Umm... no I think he was laughing at them... like im laughing at you for your lame ass attempt to turn that around on him...
If that was aggie whining... then "black hole" is a racially insensitive term...
If one isn't Repug, right-wing, bubba, dubya-sucker, etc, then one is a Dem, a liberal, a traitor, a terrorist-lover, and now a whiner.
"If you aren't with us, you're against us", a Great American Lie.
Gramm is a Repug slime bag, just another reason to disqualify McSenileFlop from consideration.
Meanwhile, ABCNeo-ConNews has pulled out its 'experts' to explain to you that you've had it good for so long. recession-smecession....it's all in your head!
'Nation of Whiners' Could Have Credence
Expert: Consumers Are Too Emotional, Media Exaggerates 'Catastrophes'
By KATE SNOW and LEE FERRAN
July 13, 2008
ABC NewsThis week, former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, economic adviser to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., gave an interesting persepective on the nation's economic concerns by calling the U.S. a "nation of whiners."
While the comment ruffled feathers across the nation and prompted swift condemnation from presumptive presidential candidates Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and McCain, according to consumer psychologist Kit Yarrow, Gramm was on to something.
"I think the way consumers feel about things is very emotional," Yarrow told "Good Morning America" today. "Those emotions are trumping reality, creating a snowball, which makes the economy worse. It's not as bad as consumers feel like it is."
Yarrow, who is also the Russell T. Sharpe Professor of Business at Golden Gate University, says that lack of consumer confidence has been caused by an negative overreaction to recent economic trends.
"We've had great prosperity for the last few years," Yarrow said. "We had very cheap gas. We've had a lot of increase in our home values. We've had it really pretty good as the stock market increases. Emotion is always caused by this mismatch between what we perceive and reality. It's really emotion, the psychology, that's contributing to our economy right now in a negative way."
Consumer PSYCHOLOGIST...
This is exactly what I am posting about in other threads....Obama or one of his supporters make a slip up and the M$M is on them like white on rice, but a McCain economic adviser makes a slip and you see any number of columns supporting them no matter how extremely out of touch it makes them look, as another example from the 'liberal' Washington Post shows....
Phil Gramm Is Right
By Amity Shlaes
Saturday, July 12, 2008; Page A13
Washington Post"In serious consideration for ambassador to Belarus." That's the role John McCain joked that former senator Phil Gramm might have in a McCain administration. Gramm is McCain's most senior economic adviser, the one best qualified to lead the finance team of a McCain presidency. Now, however, Gramm faces political exile because he made the mistake of telling the truth.
What prompted the abrupt demotion? The short answer is what might be called Campaign Econ. Campaign Econ says the American economy is a certain way because Americans think it is. Campaign Econ competes with real economics and often wins -- with damage that extends way beyond, say, the political career of either Phil Gramm or John McCain.
Consider what happened this week. While speaking with the Washington Times, Gramm said that the country was not in a true recession but a "mental recession." He also said, "We have sort of become a nation of whiners" and "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of compe iveness, America in decline."
Gramm was right about the recession and stood by his recession comments on Thursday. A recession is two consecutive quarters in which the economy shrinks, and last quarter it grew. But no matter. Voters feel they are in a recession, and so they are, at least according to Campaign Econ.
Gramm's second sin was political. Calling voters whiners is to shame them. He later rephrased this comment, saying it was not voters he meant but politicians. That's because shaming voters is something American politicians simply don't do. Campaign Econ is unabashedly populist, and to seek to elicit shame is regarded as unpardonably elitist. Earlier this year, the McCain team was already terrified of seeming elitist. His advisers convinced themselves that the closeness of the primary contest was due to a lack of generosity. In January, when the McCain folks were desperate to win the Michigan primary, they ground their teeth down as Mitt Romney pandered to the auto industry. Romney's promise of unlimited support for carmakers won him that primary -- but not the nomination. Still, since then, McCain's advisers have sought to prove that he understands Campaign Econ; consider their proposal of a summer gas tax holiday.
Amity Shlaes is a senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of "The Forgotten Man." She recently spoke at a meeting hosted by the Mercatus Center and the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is chaired by Wendy Gramm, wife of Phil Gramm."
Haven't heard it from McSame, but it looks like Gramm is jettisoned. what a shame
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoi..._not_advis.php
I thought he made that pretty obvious the other day.
I disagree with Phil Gramm…This political forum is filled with anti American whiners…But as a whole, people in the USA are still proud of their country…
We are a nation of whiners. And we're led by a bunch of ing appeasers who try to cater to every ing whine so unless Gramm is going to propose some real life tough love perhaps he should just stfu.
After Obama wins the election we'll see whining from the conservative republicans and wannabe libertarians like yoni and the lead whiner will be Rush Limpballs.
More or less. A politician can't state the obvious these days. Everyone in this country expects their losses to be socialized and their gains to be tax free. Fannie and Freddie are the latest examples. When things go against you, it's time for the Fairy Federal Godmother to step in and bail your ass out.
How Phill Gramm ruined the economy...
'We don't need no stinking regulation!'
LinkyFormer Senator Phil Gramm resigned late Friday as a co-chairman of Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign, capping a day filled with controversy for Mr. McCain, the presumed Republican nominee.
“It is clear to me that Democrats want to attack me rather than debate Senator McCain on important economic issues facing the country,” Mr. Gramm said in a statement issued by the campaign. “That kind of distraction hurts not only Senator McCain’s ability to present concrete programs to deal with the country’s problems, it hurts the country.”
Mr. Gramm, a multimillionaire banker, has been under fire since last week, when he dismissed concerns about the troubled economy by referring to “a mental recession.” He also said the United States had become “a nation of whiners,” a remark providing fodder for Democrats to portray Republicans as out of touch with the concerns of ordinary Americans.
Since the start of his campaign, but particularly since the onset of the most recent economic turmoil, Mr. McCain has been struggling to convince voters of his ability to manage the economy, an area he has acknowledged in the past as a weakness. Mr. Gramm, in addition to being a close friend, helped design his economic program and, until last week’s gaffe, was being mentioned as a possible treasury secretary in a McCain administration.
You gotta love how Gramm trashes Americans, gets called on it, quits and blames Obama
Make no mistake about it, the reason Gramm quit the McCain camp was not because the bank he chairs was caught yesterday shielding tax cheats!
UBS vows to expose tax-cheat clients
Geoff Elliott, Washington correspondent | July 19, 2008
LinkyUBS, the world's largest private banking group, stunned the financial world yesterday when it shelved all its offshore banking services for US residents and appeared to rip up the traditional Swiss franchise of secrecy, saying it was co-operating with the US's tax authorities to expose tax cheats.
Caught up in the same do ent sweep from the LGT Bank in Liechtenstein that exposed the private banking dealings of Australia's Frank Lowy, a UBS executive fronted a congressional inquiry in Washington DC and announced a stunning about-face.
"I am here today to make it absolutely clear that UBS genuinely regrets any compliance failures that may have occurred," said Mark Branson, UBS's Zurich-based chief financial officer of global wealth services.
"We have decided to exit entirely the business in question," he said of questionable banking services for US residents. "That means UBS will no longer provide offshore banking or security services to US residents through our bank branches."
But he also announced that UBS was now working with the US Government to "identify the names of US clients who may have engaged in tax fraud".
He said while Swiss banking laws prevented client disclosure, "such privacy protections do not apply when disclosure of client names is requested in connection with an investigation of tax fraud". Mr Branson said the 80,000 worldwide employees of UBS -- the investment bank has a substantial presence in Australia -- were alarmed by reports of misconduct.
"They want to know that such misconduct does not belong in UBS and that the firm's ethics match their own. I am here today to tell you and to tell them that no, that kind of misconduct does not belong in UBS," he said.
The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations' report claimed that UBS and the LGT Bank, located in Liechtenstein and owned by the principality's royal family, helped many US citizens dodge taxes.
The committee, chaired by Michigan Democrat Carl Levin, said that through elaborate schemes at many banks in tax havens around the world, US citizens annually avoided up to $US100 billion ($103 billion) in tax payments. The report accused tax haven nations of engaging in "economic warfare against the United States and honest hard-working American taxpayers".
The subcommittee said UBS had an estimated 19,000 "undeclared accounts" for US citizens hiding $US18 billion in assets from the Internal Revenue Service. The effect of the UBS's change is that it will now direct US clients to the wealth management operations of its US-regulated businesses, rather than branches of its Swiss-domiciled businesses, which operate under Swiss law and allows the avenue of hiding assets from US tax authorities.
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