Suns sign Barnes for the minimum

[timvp]

You also have to remember that the Spurs are only offering 2 year deals at the most, like they did with Mason. A lot of free agents are looking for longer contracts.

Did you read the article?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You also have to remember that the Spurs are only offering 2 year deals at the most, like they did with Mason. A lot of free agents are looking for longer contracts.

You suck at reading comprehension.

[Buddy Holly]

Would people be happy with Mo Evans?

[Buddy Holly]

Did you read the article?

[ducks]

Christ, it's the vet minimum people. If they signed him and Pop didn't like him after the fact, they could have just waived him.

I'd come around to giving the FO the benefit of the doubt this summer so far, but this one's a head scratcher.

The whole west coast security blanket thing is overhyped. Does anyone really think he would have turned down the remainder of the MLE that we had left in favor of the veteran minimum deal with Phoenix?

barnes probly thought he could get more touches in suns systle
since it is like gs
and try to cash in next year

[ElNono]

Did you read the article?

Yes,I did. I accidentally clicked post before completing my comment. I updated it now.

[Buddy Holly]

Christ, it's the vet minimum people. If they signed him and Pop didn't like him after the fact, they could have just waived him.

I'd come around to giving the FO the benefit of the doubt this summer so far, but this one's a head scratcher.

The whole west coast security blanket thing is overhyped. Does anyone really think he would have turned down the remainder of the MLE that we had left in favor of the veteran minimum deal with Phoenix?

You have to take into consideration that he said no to SA because of probably playing time, how the Spurs play, etc. Maybe he felt playing with someone like Nash who could possibly make him look better (like he does everyone) would net him a bigger contract next summer.

[DPG21920]

I understand that, but by tomorrow afternoon you will realize a lot of dimwitted folks will have had a meltdown here because the Spurs didn't sign this player.

Everyone is clamoring for another FA, just part of being a fan. I think people are just upset because in their minds, Barnes for the rest of what we had in the MLE would have been a surprise and he could help. Suns getting him for the vet min makes it harder to swallow.

Hopefully some of the other guys in his range will have the same mindset and the Spurs can get someone for that cheap. There is still help out there.

Maybe this also shows that they think Gist can play the 3/4 for us, so they do not need to go after that position?

[Buddy Holly]

You also have to remember that the Spurs are only offering 2 year deals at the most, like they did with Mason. A lot of free agents are looking for longer contracts. They also need some of that money left to lure KT back, and potentially sign the Gist and Tollivers and what not rookies...

What does KT or the rooks have to do with the LLE or remainder of the MLE?

Nothing. That played no part in it. Spurs are not near the lux tax.

[DPG21920]

Would people be happy with Mo Evans?

That is exactly the kind of player I was thinking when writing my last post.

[ElNono]

You suck at reading comprehension.

Not really. It's just not that easy to post with this iPod Touch.

[ss1986v2]

I'd come around to giving the FO the benefit of the doubt this summer so far, but this one's a head scratcher.

The whole west coast security blanket thing is overhyped. Does anyone really think he would have turned down the remainder of the MLE that we had left in favor of the veteran minimum deal with Phoenix?

lets look at it this way: out of all of the other teams in the nba, you dont think someone might have offered more than the vet min over one year? do we really think that was the best offer he received? for example, boston couldnt pony up 2 mil now that posey is gone?

right now, i have a hard time believing that every team in the league passed on barnes and the suns were left to scoop him up for next to nothing. there might be more to this than just who offered the most money.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

barnes probly thought he could get more touches in suns systle
since it is like gs
and try to cash in next year

Yes ducks, I get it. He could have shown off just as much here for 2 million a year as he could in Phoenix.

Or are you saying he will get more touches on a team with Amare, Nash, Gill, Barbosa, and Shaq on it than he would have on SA with Manu, Tony, Tim, and assorted role players?

[ducks]

suns shot in less then 7 seconds
thus get more touches

[DPG21920]

As I was saying, I hope that other players in Barnes range have his mindset of taking 1 year small contracts in hopes of a bigger payday next year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They also need some of that money left to lure KT back, and potentially sign the Gist and Tollivers and what not rookies...

Management has shown a propensity for going up to the lux tax. It isn't a concern this summer, even if some team offers Kurt the full MLE.

[DPG21920]

suns shot in less then 7 seconds
thus get more touches

Dude, you realize that Dantoni is gone right?

[Buddy Holly]

Yes ducks, I get it. He could have shown off just as much here for 2 million a year as he could in Phoenix.

Or are you saying he will get more touches on a team with Amare, Nash, Gill, Barbosa, and Shaq on it than he would have on SA with Manu, Tony, Tim, and assorted role players?

Nash nearly made Gordon Giricek look decent for the short time he was there. Barnes probably sees this as playing on a high profile team where he can possibly boast his stats with playing time and Nash so to have an end result of a big pay day next summer.

[ducks]

Dude, you realize that Dantoni is gone right?

suns team is still built fast pace like gs

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

lets look at it this way: out of all of the other teams in the nba, you dont think someone might have offered more than the vet min over one year? do we really think that was the best offer he received? for example, boston couldnt pony up 2 mil now that posey is gone?

Obviously not. Barnes isn't looking for a ring. He's looking to get paid. Probably the only parameter he and his agent were working on was it had to be a one year deal as he's been looking for a longer term deal for quite a while now.

And with where he is at, he would have jumped at 2.1 million for one year from SA instead of the 1.2 he got from Phoenix.

right now, i have a hard time believing that every team in the league passed on barnes and the suns were left to scoop him up for next to nothing. there might be more to this than just who offered the most money.

The only way your scenario makes sense is if there's some under the table deal going on between Phoenix and him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Nash nearly made Gordon Giricek look decent for the short time he was there. Barnes probably sees this as playing on a high profile team where he can possibly boast his stats with playing time and Nash so to have an end result of a big pay day next summer.

That might be valid if D'Antoni were still there. With Terry Porter? Not so much.

[ss1986v2]

Obviously not. Barnes isn't looking for a ring. He's looking to get paid. Probably the only parameter he and his agent were working on was it had to be a one year deal as he's been looking for a longer term deal for quite a while now.

And with where he is at, he would have jumped at 2.1 million for one year from SA instead of the 1.2 he got from Phoenix.



The only way your scenario makes sense is if there's some under the table deal going on between Phoenix and him.

what if he simply wanted to play for the suns over playing for the spurs?

[Buddy Holly]

That might be valid if D'Antoni were still there. With Terry Porter? Not so much.

Nash isn't a great point guard with incredible court vision? Or was that all D'Antoni?

The Suns will still be capable of running and gunning even if Porter turns them into a total half court team (which he won't).

[DPG21920]

suns team is still built fast pace like gs

No it is not anymore. The acquisition of Shaq and losing Coach D will slow them down. Will they look to run, sure sometimes. This will be a different Suns team than you are used to seeing.

[DPG21920]

what if he simply wanted to play for the suns over playing for the spurs?

Bingo. Or like I said, the Spurs may think Gist is better for that spot and they did not make him an offer. I find that hard to believe because Pop likes experience, but it is not unthinkable.