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    I know it will be matched, I'm not sad about that.

    Mason better live up to the expectations of Pop and R.C., because I think Kelenna's the better player and that an offer at or close to the MLE right when all the Davis stuff broke could have gotten him away from GS.
    Got any proof to back that up?

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    Got any proof to back that up?
    Which part?

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    If the Spurs wanted Azubuike, looks like they could have had him. For whatever reasons, Mason genuinely appeared to have been the Maggette fallback option. Why, exactly? I'm not sure but hopefully the Spurs are right about this one. Giving Azubuike something like a two-year, $10M would have been almost impossible for the Warriors to match.

    If Azubuike ends up a much better player than Mason, I'm sure Spurs fans won't let RC live that one down.

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    He was not going to join us; we could not land him with only LLE kind of money...

    What if he was promised Barry's spots in the HEB commercials? Maybe he'd like being a mango.

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    If Azubuike ends up a much better player than Mason, I'm sure Spurs fans won't let RC live that one down.
    If a 2 year MLE contract would have sealed the deal, I will have officially lost faith in the Spurs F.O.. I still think the Warriors would match just because he would make a contender even better.

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    If Azubuike ends up a much better player than Mason, I'm sure Spurs fans won't let RC live that one down.
    The guy drafted Ginobili and Parker years ago. He deserves to be blameless for everything thereafter. Give him a break.

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    The guy drafted Ginobili and Parker years ago. He deserves to be blameless for everything thereafter. Give him a break.


    It really sucks spurs didn't use their MLE to snag this guy, Kelenna is a future all-star caliber small forward and would have solved the spurs' swingman dilemna. He's a ferocious rebounder and has a knack for scoring around the rim with putbacks, drives, and slam dunks. Tremendously athletic.

    I'd have felt 100x better going into this next season had they signed Kelenna, and drafted Chalmers as a backup to Parker rather than Hill

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    Nothing to cry about yet. I expect the Warriors are planning to match the offer. At least I think they would.

    If they don't match then that would be a blow to the Spurs. Kelenna is a much better player than Roger Mason IMO.
    kelenna has a better upside, but he's actually proven less on the court than mason to date.

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    kelenna has a better upside, but he's actually proven less on the court than mason to date.
    The numbers from last year are very similar.. the advantage Mason gives you is better ballhandling, assists, and 3pt shooting% / FT%.. but Kelenna almost doubled his ft attempts which makes up for that, and more than doubles his rebounds per game.

    They have both "proven" about the same IMO, but your right - both have upside, but Kelenna's ceiling is higher

    G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
    RM 80 9 21.4 0.443 0.398 0.873 0.2 1.4 1.6 1.7 0.5 0.2 0.86 1.80 9.1
    KA 81 17 21.4 0.445 0.364 0.717 1.3 2.7 4.0 0.9 0.6 0.4 0.72 2.00 8.5

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    I thought Azubuike is as good on defense as Bowen on offense.

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    Kelenna is a future all-star caliber small forward
    Wow! he's getting better by the post. If he's that good, it seems a safe bet the Warriors will match the offer.

    I like Azubuike's game, but I'm glad the Spurs didn't tie up their MLE money to try and sign him.

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    azbuike is nice but he's comparable to mason and mason is a better defender which will always win over pop.

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    azbuike is nice but he's comparable to mason and mason is a better defender which will always win over pop.
    Its hard to compare the two.. they both bring different things in terms of defense. All in all I think they are pretty equal.

    Mason has good lateral quickness, he is going to be able to keep in front of
    most point guards and shooting guards fairly well while Azubuike is bigger and would most likely end up on the larger 2's and 3's where his length and hops would aid him more than quick feet. Mason's quickness and fast hands will help him get steals and force turnovers, while Azubuike's length and hops will help rebound the ball and block shots.

    The question to ask is not "Which dude is better"? But, "Which type of defender do the spurs need on their team"? I think you could make a case for either one at this point, especially if Hill doesn't pan out as Parker's backup.

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    Its hard to compare the two.. they both bring different things in terms of defense. All in all I think they are pretty equal.

    Mason has good lateral quickness, he is going to be able to keep in front of
    most point guards and shooting guards fairly well while Azubuike is bigger and would most likely end up on the larger 2's and 3's where his length and hops would aid him more than quick feet. Mason's quickness and fast hands will help him get steals and force turnovers, while Azubuike's length and hops will help rebound the ball and block shots.

    The question to ask is not "Which dude is better"? But, "Which type of defender do the spurs need on their team"? I think you could make a case for either one at this point, especially if Hill doesn't pan out as Parker's backup.
    mason is better for the spurs defensive scheme which is all about staying in front of your man and/or funneling him into the bigs. good defense is not solely about getting steals and blocking shots. good d is what bowen does, stay in front of your man and make him take tough, contested shots without fouling. given this, i think mason's defense is better for the spurs.

    it's a moot point anyway since mason is signed and kelenna is on his way to the clippers

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    So since the Warriors matched the offersheet, does that mean the Spurs made the right decision not to go after him?

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    So since the Warriors matched the offersheet, does that mean the Spurs made the right decision not to go after him?
    yes, it does mean they made the correct decision.

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    The Warriors match!?

    Wow.

    They are overly stockpiled at the 2/3. There has to be a trade happening.

    Spurs need to try and get Jax back!

    Wait, are they still signing Evans?

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    So since the Warriors matched the offersheet, does that mean the Spurs made the right decision not to go after him?
    Smart move by the Spurs. Maybe they knew they'd match.

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    The Warriors match!?

    Wow.

    They are overly stockpiled at the 2/3. There has to be a trade happening.

    Spurs need to try and get Jax back!

    Wait, are they still signing Evans?
    Evans might be going back on the market. He never actually signed, it was an oral agreement. Too bad Big Nellie and Cubes are on such bad terms. The Mavs have a gaping hole the size of Jenna Jameson's vagina at the two-guard spot.

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    Just sign JR Smith. He's got more upside anyways.

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    So since the Warriors matched the offersheet, does that mean the Spurs made the right decision not to go after him?
    I said when we were talking about him as a potential signing that we'd have to pay him the full MLE to get him. Hard to say how that would have turned out, it's more than what LA offered...

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    I said when we were talking about him as a potential signing that we'd have to pay him the full MLE to get him. Hard to say how that would have turned out, it's more than what LA offered...
    REALLY

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    If the Spurs wanted Azubuike, looks like they could have had him. For whatever reasons, Mason genuinely appeared to have been the Maggette fallback option. Why, exactly? I'm not sure but hopefully the Spurs are right about this one. Giving Azubuike something like a two-year, $10M would have been almost impossible for the Warriors to match.

    If Azubuike ends up a much better player than Mason, I'm sure Spurs fans won't let RC live that one down.
    Damn ing Skippy Dude.

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    spurs needed to offer at least 4.5 to get kelena.

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    I said when we were talking about him as a potential signing that we'd have to pay him the full MLE to get him. Hard to say how that would have turned out, it's more than what LA offered...
    Chris Mullin gave Derek Fisher his gigantic contract.


    Let that sink in folks, and then reask the above question, and you know your answer.

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