No Howard, No Artest
They got lucky with low value for the Kidd trade and they think they can do it again?
can we give them howard and stack for artest and garcia?
Starters
Kidd
Wright
Artest
Nowitzki
Damp
Bench
Terry
Garcia
Green
Bass
Diop
Not a bad squad at all.
or if they dont wanna give up Garcia, then I will take Salmons. hes a very solid player as well, and plays a VERY similar style to Josh Howard (not quite as talented though), but knows his place and that he is a role player.
I would give up howard and keep bass
dallas needs to take the chance with ron
kidd is not getting any younger
he plays well you might be a le contender
without ron dallas has no shot at a le
Josh Howard better be included in this deal. Stack/Bass wont be enough to get it done. Let Howard be the Kings problem. Howard not being a 4th quarter player is enough reason to kick his ass off of this team. Add in the fact that he has a low iq, short temper, etc etc. Howard is talented but what you see is what you will get. Artest,while a bigger risk, will at least bring something in the 4th quarter and is that lockdown defender the Mavs desperatly need. Bass needs to stay on the team. Outside of Dirk, he was one of the big standouts in the playoffs.
Is this a poem?
If the Mavericks can trade J-Ho straight up for Artest, that would be one of a trade for the Mavs. Mavs would get a better player and I think Artest makes less money. If u are Sac you get rid of Artest for a good player. Dallas would get better end of that trade.
This isn't new at all like Real GM is making it to be.
In fact in today's column Marc Stein writes that the Mavs TRIED that offer and it didn't convince the Kings at all.
So if anything the talks are dead because the Mavs don't wanna give up on Howard just yet. I would hate giving up on Bass too, he is such a deal with the contract that he has.
LMAO. Artest's ballhogging is just what Kidd needs to make that offense work.
It's time to give up on Howard. He isnt going to cut it here. The guy is a liability in the 4th. Why hang onto a low iq short tempered player who is scared as to score in the 4th quarter? That is what Howard is and what he will always be. He pissed away some of that talent. Howard's ass has to go. He just isnt the guy we need him to be to take pressure off of Dirk. Instead all he does is put more pressure on Dirk and forcing guys like Stack/Terry to really pick up the slack which they can only do so much of.
Amen to that!
Trade Josh for Ron straight up!
how about j-how and stack for artest and garcia?
Let's get it done!
I gave J-Ho 3yrs. to play better in 3rd & 4th Qtrs. Now I'm done with him.
Giving up Howard for Artest would be stupid. Maybe Wright/Bass would be a good enough package for that headcase.
How is Artest that much of an upgrade over Josh Howard? Pretty lateral move if you ask me.
Artest would have put up more than 12 ppg in the playoffs while locking somebody down. Pretty much a 30 yard td pass if you ask me.
He's a blackhole so I would expect him to find some way of scoring more than 12 points while taking 20 shots. We got a new coach so I expect an inspired Josh Howard this year if we don't screw it up for this headcase.
Artest, when not acting like a hole, is a great player.
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