many years and Parker just being a great point guard.
“I have the best end of it right now, learning from two great players.”
Budenholzer won't place unreasonable expectations on Hill when summer league play begins Monday night with a game against the Memphis Grizzlies at Thomas and Mack Arena.
“I do think it's going to happen,” Budenholzer said of Hill's development into a rotation player, “but it's hard to put that kind of pressure on him. He might even struggle in summer league. But he's got all of August and training camp to learn.
“I want to slow it down a little bit and not judge him just on the next two weeks. But he has a lot of things we believe in. I think he's going to be good, but it might take a while to evolve. He's a great compe or, one of those kids who is going to find a way.”
Hairston, a former McDonald's high school All-American, has a simple goal for summer league: win.
“That's the big thing,” Hairston said, “and I think that's why I might be a great fit in San Antonio, because they love to win and do everything that it takes. I just want to show them I'll work hard every possession to try to make my team better and do whatever my team needs me to do.”
What the Spurs most want to see from all their summer leaguers is commitment to the Spurs' philosophy of team play.
“We have the same message for all of these summer league guys: Show us you can play defense and are willing to play team basketball,” Budenholzer said. “Be unselfish, make the little plays, get guys open, feed the post.”
And if they do?
On opening night, the Spurs could suit up a lineup with an average age under 30.
Then it will be Spurs 1, Dirt 0.
Spurs Roster
Matt Bonner, F, 28
Bruce Bowen, F, 37
Tim Duncan, F, 32
* Michael Finley, G, 35
Manu Ginobili, G, 30
James Gist, F, 21
Malik Hairston, G, 21
George Hill, G, 22
* Robert Horry, F, 37
Ian Mahinmi, F, 21
Roger Mason, G, 27
Fabricio Oberto, C, 33
Tony Parker, G, 26
* Kurt Thomas, C, 35
Ime Udoka, F, 30
Jacque Vaughn, G, 33
The average age of the current Spurs roster is 29.3.
Note: The Spurs must start the season with 12 active players and can carry up to three on the inactive list.
* — Unrestricted free agent
Exactly. So shut up already.Fans and media critics who have been calling for the Spurs to get younger and more athletic may finally be getting their wish.
+1
I'll defend the FO forever on this. Their plan, to have the contracts of 4 older guys all expire at the same time, to bring over Splitter, to draft for immediate help & youth, and to sign a younger free agent, was a great plan. The Splitter thing was not their fault-- drafting him was a very intelligent thing to do. Portland picking Oden was a good move too-- if it turns out that he is constantly injured over the next few years and has to retire young a la Ralph Sampson or Jonathan Bender, that will not mean that their FO is stupid. It will mean they had bad luck, which is an unfortunate malady that strikes every FO from time to time.
Last edited by Tully365; 07-12-2008 at 11:12 PM.
Summer league will definitely be interesting. I am most interested in seeing Mahinmi's development (note: he was drafted in 2005 not 2004).
Yeah, everyone whined for the Spurs to get younger. Now they are getting younger, people are complaining about the players who are leaving.
Hopefully Mike Bud is just trying to lower expectations. If Hill doesn't at least look decent in summer league, the Spurs might have to alter their plans in free agency.Budenholzer won't place unreasonable expectations on Hill when summer league play begins Monday night with a game against the Memphis Grizzlies at Thomas and Mack Arena.
“I do think it's going to happen,” Budenholzer said of Hill's development into a rotation player, “but it's hard to put that kind of pressure on him. He might even struggle in summer league. But he's got all of August and training camp to learn.
“I want to slow it down a little bit and not judge him just on the next two weeks. But he has a lot of things we believe in. I think he's going to be good, but it might take a while to evolve. He's a great compe or, one of those kids who is going to find a way.”
Their plan is fine. It's the execution of their plan that leaves you scratching your head.
So what should we have done?
Be in the lottery the last five years or so so we could load up on young talent.
Bring on the rookies!
Their execution was fine. Splitter surprised everybody. That was the glitch. That's not bad execution-- it's bad luck. But it'll be no different if Greg Oden's two legs, which are different lengths, cause him constant hip and knee problems, which is something that is very plausible. I hope it doesn't happen-- I like the guy, and think he is talented and classy, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility...
Looking forward to seeing Mahinmi and Hill. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hairston isn't the one who stands out though.
This is going to be the most important summer league I can remember. Two potential rotation players and a total of four players who are good bets to make the team? I'm not going to expect domination but they need to play much, much, much better than Marcus Williams did last year.
Speaking of Williams, he's shooting 11% for the Clippers in their first two games. I guess all those Spurs fans who thought I was being mean when I said he sucked and was a bust after the first summer league game last year will begin to see the light soon . . .
the team as a whole should do a lot better than last year if Hill is even a marginally competant d-league level point guard.
The point guard play on last year's squad was ridiculously bad in my memory.
Their execution sucked. They used a first round pick on George Hill? From IUPUI? Give me an effing break! The Spurs got lucky drafting Parker and Ginobili several years ago, but have been brain-dead ever since.
You never ever saw him play, so why act like you have?
What? Are you attempting to make a point?
You would know T Long seeing as you fail greatly everytime at trying to make one.
All your trying to do is troll and be funny.
You fail miserably at both. Quit trying.
This quote could be gold in 5 years time, one way or another.
Point to the last time your team was worth a !
Even as a Spurs fan, I'd be feeling more optimistic about the Blazers line-up for the next 5-10 years than I do the Spurs.
Well , if the Spurs hadn't been busy winning les then maybe they could have sucked and loaded up on lottery picks like the Blazers.
A team full of lottery picks doesn't mean they will be worth a damn.
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