George Hill is a waste of time

[DMX7]

Because Hill is huge bust and Chalmers is NBA-proven.

"Because Hill is huge bust"

Yes.

"and Chalmers is NBA-proven."

I said more proven. Winning a Division I National Championship on a team with just one first round pick is just one of many facts that makes him more proven.

And then of course we have the 20/20 hindsight internets GMs.

WHAT?! More than one person has said that this pick was a stretch and to go with someone else the second it was made... Not using hindsight.

[Marcus Bryant]

WHAQHTHT?!!

I was speaking in general. Specifically, regarding Hill, Spurs fans are being their premature y selves.

[oligarchy]

"Because Hill is huge bust"
Yes.

Wow. What a huge proclamation to make after 2 summer league games. His shot is off, but apparently his elbow isn't quite right. He has shown he can get the rim. He may also be having a hard time finishing, but he is at least drawing fouls. He shows he is an adequate defender and above average rebounder for his position.

He is also trying to transition from SG to PG, so I think it's going to take more than two games to develop or even the whole summer league.

[DPG21920]

The one thing I love about Hill so far, is that he seems to be even keel. He has that quiet confidence and drive factor. We will see.

[jayc23]

ummm Hilll turned down Florida who won 2 national championships after that... and should have been an All-American in High school was leading scorer in the nation

[tav1]

Hill is getting killed by more than just a few on here: in today's chat David Thorpe said that only Joe Alexander was having a worse summer league, draft express described his play as "decent at best" and TrueHoop awarded him with the single worst performance of the SL, so far, for yesterday's stinker.

I think it's all overblown. Hill looks pretty good to me, and should be a rotation guy in time. His inability to finish around the rim is my only major concern. Whether or not he was the correct selection (Greene, Arthur, Chalmers and CDR) at 26 is something we won't know for awhile. But he's definately gonna stick in the NBA.

[jayc23]

This guy hasn't proved anything against real compe ion. If I were to go 0-10 with 5 turnovers a night after going 2-9, then would you really just say I'll be better once I start playing NBA compe ion? NO! What he did in college doesn't mean jack... playing against rec league caliber players.

George Hill is a simple case of the Spurs trying to find a diamond in the rough when they could have played in smart and taken a more proven and better athlete in Chalmers.


If Spurs hadn't already wasted their first round pick on him, Hill probably wouldn't be making this team.

YOU STUPID, ILLITERATE TRICK , Hill has shredded lottery picks in camps and in AAU back in high school.. he put himself on the map at pre-draft camp... WHAT DID THEY DO AT PRE DRAFT CAMP? SCRIM... WHAT DO THEY DO IN SUMMER LEAGUE... SCRIM... IF YOU THINK THE ONLY COMPE ION HILL HAS EVER FACED IS IUPUI... you really are the most ignorant POS on the planet.. do a little research if you wanna be a E-GM talent evaluater

[SenorSpur]

Why did they draft a small SG for a back-up point guard position? That's a transformation very, very few players make. If you want to try it, don't waste a first round pick on it. That's what the second round is for.

It is a fact that converting a college-level SG to a PG is indeed a risky proposition. Devin Harris is an example that readily comes to mind and he's faring well - though he struggled his first couple of seasons.

While it does take time for most, this kid Hill, seemingly has the right at ude and ap ude to get it done. On top of that, Hill will have the benefit of an established, structured offense, good coaching and great players around him.

[Solid D]

[The Franchise]

YOU STUPID, ILLITERATE TRICK , Hill has shredded lottery picks in camps and in AAU back in high school.. he put himself on the map at pre-draft camp... WHAT DID THEY DO AT PRE DRAFT CAMP? SCRIM... WHAT DO THEY DO IN SUMMER LEAGUE... SCRIM... IF YOU THINK THE ONLY COMPE ION HILL HAS EVER FACED IS IUPUI... you really are the most ignorant on the planet.. do a little research if you wanna be a E-GM talent evaluater

[hater]

Hill is on the cover or NBA.com right now. any thoughts sequ?

[tlongII]

YOU STUPID, ILLITERATE TRICK , Hill has shredded lottery picks in camps and in AAU back in high school.. he put himself on the map at pre-draft camp... WHAT DID THEY DO AT PRE DRAFT CAMP? SCRIM... WHAT DO THEY DO IN SUMMER LEAGUE... SCRIM... IF YOU THINK THE ONLY COMPE ION HILL HAS EVER FACED IS IUPUI... you really are the most ignorant POS on the planet.. do a little research if you wanna be a E-GM talent evaluater

Actually they do very little scrimmaging at pre-draft camp. It's mostly drills.

[spurman20]

Hill is getting killed by more than just a few on here: in today's chat David Thorpe said that only Joe Alexander was having a worse summer league, draft express described his play as "decent at best" and TrueHoop awarded him with the single worst performance of the SL, so far, for yesterday's stinker.

I think it's all overblown. Hill looks pretty good to me, and should be a rotation guy in time. His inability to finish around the rim is my only major concern. Whether or not he was the correct selection (Greene, Arthur, Chalmers and CDR) at 26 is something we won't know for awhile. But he's definately gonna stick in the NBA.

Lets hope he is a quick study, the hardest thing to do is trans for a college SG to Pg in pros. He is not looking for his shot unless he is left wide open and is tryn to force things to prove he can be a PG.

Given time I think he will be Ok, I think he comes out tonight and lights it up. Be his D has been very good, Im sure that was a major consideration in drafting him. He could be that seals guy we have lacked.

[VaSpursFan]

Actually they do very little scrimmaging at pre-draft camp. It's mostly drills.

they scrimmage too. that's how players drive their stock up. george's stock went up because he had solid scrimmages.

[oligarchy]

Actually they do very little scrimmaging at pre-draft camp. It's mostly drills.

Oh, they don't?

2008 NBA PRE-DRAFT CAMP SCHEDULE

Tuesday, May 27: 6:00 PM Drills

Wednesday, May 28: 9:00 AM Drills, 11:00 AM Games, 5:00 PM Games, 6:30 PM Games

Thursday, May 29: 9:00 AM Drills, 11:00 AM Games, 5:00 PM Games, 6:30 PM Games

Friday, May 30: 9:15 AM Games, 11:15 AM Games, 1:15 PM Games

[Ocotillo]

Folks, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's give the kid a break here.

If the coaching staff sees enough in this kid to exude patience and give him some leeway, then we fans should do the same. It's only his second summer league game. The kid is not going to become Tony Parker over a matter of a few months.

I agree but was laughing to myself thinking about what if Coach Bud actually had been quoted as saying:

"This guy has bust written all over him. What was Pop thinking? Is he out of his friggin' mind? Damn if we had someone in the front office with half of Sequ's ability to evaluate talent we'd be winning in the even years too."

[jimo2305]

smh.. and we coulda had chalmers..

[Marco]

Chalmers is so good they didn't make him a first round pick.

[The Franchise]

Lets hope he is a quick study, the hardest thing to do is trans for a college SG to Pg in pros. He is not looking for his shot unless he is left wide open and is tryn to force things to prove he can be a PG.

Given time I think he will be Ok, I think he comes out tonight and lights it up. Be his D has been very good, Im sure that was a major consideration in drafting him. He could be that seals guy we have lacked.

Couldn't have been put any better. The kid is making a transition to the most difficult position to learn in basketball, and taking the lumps he is supposed to take in order to learn, and get better.

[jacobdrj]

It's been used since at least the 3rd Century AD. Although the popularity of certain names rises and ebbs over time, the Social Security Administration statistics show that in the US, George continues to be a standard name (Top 150 or so).

As people born since 1980 might say, you just inflicted yourself with self-pwnage.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/

Popularity of a Name
July 16, 2008
Background information

Similar male names for births in 2007 Name Rank
George 147
Joe 403
Joel 123
Joey 542
Jorge 128
Jose 35

Popularity of the male name George
Year of birth - Rank
2007 147
2006 152
2005 139
2004 146
2003 138
2002 131
2001 129
2000 130
1999 123
1998 125
1997 121
1996 118
1995 115
1994 110
1993 104
1992 95
1991 87
1990 79
1989 79
1988 78
1987 76
1986 74
1985 72
1984 68
1983 65
1982 63
1981 61
1980 60
Note: Rank 1 is the most popular, rank 2 is the next most popular, and so forth. Name data are from Social Security card applications for births that occurred in the United States.

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It ebbs over time. Yet, I have no contemporaries (nobody in my classes, no people from my neighborhood my age) with that name. I am aware of its historical significance, but notice how it has been falling so steadily...
I just don't hear that name on the under-25 crowd much, not until this post...

[honestfool84]

sequspur, you really are one son of a .



what an asshole.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

http://www.athens2008.fiba.com/pages...icsRoundID=ALL


Don't worry one day soon he will save Spurs.

[objective]

lol

KBP is my favorite poster!

[The Franchise]

The Greek T-mac will put the Spurs on his back. Hey that rhymes!!!!

[DMX7]

At least George Hill is rebounding the ball nicely. Of course there should be a few "extra" opportunities when you're shooting 8% from the field.

George Hill: