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    A Denver Post op-ed piece.

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    Faster, Washington! Drill, drill!

    By David Harsanyi
    Article Last Updated: 07/17/2008 10:55:43 PM MDT


    One day Americans are moaning about the harmful impact of cheap oil and the next they're grousing about the harmful impact of expensive oil.

    Which one is it?

    As a disreputable sort, I freely confess to having a fondness for oil. Actually, I have a mild crush on all carbon-emitting fuels that feed our prosperity. But I'm especially fond of cheap oil. For many years, those who spread apocalyptic global-warming scenarios have warned me that a collective national sacrifice was needed to save the world.

    One option, we were told, was to make gas artificially expensive, forcing our ignorant, energy-gobbling neighbors to alter their destructive habits.

    Well, here we are. At $4 a gallon for gas, we already have a flailing economy. Isn't it glorious? And isn't it exactly what many environmentalists desired?

    The problem is that there is no feasible "alternative" fuel that can haul food from farms to cities, produce affordable electricity for your plasma TV and drive your kids to school. Not yet. It can happen, of course, but only (to pinch a word from enlightened grocery shoppers) organically.

    The problem is that when "green" fantasies crash onto the shores of economic reality (as they did with corn-based ethanol), we all suffer.

    Don't worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they'll have a bounty of energy options. They promise. But no oil shale. No clean coal. No nuclear power. And definitely no more oil.

    They will not enable your revolting, inefficient lifestyle. In the short-term, offshore drilling, especially, is a pie-in-the-sky fairy tale. Unlike, say, pond s and hydrogen fuel packs.

    On the bright side, it seems that reality is beginning to overtake fantasy. This week, Newt Gingrich's American Solutions for Winning the Future group delivered 1.3 million signatures to Congress, demanding that Washington allow more drilling. A recent Zogby International polls shows 74 percent of likely voters support offshore drilling in U.S. coastal waters, and 59 percent favor drilling for oil in the tundra of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    There are few issues in America that offer this kind of impressive "unity." But apparently when unity doesn't align with left-wing orthodoxy, we need more "leadership" to explain why we're wrong.

    Presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama called offshore drilling a "gimmick." According to other Democrats, prices would not be affected for five years and oil companies probably would not use the leases anyway.

    If oil giants won't dig, it surely can't hurt to allow leasing. Who knows? They may.

    As for waiting? Well, rest assured an increase in domestic oil supply will involve a lot less waiting than the emergence of switchgrass as a viable alternative.

    More importantly, oil is a traded commodity and, as everyone knows, the price can fluctuate for a number of reasons beyond supply.

    Take President Bush's ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

    So why can't Americans look forward to more domestic oil? Well, because carbon is bad for you. Because countless Democrats believe that high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction.

    For many, environmental concerns outweigh the economic well-being of citizens. For some, the migratory paths of caribou trump your selfish habit of heating and cooling your home.

    No, drilling isn't "the answer." Yet, the potential positives from increasing domestic supply outweigh any concerns of the opposition. Certainly any they can talk about in public.

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    A Denver Post op-ed piece.

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    Faster, Washington! Drill, drill!

    By David Harsanyi
    Article Last Updated: 07/17/2008 10:55:43 PM MDT


    One day Americans are moaning about the harmful impact of cheap oil and the next they're grousing about the harmful impact of expensive oil.

    Which one is it?

    As a disreputable sort, I freely confess to having a fondness for oil. Actually, I have a mild crush on all carbon-emitting fuels that feed our prosperity. But I'm especially fond of cheap oil. For many years, those who spread apocalyptic global-warming scenarios have warned me that a collective national sacrifice was needed to save the world.

    One option, we were told, was to make gas artificially expensive, forcing our ignorant, energy-gobbling neighbors to alter their destructive habits.

    Well, here we are. At $4 a gallon for gas, we already have a flailing economy. Isn't it glorious? And isn't it exactly what many environmentalists desired?

    The problem is that there is no feasible "alternative" fuel that can haul food from farms to cities, produce affordable electricity for your plasma TV and drive your kids to school. Not yet. It can happen, of course, but only (to pinch a word from enlightened grocery shoppers) organically.

    The problem is that when "green" fantasies crash onto the shores of economic reality (as they did with corn-based ethanol), we all suffer.

    Don't worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they'll have a bounty of energy options. They promise. But no oil shale. No clean coal. No nuclear power. And definitely no more oil.

    They will not enable your revolting, inefficient lifestyle. In the short-term, offshore drilling, especially, is a pie-in-the-sky fairy tale. Unlike, say, pond s and hydrogen fuel packs.

    On the bright side, it seems that reality is beginning to overtake fantasy. This week, Newt Gingrich's American Solutions for Winning the Future group delivered 1.3 million signatures to Congress, demanding that Washington allow more drilling. A recent Zogby International polls shows 74 percent of likely voters support offshore drilling in U.S. coastal waters, and 59 percent favor drilling for oil in the tundra of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    There are few issues in America that offer this kind of impressive "unity." But apparently when unity doesn't align with left-wing orthodoxy, we need more "leadership" to explain why we're wrong.

    Presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama called offshore drilling a "gimmick." According to other Democrats, prices would not be affected for five years and oil companies probably would not use the leases anyway.

    If oil giants won't dig, it surely can't hurt to allow leasing. Who knows? They may.

    As for waiting? Well, rest assured an increase in domestic oil supply will involve a lot less waiting than the emergence of switchgrass as a viable alternative.

    More importantly, oil is a traded commodity and, as everyone knows, the price can fluctuate for a number of reasons beyond supply.

    Take President Bush's ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

    So why can't Americans look forward to more domestic oil? Well, because carbon is bad for you. Because countless Democrats believe that high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction.

    For many, environmental concerns outweigh the economic well-being of citizens. For some, the migratory paths of caribou trump your selfish habit of heating and cooling your home.

    No, drilling isn't "the answer." Yet, the potential positives from increasing domestic supply outweigh any concerns of the opposition. Certainly any they can talk about in public.
    He fails to mention that Oil Co's are the ones not drilling, not Congress. States have actually been leasing out land for them to drill, they're just not doing it.

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    He fails to mention that Oil Co's are the ones not drilling, not Congress. States have actually been leasing out land for them to drill, they're just not doing it.

    Then why did Bush have to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling?

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    "high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction"

    High prices through fuel/heating taxes has worked, for 10+ years, to reduce demand and increase conservation in other industrial countries. Low prices in USA means 2% of the world's population consumes, wastefully, 24% of the oil.

    Without high oil prices, US on/off shore drilling wouldn't be justifiable. Explains why the US oilcos have not explored/drilled in the 38M acres of leases when prices were low.

    The only and still-secret Repug/neo-c*nt National Energy Policy was invade Iraq for cheap(er than US) oil.

    OBL gave the Repugs a smoke screen for their GWOT/Iraq lies.

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    "why did Bush have to lift the moratorium"

    US oilcos control the US govt. dubya and head are oil- s employed to enrich the oilcos. Lifting the ban means only that the govt control of OCS is now given to the oilcos, nothing more. One of dubya's probably several parting gifts to the corps.

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    "high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction"

    High prices through fuel/heating taxes has worked, for 10+ years, to reduce demand and increase conservation in other industrial countries. Low prices in USA means 2% of the world's population consumes, wastefully, 24% of the oil.

    Without high oil prices, US on/off shore drilling wouldn't be justifiable. Explains why the US oilcos have not explored/drilled in the 38M acres of leases when prices were low.

    The only and still-secret Repug/neo-c*nt National Energy Policy was invade Iraq for cheap(er than US) oil.

    OBL gave the Repugs a smoke screen for their GWOT/Iraq lies.

    Hey dumb , the two countries that supply the US with the most oil are Canada and Mexico (in that order).

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    "why did Bush have to lift the moratorium"

    US oilcos control the US govt. dubya and head are oil- s employed to enrich the oilcos. Lifting the ban means only that the govt control of OCS is now given to the oilcos, nothing more. One of dubya's probably several parting gifts to the corps.

    My name is boutons, and I approve this message.


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    Hey dumb , the two countries that supply the US with the most oil are Canada and Mexico (in that order).
    it's not about supplying the US.

    are there any US oil cos in iraq?

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    Then why did Bush have to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling?
    Because the value of an Oil Co is not based solely on the amount of Oil they pump. It's also based on the amount of places they have rights to explore. That's why none of these companies can be bothered to wait until Iraq is stabilized to jump in there. Once they're guaranteed rights to a parcel of land in the area, even before they find or pump a drop of oil, their value as a company goes up. Right now they're sitting on million of acres of land that have not ever seen drilling. And they're going to keep hoarding for as much land as we're willing to give them.

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    it's not about supplying the US.

    are there any US oil cos in iraq?
    Yes there is. Exxon was in the process of acquiring a parcel of land there (if they didn't already done so). We had a thread not long ago talking about that.

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    Just a coincidence that Bush lifts the moratorium on offshore drilling and the next day oil drops by $15-16 dollars a barrel?

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    Yes there is. Exxon was in the process of acquiring a parcel of land there (if they didn't already done so). We had a thread not long ago talking about that.
    you missed the message of my post.

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    Just a coincidence that Bush lifts the moratorium on offshore drilling and the next day oil drops by $15-16 dollars a barrel?
    yeah, without one drop of oil. i don't think you understand the objective of this game.

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    Just a coincidence that Bush lifts the moratorium on offshore drilling and the next day oil drops by $15-16 dollars a barrel?
    Exactly. You play nice for the Oil Co's, they play nice with you.

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    "Just a coincidence"

    the consensus was that Bernanke's doom and gloom Congressional testimony showed the world that the US economy will be on the downslide well into 2009, and probably 2010, depressing demand for oil. Anyione with a few neurons knows that the ban has nothing to do with current oil price movements, and will not affect gas prices in under 10 years, if ever.

    DS, aka, "It's The Economy, Stupid"

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    I watched an hour of C-Span at 1 am this morning. Those idiot dems can't get over Bush and have absolutely no real reason why we can't open up ANWR.


    Oh wells, at least the roads and boat ramps are less crowded!

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    yeah, without one drop of oil. i don't think you understand the objective of this game.
    Thought you might find this 'amusing'

    Ever since the President's Global War on Terror revved up and Iraq was invaded, Hunt Refining has quietly reaped major rewards. In addition to its Pentagon connections, Hunt Refining, too, has tight ties to President Bush.

    by Nick Turse
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    For years, "oil" and "Iraq" couldn't make it into the same sentence in mainstream coverage of the invasion and occupation of that country. Recently, that's begun to change, but "oil" and "the Pentagon" still seldom make the news together.

    Last year, for instance, according to Department of Defense (DoD) do ents, the Pentagon paid more than $70 million to Hunt Refining, an oil company whose corporate affiliate, Hunt Oil, undermined U.S. policy in Iraq. Not that anyone would know it. While the hunt for oil in Iraq is now being increasingly well covered in the mainstream, the Pentagon's hunt for oil remains a subject missing in action. Despite the staggering levels at which the Pentagon guzzles fuel, it's a chronic blind spot in media energy coverage.

    Let's consider the Hunt Oil story in a little more detail, since it offers a striking example of the larger problem. On July 3, 2008, according to the New York Times, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform found that Hunt Oil had pursued "an oil deal with the regional Kurdistan government that ran counter to American policy and undercut Iraq's central government." Despite its officially stated policy of warning companies like Hunt Oil "that they incur risks in signing contracts until Iraq passes an oil law," the State Department in some cases actually encouraged a deal between the "Texas oil company with close ties to President Bush" and Kurdistan that "undercut" Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government in Baghdad.

    Asked if the White House was aware of Hunt Oil's negotiations with Kurdistan's largely autonomous regional government, President Bush's press secretary Dana Perino replied, "I don't know of anybody who was aware of it."

    It turns out that wasn't exactly the truth of the matter. The Times noted that the company's chief executive, "Ray L. Hunt, a close political ally of President Bush, briefed on his contacts with Kurdish officials before the deal was signed." In fact, in a July 2nd letter, Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: "Do ents obtained by the Committee indicate that contrary to the denials of Administration officials, advisors to the President and officials in the State and Commerce Departments knew about Hunt Oil's interest in the Kurdish region months before the contract was executed."


    For the Times, however, the hunt for the story ended with Hunt Oil. No attention was paid to its corporate twin, Hunt Refining, with its own major financial ties to the Pentagon, the President, and the U.S. occupation forces in Iraq. This despite the fact that the company proudly promotes itself as "a significant supplier of jet fuel to the U.S. Department of Defense" in the Southeastern United States.

    And why not be proud? Ever since the President's Global War on Terror revved up and Iraq was invaded, Hunt Refining has quietly reaped major rewards. While the company was a defense contractor back in the 1990s, according to DoD do ents, Hunt did not receive any funds from the Pentagon in 2000 or 2001. From 2002-2004, however, the company began garnering contracts and collected an average of just over $15.5 million a year. And only then did the good times begin to roll. In the last three years, records show that Hunt has taken in increasingly larger sums of taxpayer dollars from the Pentagon -- $39.6 million in 2005, $52.2 million in 2006, and, in 2007, a whopping $70 million. (Hunt Refining did not return telephone or email messages seeking comment for this article.)

    Hunt's largest 2007 Pentagon contract was for the delivery of both aviation turbine fuel and JP-8 jet fuel -- the latter a product used by the Army and Air Force that is very similar to commercial jet fuel. That deal was awarded just months before Hunt Refining and its affiliate Hunt Southland Refining agreed, according to Department of Justice do ents, "to pay a $400,000 civil penalty and spend more than $48.5 million for new and upgraded pollution controls at three refineries" as part of a settlement to resolve "alleged violations of the Clean Air Act."
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    Bambi, lets drill that wide open.

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    'We are the Saudi Arabia of OIL'...



    Bachmann's coffee klatch with the caribou..


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    Bambi, lets drill that wide open.
    These caribou in Prudoe Bay (about 60 mi east of ANWR) seem pretty distressed by the drilling going on there.


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    'We are the Saudi Arabia of OIL'...

    The country we import the most oil from is Canada. In fact, the worlds single largest oil reserve is called the Alberta tar sands. Hmm, Canada has a lot of oil, Alaska is up there by Canada. Hmm, better not drill in Alaska, huh?


    By the way, most of the ANWR coastal plain is a freakin wasteland.

    Here's what most of it looks like in the summer.


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    "why did Bush have to lift the moratorium"

    US oilcos control the US govt. dubya and head are oil- s employed to enrich the oilcos. Lifting the ban means only that the govt control of OCS is now given to the oilcos, nothing more. One of dubya's probably several parting gifts to the corps.
    Does that make Pelosi and Obama even bigger oil s, seeings their policies, should Obama be elected, will only put more money in the pockets of big oil?

    Question..

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    "There he goes again", going partisan and assuming I'm a Dem or Dem supporter.

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    Does that make Pelosi and Obama even bigger oil s, seeings their policies, should Obama be elected, will only put more money in the pockets of big oil?

    Question..
    Could you list those policies? Honest, I haven't heard about them.

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    factcheck.org:

    "Are the Democrats correct in stating that oil companies are leasing 68 million acres in the U.S. that are not being used?"

    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...ting_that.html

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