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thanks Nostradamus
We are not getting him however, so this is all semantics. Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.
thanks Nostradamus
Not to mention that all the rumors say the Kings would require any team in a trade to take on the contract of Kenny Thomas, which the Spurs will not do.
Again, Artest is in the final year of his contract. He's certainly not a commodity you can trust. I see your points and agree with you as far as his abilities on the court and what he can bring every night. In fact, I didn't have an issue with the Spurs chasing him at the Feb trade deadline.
My issue is that hs is in the final year of his contract and has proven to be a rather unpredictable commodity. He simply cannot be trusted. Look at the manner in which he's waffled in the media these past few months - alienating teammates, ownership and even his own agent. Given those paranmeters and distratctions, I wouldn't hedge my bets on him. I'd just a soon take my chances on a raw, soon-to-be emerging talent like Gist. Besides, try putting a package together that the Kings would like.
2 reasons why this will never happen:
1. We have zero tradeable assets
2. We would NEVER take on Thomas' contract.
This is Stein update on Artest, no mention of the Spurs:
After reading on ESPN.com that Ron Artest was planning to represent himself as "my own agent," Artest's long-standing agent Mark Stevens demonstrated that he still has some sway over the mercurial forward. Stevens this week convinced Artest to "get out the media," in Ron-Ron's words, and at least temporarily avoid interviews after a series of e-mails in which Artest voiced his loudest frustrations to date about passing on the chance to opt out of the final year of his Sacramento Kings contract before July 1 and become an unrestricted free agent.
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The Lakers are still the favorites to win the Ron Artest sweepstakes.
It naturally remains to be seen how long Artest's silence will last. I imagine we'll be hearing from him again well before July 25, when Artest is scheduled to join Chicago Bulls forward Joakim Noah and New York Knicks guard Nate Robinson on the ESPN campus in Bristol, Conn., to face the winners of a Wii sweepstakes event. Yet it appears that Kings co-owner Joe Maloof, for the short term, was successful with his rebuke in Tuesday's Sacramento Bee that essentially urged Artest to hush before his ongoing commentary hurt the Kings' attempts to find him a new home.
Fact is, though, that Sacramento likely will continue to attract trade interest in Artest no matter what he says, with Artest down to the final year of his current contract at a very tradeable $7.4 million. Maloof himself acknowledged to ESPN.com on Sunday that "the Lakers do want him" … as do "about six other teams."
Yet the Kings continue to insist that the team that ultimately gets Artest will have to take Kenny Thomas' contract as well. NBA front-office sources say the Mavericks were told several days ago, for example, that an offer of bruising power forward Brandon Bass, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse and $2 million to cover Stackhouse's guarantee in the 2009-10 season would not be enough to reunite Artest with new Mavs coach Rick Carlisle. (Dallas has no interest in a Josh Howard-for-Artest swap in any incarnation.)
The Miami Heat also have liked Artest for some time, but the Heat received the same message from Sacramento that the Lakers got. Unless the Kings budge from their current stance, Miami would have to send over Shawn Marion and absorb Thomas' remaining $16.5 million over the next two seasons to get Artest. Although Thomas' contract wouldn't interfere with the Heat's intent to have cap room to spend in the summer of 2010, it's hard to see the appeal of such a deal for Pat Riley and rookie coach Erik Spoelstra.
Cleveland is another team you can expect to hear linked with Artest, with the Cavaliers possessing numerous options -- Wally Szczerbiak for Artest and Thomas, just to name one -- to join the bidding. It simply depends on how willing the Cavs are to add to their luxury-tax bill. But nothing has happened yet to budge the Lakers from the role of favorites in the Artest sweepstakes, although ESPN.com reported Sunday that -- fond as they are of Artest and confident as they are that they can get the best out of him through Phil Jackson's coaching and Artest's respect for Kobe Bryant -- L.A. is reluctant to part with Lamar Odom in an Artest swap.
That stance, if the Lakers don't relent, almost certainly will force Sacramento to look elsewhere for a trade partner.
The good news for Lakerland dwellers hoping Artest eventually will arrive this summer to address the defense and toughness issues exposed by the Boston Celtics in the NBA Finals: Maloof has shot down the oft-cited theory that the Kings, because of their fierce on-court rivalry with the Lakers early in the decade, are reluctant to make a trade with their divisional neighbors.
"Absolutely not [true]," Maloof said. "We're rivals with the Lakers, but we respect them as an organization. If we can make a move that improves our situation, it doesn't matter who the other team is."
Kings are ing re ed. I know they want to hold out and try and get the best deal here, but they are clearly not in the driver's seat when it comes to Ron Artest. He's a ing head-case and if they think any team is going to give up quality pieces, especially young pieces, for Ron they are nuts. If they think teams are going to take their horribly bloated trash in addition to Ron they are even more nuts.
The longer this holds out the worse it will get for them. Ron Ron's trade value will only plummet the more he opens his mouth.
which is why they told him to shut it
if spurs had more trade bait they would get him
gist for him?
ludden had an article said sprus were intersted in ron but did not have enough trade biat
spurs are intersted in ron
@ the Mavs thinking they could get Artest for Stackhouse and Bass. Though i guess if the Lakers can get Gasol for Kwame Brown anything is possible in the NBA these days....
why is that funny
camby was traded for a second round pick
everyone is
Yes for every other team but not for the Spurs. Stern will move heaven and earth to prevent the Spurs getting into the finals.
+ a HUGE trade exception. We had been talking for weeks now about how cheap Denver's owner is (when discussing signing Smith to an offer sheet) and this only proves it.
The Spurs can't possibly compile as attractive of a trade package as say that of Miami, Dallas or even the Fakers.
The reason Camby was able to be traded for a second round pick was because the Clippers were under the cap by an amount = to or greater than the incoming salary of the player.
Both the Kings and Spurs are over the cap so salaries would have to match. So Gist for Artest would not work.
kings hate lakers
if dallas is afraid to offer josh howard spurs could offer potential as much as them
heat
who is great on the heat
oh wade do you think they will trade him or beasly?
gist has no nba contract right now
kings could agree to pay him as much as ron
To quote Marc Jackson: "C'mon Ducks, You're better than that"gist has no nba contract right now
kings could agree to pay him as much as ron
Well I'm sure we are still interested. Getting him is a different thing all together.
spurs should have traded beno for him
Nope, not happening. They don't want him
replacing the 2nd round by 1st round and adding on Bowen , i think this might work out seriously
Roger Mason plus Bonner and Finley? After that the cupboard is bare.
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