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    The Spurs front office is not the problem, and neither is our big three of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili. The disadvantage the Spurs operate from is the city they call home. The only way this team ever improves is through luck of the draft, and marginally through free agent signings and trades. You may say that’s the way every team improves in the league. I would argue that the magnet that exists in some large markets plays a bigger role in trades and free agent signings than it does on a winning organization playing in a small market. I can’t think of a free agent who came here who was a big name player and happened to be in the prime of their career; and who wasn’t drafted by the Spurs. Has it happened in the last 15 years? So, we’re left improving the team through draft luck, veteran free agent signings in the twilight of their career, and trades that usually bring veteran free agents in the twilight of their career, or some marginally talented kid who has a good at ude. The bottom line is good players in the prime of their career do not want to play in San Antonio, so you can all but give up any hope of an excellent player wanting to play for the Spurs. We should count our lucky stars that the Duncan’s and Robinsons of the world decided to stay,

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    They probably have come close to replicating that success with Scola and Splitter, but have run into serious snags when it came to actually signing them.
    But it seems to me that their ability to judge talent is as strong as ever. If Hill plays well, they will be admired for choosing a star from a lower tier mid major program in 2008 as much as they were admired in the past for picking a skinny French kid that many were unfamiliar with.

    A year ago, Kobe was saying the same thing about Bynum.
    Bynum was a #10 lottery pick. Not a late 1st rounder.

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    The Spurs front office is not the problem, and neither is our big three of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili. The disadvantage the Spurs operate from is the city they call home. The only way this team ever improves is through luck of the draft, and marginally through free agent signings and trades. You may say that’s the way every team improves in the league. I would argue that the magnet that exists in some large markets plays a bigger role in trades and free agent signings than it does on a winning organization playing in a small market. I can’t think of a free agent who came here who was a big name player and happened to be in the prime of their career; and who wasn’t drafted by the Spurs. Has it happened in the last 15 years? So, we’re left improving the team through draft luck, veteran free agent signings in the twilight of their career, and trades that usually bring veteran free agents in the twilight of their career, or some marginally talented kid who has a good at ude. The bottom line is good players in the prime of their career do not want to play in San Antonio, so you can all but give up any hope of an excellent player wanting to play for the Spurs. We should count our lucky stars that the Duncan’s and Robinsons of the world decided to stay,

    hate to say it but its true. i havent seen a BIG time superstar player ever say he wanted to play in San Antonio. actually many of them have passed on the oppurtunity to play with us.

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    The Spurs not only never pay the luxury tax, that means they get part of the distribution from the teams that do as a windfall. This month they got almost $4,000,000.

    But you'll never see them reinvesting that money in players that might send THEM into luxury tax land. Wouldn't be prudent.
    I feel the same way too...I know that its business and owner will be happy if he get $4.000.000 income by operating under luxury... I just hope that we got enough firepower for this season considering other teams got much better in terms of supporting casts. On the other hand we just need to depend on luck, health of Big 3, and hold our breath once more during playoffs coz its really possible we got knocked out again.....or simply run out of gas and shoot bricks. It's really good being owner of SA,I wish Im the one.

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    It wasn't just $4 mil. Coupled with the player expense savings from the Scola trade (including the lux tax expense avoided) the Spurs benefited to the tune of $15 mil.

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    hate to say it but its true. i havent seen a BIG time superstar player ever say he wanted to play in San Antonio. actually many of them have passed on the oppurtunity to play with us.
    Corey magette is one of them....... and sadly I expect more to come. Are we really that bad as a town...or they afraid of the coach or afraid we might stingy as and paiy them low salary or sumthin. I also hate to see this happen, but well it might be a goo dtime to apply law of Detachment (just let go and let universe be what the they wanna be)

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    Corey magette is one of them....... and sadly I expect more to come. Are we really that bad as a town...or they afraid of the coach or afraid we might stingy as and paiy them low salary or sumthin. I also hate to see this happen, but well it might be a goo dtime to apply law of Detachment (just let go and let universe be what the they wanna be)

    its quite simple really. People are sheep. they go wherever they are told. whatever the shepard says (ESPN,MAINSTREAN MEDIA) to go they will go.most people are drawn to big cities with big attention. especially players with big egos. very few big name players dont care about the limelight and truly dedicate themselves to winning. San Antonio has been talked about as a boring city over and over again and that really effects the outcome of a players decision. all these ESPN so called analysts are all lobbyists to get the big name players to go to the big market teams so they can make more money. and thats what it comes down to folks really. is money.

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    Now and in the future you need 4 stars, not 3.
    Like the Celtics right? Or maybe like the Lakers...

    You don't need 4 stars to win les, you need health and a decent bench.

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    Like the Celtics right? Or maybe like the Lakers...

    You don't need 4 stars to win les, you need health and a decent bench.

    and a good coach

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    and role players and ur second scorer has to show up in the 4th quarter

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    and role players and ur second scorer has to show up in the 4th quarter

    and a good home crowd

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    Most players go where the money is, and SA has been a great team the last 12 yrs. You dont see great teams sign big time FAs. Ron Artest says he wont play for the MLE even if it means not winning a championship he wants. B Davis wanted to go the the Knicks this summer but took the clips money. Kobe had his chance to got to Chi and turned it down. Do you see La signing big time FAs or Ny? And any FA who wants to go play in some of these big cities is doing so for the wrong reason........not to win so we dont want them. The only FA in recent times who spurned us was Jason Kidd who the spurs wanted to take a discount to play with Tim and so they could keep manu. He being greedy and foolish took the money to reup in Jersey...lost to SA in the finals and now his contract has assured the end of the Dallas mavs. In 2010 players will be lining up to play with us.

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    Most players go where the money is, and SA has been a great team the last 12 yrs. You dont see great teams sign big time FAs. Ron Artest says he wont play for the MLE even if it means not winning a championship he wants. B Davis wanted to go the the Knicks this summer but took the clips money. Kobe had his chance to got to Chi and turned it down. Do you see La signing big time FAs or Ny? And any FA who wants to go play in some of these big cities is doing so for the wrong reason........not to win so we dont want them. The only FA in recent times who spurned us was Jason Kidd who the spurs wanted to take a discount to play with Tim and so they could keep manu. He being greedy and foolish took the money to reup in Jersey...lost to SA in the finals and now his contract has assured the end of the Dallas mavs. In 2010 players will be lining up to play with us.
    The Spurs offer wasn't trying to get Kidd to take a discount. They were offering him the max they could pay him, which was only a difference of maybe 7-million of what he signed for. It would be even smaller of a difference because Texas doesn't have state income tax. He lost to the Spurs before his contract :

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