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So we should have expected the Spurs to pay about $15 mil in salary, luxury tax and forgone lux tax distributions to bring in Scola?
Regarding Hill - very much so. An attention grabber that apparently worked. I think Hill will be servicable, but not as good or with the offensive punch of Greene.
I know the Spurs have drafted late in rounds since 2003, but really they did before 2003 as well and found some great assets.
Since then it has been
2003 - traded pick that was future 6th man of year Barbosa for nothing. Completely wiffed on big FA.
2004 - Beno. Not currently on roster.
2005 - Mahinmi. Still unknown, but not looking very good right now. Verdict still out. Also, additional 1st obtained from Suns traded for Nazr.
2006 - Other 1st traded for Nazr.
2007 - Splitter
Then, throw in giving Scola away for absolutely nothing and you have some big time failures by this organization starting in 2003. No FO will make every right decision, but there have been a lot of horrible ones lately.
Imagine how much better the Spurs would potentially be if you just take back the Scola blunder and redo just the last 2 1st round picks?
So we should have expected the Spurs to pay about $15 mil in salary, luxury tax and forgone lux tax distributions to bring in Scola?
no where near that if we don't resign bonner.
Or Oberto. Now, I like Oberto, but I would rather have Scola's offense and still fairly capable defense and passing next to TD.
Then it would be $12 mil.
so signing Scola for the same contract we signed bonner would have cost the spurs $12 mil. Yeah right.
...and not moving Butler's contract, being exposed to the luxury tax on the player salary above the threshold, and missing out on the lux tax distribution from last year ($4 mil)? Uh, yeah.
ya it ALL over
still doesn't add up, but granted the cash is substantial. The biggest travesty is that our FO didn't have the foresight of two years and signed Butler. Are you telling me your finance manager (RC) didn't know this would have been a problem. I would fire my freakin financial advisor in a heartbeat. Jackie butler cost the spurs $15 mil.
They needed a starting center after they dealt Nesterovic and let Mohammed walk in free agency back in '06. As much as Spurs fans about minor player contracts how would they have handled themselves after the Spurs doled out $30 mil over 4 to Mohammed or Pryzbilla or whoever?
Jackie Butler would have cost the Spurs that much if they hadn't made the deal. Instead he cost them Scola.
Weren't the vast majority of the reactions to Butler's signing positive back then?still doesn't add up, but granted the cash is substantial. The biggest travesty is that our FO didn't have the foresight of two years and signed Butler. Are you telling me your finance manager (RC) didn't know this would have been a problem. I would fire my freakin financial advisor in a heartbeat. Jackie butler cost the spurs $15 mil
I distinctly remember timvp saying words to the effect of him being more excited about signing Butler than signing Elson, simply because of Butler's potential.
If that were indeed the case, then it's mostly on Butler that he didn't live up to his potential.
There were a lot of bad decisions with these players.
Replacing a David Robinson isn't easy. Spurs still found a way to win 2 les without him though.
two things, a financial advisor can tell you what type of situation you're going to be in when you sign a player. Butler, who was an unproven talent, put the spurs in a multim million dollar pickle. He was not worth it at all, truly no unproven talent is worth that much money. That falls flat on the shoulders of the FO.
Secondly, people liking Butler's talent is different than analyzing his cost.
It wasn't because of the centers that they brought in. Many of them ended up being benched because they didn't work out. Had any of those centers been any good they would still be with the spurs who still need a quality starting center.
they won it because of the big 4 and mostly TIM DUNCAN. The FO responsible for that big 4 is no longer here. Instead we're left with RC "Jackie Butler" Buford.
So paying Nesterovic $23.5 mil over the next 3 seasons was preferable?
Oberto definitely contributed in the '07 Finals.
yeah, we're going to replace DRob the Hall of Famer and 1st pick in the draft with scrubs. Spurs were in prefect position to add talent instead, but didn't.
No They should have never gotten Rasho in the first place.
so I guess all the FO people that have left the organization had nothing to do with it.
they needed Rasho for Shaq, period.
What position? They were shopping for a center with the MLE.
Nesterovic, Mohammed, and Oberto were also brought in post-DRob.
Again, you are assuming perfect foresight and the Spurs not trying to address needs today. Plus it wasn't even settled that Scola would be able to get out of his deal, or that he wouldn't just re-up with Tau.
You said they were entirely responsible, which is absurd.so I guess all the FO people that have left the organization had nothing to do with it.
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