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    Spurs fans never learn.
    nice take... you want to expand? you want to declare george hill...mr. 2 for 100 a good player?

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    nice take... you want to expand? you want to declare george hill...mr. 2 for 100 a good player?
    Fair enough, but let's turn it around. I challenge you to comb through these summer league games and find some steals and busts. And so you know, I'm hoping for Hill's success (despite his obviously dismal performance thus far), but I'm also gonna reserve final judgement until AT LEAST next year's All-Star break.

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    The last LV SL game is tomorrow right? When does the RMR start?

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    If Kirk Heinrich can become an NBA point guard, then Hill has a chance. Hopefully he can slough off this funk and start hooking up Ian and James with easy monster jams

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    You really want a 6'2 shooting guard?

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    Fukin , we should of drafted Mario Chalmers instead. There's talk he might be the starting PG for Miami that's how good he is. It looks like we have to deal with the fukin Vaughn again.

    THE SPURS FRONT OFFICE IS A FUKIN JOKE AND ITS TIME THEY GET HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE FUKIN ACTIONS!

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    I think the project is to have four players listed as guards all capable to play the point...and to defend. Parker, Manu, Mason and Hill are, obviously, the four I'm talking about...all good (o.k., not exceptional) ball handlers and decent or more than decent defenders.

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    true that

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    You really want a 6'2 shooting guard?
    Exactly. What would be the point in that? He's too small to play that position.

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    In the spirit of the le of the thread....

    "All who don't actually read and consider all the information about a player before speaking are a waste of time."

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    You missed the point. It wasn't a comparison to Devin Harris. I merely brought up the example to illustrate how the conversion process takes time. If I recall correctly, Devin was in his 3rd or 4th year before he began to show promise. Of course, his stunted development can be attributed to the maniacal coaching stranglehold of Avery.
    In fairness, I expanded on your Harris comparison so it was probably more a criticism of my take.

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    You can't really argue the point. The guy is not good. Period.
    How can you say he's not good? After 2 summer league games?


    When did the summer league become so important? This is the time where the guy gets the chance to play PG and learn the Spurs system.

    I could see if Hill had already played one regular season in the NBA before the spoiled Spurs fans started judging him.

    Oh no!!!! Not spoiled Spurs fans!! Let's give him two summer league games and write he's a bust. He sucks! The Spurs shouldn't have drafted him!

    Absolutely Amazing!!

    Also, for those who think he is going to the Toros next season. That ain't happening!!! Pop has pretty much given him the back PG position. Even if Vaughn gets more minutes early in the regular season.

    Can we give this guy a chance....when he plays in the regular season with the team (Tim, Tony, & Manu) and against regular NBA compe ion.

    I know that might be too much to ask from spoiled Spurs fans. But one can always hope!!

    Yikes!!

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    If Jacque Vaughn made it to the NBA, I'm sure he will.

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    If Jacque Vaughn made it to the NBA, I'm sure he will.
    no !!! and we all know that JV couldn't shoot when he came into the league.

    we should all reserve judgment until Hill goes through training camp. i think he'll be fine in the spurs system because pop believes in him. playing in the summer league which is akin to a glorified playground game doesn't really tell anyone much. but i can see that he is working on the things that Pop wants him to work on. he's thinking too much about what he needs to do that he struggles with the things he's good at like scoring. he'll come around. once he figures it all out, i see him being a decent player. , his rebounding alone is impressive!

    it's mind boggling that many Spurs fans are putting the gun to the temple over someone who is going to be a back-up PG...WTF??? he's still an upgrade over JV. The kid has solid handles and he gets after it on D. and once he rediscovers his knack for scoring, he will be fine.

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    You really want a 6'2 shooting guard?
    You really want a 6'2" shooting guard to be your point guard?

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    You really want a 6'2" shooting guard to be your point guard?
    It's worked out rather well the last seven seasons.

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    no !!! and we all know that JV couldn't shoot when he came into the league.

    we should all reserve judgment until Hill goes through training camp. i think he'll be fine in the spurs system because pop believes in him. playing in the summer league which is akin to a glorified playground game doesn't really tell anyone much. but i can see that he is working on the things that Pop wants him to work on. he's thinking too much about what he needs to do that he struggles with the things he's good at like scoring. he'll come around. once he figures it all out, i see him being a decent player. , his rebounding alone is impressive!

    it's mind boggling that many Spurs fans are putting the gun to the temple over someone who is going to be a back-up PG...WTF??? he's still an upgrade over JV. The kid has solid handles and he gets after it on D. and once he rediscovers his knack for scoring, he will be fine.

    Newsflash! : Jacque Vaughn still can't shoot! Although Vaughn sucks he at least played against top-notch talent at KU.

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    It's worked out rather well the last seven seasons.
    Tony Parker is a point guard. No question about that. He's a scoring point guard, but a point guard nonetheless.

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    Fukin , we should of drafted Mario Chalmers instead. There's talk he might be the starting PG for Miami that's how good he is. It looks like we have to deal with the fukin Vaughn again.

    THE SPURS FRONT OFFICE IS A FUKIN JOKE AND ITS TIME THEY GET HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE FUKIN ACTIONS!
    Oh look who came back. Have fun slitting your wrists over yesterday's game?

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    Tony Parker is not a SG. He's a scoring point guard and with pretty decent playmaking skills.

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    How can you say he's not good? After 2 summer league games?


    When did the summer league become so important? This is the time where the guy gets the chance to play PG and learn the Spurs system.

    I could see if Hill had already played one regular season in the NBA before the spoiled Spurs fans started judging him.

    Oh no!!!! Not spoiled Spurs fans!! Let's give him two summer league games and write he's a bust. He sucks! The Spurs shouldn't have drafted him!

    Absolutely Amazing!!

    Also, for those who think he is going to the Toros next season. That ain't happening!!! Pop has pretty much given him the back PG position. Even if Vaughn gets more minutes early in the regular season.

    Can we give this guy a chance....when he plays in the regular season with the team (Tim, Tony, & Manu) and against regular NBA compe ion.

    I know that might be too much to ask from spoiled Spurs fans. But one can always hope!!

    Yikes!!
    He sucked hard in a summer league game. Summer league does not even come close to the intensity and talent level involved in an actual NBA game. It's not a good sign and can't really be spun to look like it either. Unless he was injured or sick or something and we didn't know.

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    Newsflash! : Jacque Vaughn still can't shoot! Although Vaughn sucks he at least played against top-notch talent at KU.
    the point you're trying to make is?????

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    He sucked hard in a summer league game. Summer league does not even come close to the intensity and talent level involved in an actual NBA game. It's not a good sign and can't really be spun to look like it either. Unless he was injured or sick or something and we didn't know.
    summer league is nothing but an nba pick-up game. the true test of a players talent is when they are put into a system. there really isn't much structure to the summer league games offensively so it's hard to guage a player's performance, especially as they transition into a new role. let the kid get through training camp and see what he does in the pre-season. even though he has confidence issues with his shot now, he's doing other things like rebounding and getting after it on d, and trying to get to the free throw line. that's refreshing to see because he understands his capabilities and limitations at this point in time.

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    Everything is there for Hill except his shot.

    Seriously, RELAX.

    Hill will start knocking down his shot come training camp.

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    If Hill does not find his shot he will not bring much more than what Vaughn already brings. So it will be hard for him to become backup PG.

    I am ok with Vaughn, he is not the reason why we lost in the playoffs. If I remember correctly Vaughn made most of his open shots in the playoffs.

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