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    Damn, that'll really suck. Could've used him to defend a guy like Diaw....now they'll likely be playing on the same team. We'll see what happens I guess.

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    Barnes is getting waaay too much love on this thread. To date, he's proven nothing!

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    Barnes is getting waaay too much love on this thread. To date, he's proven nothing!
    Read my post about him, I said he will not put the Spurs over the top, but allow us to fill a need, up our D and let us maintain.

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    This is what I have been saying. But as some others pointed out, I do not know that just because they have overload, that they would be willing to "dump" players for just picks.

    If we could land Boone for our TE or for second round picks + cash I would be so happy. I watch pretty much every game for every team and I truly think that Boone was the best out of all those mentioned. He would provide the interior defense, athleticism and rebounding the Spurs need and he is young. If we could somehow manage to get Ian living up to his potential, get Boone and get Tiago in a year or two, our young big men would be very nice.

    Just do not know how much they would be willing to get rid of Boone, Williams or Krstic.
    They have to dump players, you can only have 15 on your roster. They are also not interested in having any contracts go beyond 2010. So they have only two ways to go. Take picks in the future or trade several players for one whos salaries match whos contract ends 2010.

    They are biulding a young core to entice LB to sign with them and to offer Clev a nice package of picks and players to do a sign and trade.

    GM for Jersey has said they dont wanna give Krystic away but hinted if he was offered a good draft pick he would be willint to trade because he knows they cant offer him a long term deal.

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    If we are talking about him, he is not coming...
    My post from earlier on this thread, lol.

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    Read my post about him, I said he will not put the Spurs over the top, but allow us to fill a need, up our D and let us maintain.
    I'm not saying he's ty. I'm just saying our money could be spent more prudently.

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    I'm not being sarcastic: what has Barnes ever proven defensively?

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    I'd take Boone over Krstic and Williams.
    Krystic is the scorer of the bunch a big who can get 15-17ppg and 7-8rpg so I would go with him first.

    Williams is the pot smoking shotblocker that we need if he could put the pipe down. Many believe if he stays clean he is a future allstar.

    Boone is soft, and just an avg defender. Tends to not play hard all the time, but is a balance of scoring, rebounding and can alter shots...not a shot blocker.

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    They have to dump players, you can only have 15 on your roster. They are also not interested in having any contracts go beyond 2010. So they have only two ways to go. Take picks in the future or trade several players for one whos salaries match whos contract ends 2010.

    They are biulding a young core to entice LB to sign with them and to offer Clev a nice package of picks and players to do a sign and trade.

    GM for Jersey has said they dont wanna give Krystic away but hinted if he was offered a good draft pick he would be willint to trade because he knows they cant offer him a long term deal.
    They only have 15 players under contract right now and there future is filled with options that they can either pick up or not for 2010/2011. So they really do not have to get rid of anyone. They can let them play, up their value or use them in sign and trades.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm

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    I'm not saying he's ty. I'm just saying our money could be spent more prudently.
    How? We only have two, ~2M dollar contracts to offer. Who can we get for that money better than Barnes?

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    I'm not being sarcastic: what has Barnes ever proven defensively?
    Barnes is crap, no one wanted him he will be crap in Phx. He wouldnt fit in S.A. I dont know why so many people love this guy. I would much rather have KA from the warriors who only got 3mil pr year than barnes.

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    Krystic is the scorer of the bunch a big who can get 15-17ppg and 7-8rpg so I would go with him first.

    Williams is the pot smoking shotblocker that we need if he could put the pipe down. Many believe if he stays clean he is a future allstar.

    Boone is soft, and just an avg defender. Tends to not play hard all the time, but is a balance of scoring, rebounding and can alter shots...not a shot blocker.
    I disagree. Krstic is the best scorer, however Boone is by far the best rebounder and defender. Look at his numbers. He is not a prolific shot blocker like Williams, but way better overall imo. That is why he started and played way more than Williams.

    We are splitting hairs however, because if we got any of those 3 that combined with Mason would be an "A" of an off-season.

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    How? We only have two, ~2M dollar contracts to offer. Who can we get for that money better than Barnes?
    I should affix an * to the rest of my posts, because this is all moot if we resign KT.

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    Barnes is crap, no one wanted him he will be crap in Phx. He wouldnt fit in S.A. I dont know why so many people love this guy. I would much rather have KA from the warriors who only got 3mil pr year than barnes.
    Thats the point. The Spurs do not have 3M per year to spend. They have 2 contracts for less than 2M. There is a big difference between the vet. min for 1 year and 3M per year for 3 years.

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    I should affix an * to the rest of my posts, because this is all moot if we resign KT.
    Even if we sign KT, we can still sign other FA for our two contracts (MLE/LLE) and Barnes for that money is very solid.

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    They only have 15 players under contract right now and there future is filled with options that they can either pick up or not for 2010/2011. So they really do not have to get rid of anyone. They can let them play, up their value or use them in sign and trades.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm
    If they sign CDR and they just signed dooling and still hold Krystics rights so that is 17. They must have dumped Amrstrong. Thats still 2 more than allowed.

    This is one reason Philli who loves Krystic hasnt made an offer I believe because they know Jersey will have to get rid of someone.

    The FO of Jersey has already hinted at the fact Krystic and at least one other front line player is likely to be gone before training camp starts.

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    He's gone. Time to lock this thread and move on.

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    Even if we sign KT, we can still sign other FA for our two contracts (MLE/LLE) and Barnes for that money is very solid.
    What would the acquisition of Barnes mean for Udoka?

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    If they sign CDR and they just signed dooling and still hold Krystics rights so that is 17. They must have dumped Amrstrong. Thats still 2 more than allowed.

    This is one reason Philli who loves Krystic hasnt made an offer I believe because they know Jersey will have to get rid of someone.

    The FO of Jersey has already hinted at the fact Krystic and at least one other front line player is likely to be gone before training camp starts.
    I could see that happening, but I was just saying that they might not need to get rid of young, talented bigs for just picks. They can use those guys for the future and now and they have value.

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    Thats the point. The Spurs do not have 3M per year to spend. They have 2 contracts for less than 2M. There is a big difference between the vet. min for 1 year and 3M per year for 3 years.
    The spurs had it befor they over paid for Mason. We gave him 3.75pr year.
    They are gonna see who falls thru the cracks and try to scoop them up. But I wouldnt be surprised to see us try to trade for a player.

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    What would the acquisition of Barnes mean for Udoka?
    Same thing it meant for him last year. Gives us another option.

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    I could see that happening, but I was just saying that they might not need to get rid of young, talented bigs for just picks. They can use those guys for the future and now and they have value.
    True, I dont know why they would but it appears that the nets want to get rid of some young guys because they have to many right now.

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    Same thing it meant for him last year. Gives us another option.
    So will Barnes replace Barry?

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    Essentially, except it will be an offense for defense subs ution. Bones handled the ball, Barnes would not, so we would have to have him on the floor with a ball handler. He can shoot ok and get to the rim and finish, so it would not be as if he was totally invisible out there offensively, he just would not initiate the offense, although he does have decent handles.

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    But evidently the Spurs did not think he would fit or he just did not want to play in SA, not sure.

    I have learned that if we talk about someone, that means our F.O. is going the completely different direction, which is why I posted earlier: if we are talking about him, he is not coming!

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