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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Neo Cons in Israel are itching to bomb Iran in a futile effort to destroy, or delay a nucluar program that the I.A.E.A., the WMD arm of the U.N., has found no basis to support that Iran is building nucluar weapons...the latest assessment by our own intelligence just a year ago was that Iran was still 10 years away from having the technological capability to make a single nucluar weapon....of course, these facts won't stop the war-happy Neo Cons in Israel or the U.S. from playing the mushroom-cloud spin (again)..

    President George W Bush has told the Israeli government that he may be prepared to approve a future military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities if negotiations with Tehran break down, according to a senior Pentagon official.

    Despite the opposition of his own generals and widespread scepticism that America is ready to risk the military, political and economic consequences of an airborne strike on Iran, the president has given an “amber light” to an Israeli plan to attack Iran’s main nuclear sites with long-range bombing sorties, the official told The Sunday Times.

    “Amber means get on with your preparations, stand by for immediate attack and tell us when you’re ready,” the official said. But the Israelis have also been told that they can expect no help from American forces and will not be able to use US military bases in Iraq for logistical support.

    Nor is it certain that Bush’s amber light would ever turn to green without irrefutable evidence of lethal Iranian hostility. Tehran’s test launches of medium-range ballistic missiles last week were seen in Washington as provocative and poorly judged, but both the Pentagon and the CIA concluded that they did not represent an immediate threat of attack against Israeli or US targets.
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    It's incredible that here we are 6 years after knowing what we know now about how the current administration lied us into a unnecessary war in the Middle East... our inept M$M is letting them get away with it again...

    ...where is the investigative reporting by our media? How will the American people react when war with Iran brings $7-8-9 gas? What will this do to Israel-American relations in the future? How many American jobs will this war costs? Is that what it will finally take for Americans to turn off TV and pay attention? Is there hope?

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    Well, if they don't have nukes it could hardly be called Armageddon -- so we got that going for us.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Well, if they don't have nukes it could hardly be called Armageddon -- so we got that going for us.
    Won't stop our own loonies from dropping nucluar weapons and saying, 'see we told ya they were hiding this stuff'...

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    So it's just Armageddon for Iran.

    Nice leap of logic there. Israeli airstrike = US looney nuke.

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    You're right Nbadan. You should pack up and move to Darfur. I hear the real estate there is quite affordable.

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    time 4a change

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    so, we should wait 10 yrs to attack them? you, yourself, say they are 10 years from building a bomb.

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    They may be ten years away, but are they actually working on it?

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    If someone in my neighborhood is constantly threatening the annihilation of my Family, and claims he has the means to do so, should I sit around twiddling my thumbs if I'm capable of taking pre-emptive action to stop that annihilation?


    p.s. For the logic-challenged that are struggling to come up with a correct response, the answer is NO!

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    Israel is not our family.

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    Israel is not our family.
    Neither are you, thank God.

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    I would like to see the quote where he explicitly threatens to strike at the US.

    Surely you have it bookmarked.

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    I would like to see the quote where he explicitly threatens to strike at the US.

    Surely you have it bookmarked.
    You have google, do the work yourself.

    Children, they want you to do all the heavy lifting.

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    You have google, do the work yourself.

    Children, they want you to do all the heavy lifting.
    I looked.

    Didn't find anything, so people who make that claim are lying.

    Happens a lot here.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    I looked.

    Didn't find anything, so people who make that claim are lying.

    Happens a lot here.
    This took just about two mins.

    http://www.dawn.com/2008/07/13/top9.htm

    Headline:

    Iran threatens to hit 32 US bases, Israel

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    The Israelis must get this reactor bombed before the next President takes office. Presient Obama will not take kindly to Israel bombing that reactor, Iran shutting down the Persian Gulf and the current very fragile world economy being spun further downward and out of control.

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    "Iran would destroy Israel and 32 US military bases in the Middle East if the Islamic Republic was attacked over its disputed nuclear programme.."

    And I hate to break it to you but Mojtaba Zolnour is not the leader of Iran.

    And US bases in the middle east are not the US.

    Thanks for playing though, too bad you couldn't find anything.

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    This took just about two mins.

    http://www.dawn.com/2008/07/13/top9.htm

    Headline:

    Iran threatens to hit 32 US bases, Israel
    Still using all the muscles except the one that matters?

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    Iran is fully aware, as was Russia, of Mutually Assured Destruction, MAD. Iran would be obliterated by Israel and US if it attacked Israel or US M/E bases.

    The "nuclear Iran" smokescreen, similar to Saddam's WMD, hides the real US objective, which is Iran's oil and gas.

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    If someone in my neighborhood is constantly threatening the annihilation of my Family, and claims he has the means to do so, should I sit around twiddling my thumbs if I'm capable of taking pre-emptive action to stop that annihilation?

    p.s. For the logic-challenged that are struggling to come up with a correct response, the answer is NO!
    I'm curious to know, in this example, what would you actually do:
    1) Break the law, take a gun and murder them. (War)
    2) Go to a court and obtain a restraining order. (Diplomacy, with sanctions)
    3) Call him up and try to work out the differences. (Direct diplomacy)
    4) Other, please explain?

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    I'm curious to know, in this example, what would you actually do:
    1) Break the law, take a gun and murder them. (War)
    2) Go to a court and obtain a restraining order. (Diplomacy, with sanctions)
    3) Call him up and try to work out the differences. (Direct diplomacy)
    4) Other, please explain?
    First to clarify; in my original post I was speaking of Israel and Iran, not the U.S. and Iran (for CD).


    And personally? I can't fathom how it would feel to have someone threaten my existence, especially if my intentions were to live and let live, therefore, realistically I don't know how I would handle it. It's incomprehensible to the extent that I can't answer it, yet that's the very position that Israel find's herself in.



    How would you handle it if your Family were threatened in such a manner? How strong and deep are your instincts to protect your family from obliteration?
    Assume that diplomacy of any kind is out of the question; that no outside intervention is available to help and assume that, other than a pre-emptive strike, you have no recourse other than to sit back and wait to see if they make good on their threat.
    How do you deal with that?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    So it's just Armageddon for Iran.

    Nice leap of logic there. Israeli airstrike = US looney nuke.
    Yeah, I'm sure that the radioactive cloud will recognize borders...


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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    You're right Nbadan. You should pack up and move to Darfur. I hear the real estate there is quite affordable.
    Nah, that's one of the (growing) few places on earth members of our current administration can still move to without fear of arrest....

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    First to clarify; in my original post I was speaking of Israel and Iran, not the U.S. and Iran (for CD).


    And personally? I can't fathom how it would feel to have someone threaten my existence, especially if my intentions were to live and let live, therefore, realistically I don't know how I would handle it. It's incomprehensible to the extent that I can't answer it, yet that's the very position that Israel find's herself in.



    How would you handle it if your Family were threatened in such a manner? How strong and deep are your instincts to protect your family from obliteration?
    Assume that diplomacy of any kind is out of the question; that no outside intervention is available to help and assume that, other than a pre-emptive strike, you have no recourse other than to sit back and wait to see if they make good on their threat.
    How do you deal with that?
    Israel has 300 nucluar weapons, Iran has 0....they don't even have the capacity to make enough plutonium for one nucluar weapon....so tell me how Iran is gonna destroy Israel again?

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    Yeah, I'm sure that the radioactive cloud will recognize borders...

    No, you misunderstand. There will be no radioactive cloud because their will be no US nuking of Iran. I was ridiculing your looney nuke.

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