Joe Horn Murderer or Neighbor of the Year?

[peewee's lovechild]

So then let's make it a capital offense. As a matter of fact let's every crime a capital offense. We can kill them all. Steal a car? You get the death penalty. Embezzle money? Straight to Huntsville..

You're doing it again.

You equate the robbing and burglarizing a home with the use of force to embezzlement?

Seriously.

If this struck a nerve because you have family members that making their living ripping off peoples homes and you worry about them being shot, or if you happen to be one of those that enjoys getting a 70% discount on TVs and such from people that steal them from homes, then you're just part of the problem.

Otherwise, it's not that difficult to understand that if you decide to make a living ripping off peoples , you're probably going to get shot. And, you're probably going to die.

[peewee's lovechild]

So, let's use Afro's rationale:

If you see a burglar ripping off a home, go into your house and pretend nothing's happening.

If a burglar comes into your house, offer him a sandwich (and possibly your daughter or wife).

If he runs away from you, wish him a good evening (or good morning, depending on the time of day).

[George Gervin's Afro]

You're doing it again.

You equate the robbing and burglarizing a home with the use of force to embezzlement?

Seriously.

If this struck a nerve because you have family members that making their living ripping off peoples homes and you worry about them being shot, or if you happen to be one of those that enjoys getting a 70% discount on TVs and such from people that steal them from homes, then you're just part of the problem.

Otherwise, it's not that difficult to understand that if you decide to make a living ripping off peoples , you're probably going to get shot. And, you're probably going to die.

Or maybe I value human life more than a flat screen TV.

[DarrinS]

This thread lives on?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So, let's use Afro's rationale:

If you see a burglar ripping off a home, go into your house and pretend nothing's happening.

If a burglar comes into your house, offer him a sandwich (and possibly your daughter or wife).

If he runs away from you, wish him a good evening (or good morning, depending on the time of day).

Or call the cops if you see starngers in someone else's home. Another idea could be to write down the plates of the car in the driveway. I know it's a novel concept. These guys never came into Horn's house so I am not sure why you continually try to make it seem that I am ok with people coming into my house. If people were in Horn's house he had every right to shoot them but they weren't in his house.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Horn shot these guys in the back after they were leaving his neighbor's home. No rape, they weren't in his home he simply shot two people in the back as they were running away.

[George Gervin's Afro]

It's very simple. Horn shot two people who were running from him. In fact there was a cop on scene already to apprehend the burglars but Horn shot them anway. Not only that Horn ignored the 911 operator who explicitely told him not to go outside. But good ol boy Horn said " I am going to kill them" before he ever stepped foot outside. Most of the people who are ok with killing two unarmed guys running away don't want to make burglary a captial offense. They don't want the state to execute these guys but are ok with some yahoo shooting people when he didn't have to.

[peewee's lovechild]

Or maybe I value human life more than a flat screen TV.

But, you value buying a stolen TV over buying a TV from a retail store.

[George Gervin's Afro]

But, you value buying a stolen TV over buying a TV from a retail store.

Well it's good that you have finally admitted that human life means less than a TV. Is that what you teach your kids?

[Spurminator]

How about this?

Joe Horn is neither a murderer nor "Neighbor of the Year."

The burglars did not deserve to die but they put themselves in a position to be harmed by breaking into private property.

Joe Horn did not have to kill them but he did not commit a crime by doing so.

I don't understand why he has to be such a polarizing figure.

[peewee's lovechild]

How about this?

Joe Horn is neither a murderer nor "Neighbor of the Year."

The burglars did not deserve to die but they put themselves in a position to be harmed by breaking into private property.

Joe Horn did not have to kill them but he did not commit a crime by doing so.

I don't understand why he has to be such a polarizing figure.

I agree.

[peewee's lovechild]

Well it's good that you have finally admitted that human life means less than a TV. Is that what you teach your kids?

I'll teach my kids that their lives are much valuable than anyonelse's, including mine.

You'll teach your kids that it's okay to commit crimes because our government should protect them while they're commiting said crimes.

Oh, and you'll teach them that buying "hot" items is so much better than going to a retail store.

[Oh, Gee!!]

So then let's make it a capital offense. As a matter of fact let's every crime a capital offense. We can kill them all. Steal a car? You get the death penalty. Embezzle money? Straight to Huntsville..

you're conflating the inherent dangers (such as getting shot in the back by a homeowner or nosy neighbor) of breaking into homes with the government advocating or imposing penalties for said crime.

[baseline bum]

Or maybe I value human life more than a flat screen TV.

If it's my flat screen TV I just dropped 2G on, you're goddamn right I value it more than the life of someone breaking into my house to steal it from me. If it's my next-door neighbor's flat screen that I know he's been saving forever for, then yes, I value it more than the life of someone who breaks into his house to steal it. It's not like the average person can just go get another big screen tv the day after his gets stolen.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'll teach my kids that their lives are much valuable than anyonelse's, including mine.

You'll teach your kids that it's okay to commit crimes because our government should protect them while they're commiting said crimes.

Oh, and you'll teach them that buying "hot" items is so much better than going to a retail store.

No I'll teach my child that taking a human life is not the first option when dealing with someone who is committing a non viloent crime. If they become aware that someone is burglarizing our neighbors home they shouldn't run out and shoot them while they are running away. Especially if they are told not to by the 911 operator. Instead they should call the cops and let them do their jobs.

I am still not sure why yopu are still trying to infer that I don't buy my own things. In my experience people who make up crap like that usually are on the losing end of a debate. FYI I buy my own stuff and have no reason to steal anything. You on the other hand equate life to property. If your child does a beer run and gets shot in the back running away I guess you would have to accept that they 'stole someone else's stuff' and their lives deserved to be forfeited. Nice logic.

[George Gervin's Afro]

If it's my flat screen TV I just dropped 2G on, you're goddamn right I value it more than the life of someone breaking into my house to steal it from me. If it's my next-door neighbor's flat screen that I know he's been saving forever for, then yes, I value it more than the life of someone who breaks into his house to steal it. It's not like the average person can just go get another big screen tv the day after his gets stolen.

Still not worth someone else's life. My car's radio has been jacked and I was pissed but not enough to shoot someone in the back running away. My dad's house was robbed of everything a few years back and guess what? They caught the guys and he got everything back. And he didn't have to kill one person!

[peewee's lovechild]

No I'll teach my child that taking a human life is not the first option when dealing with someone who is committing a non viloent crime. If they become aware that someone is burglarizing our neighbors home they shouldn't run out and shoot them while they are running away. Especially if they are told not to by the 911 operator. Instead they should call the cops and let them do their jobs.

I am still not sure why yopu are still trying to infer that I don't buy my own things. In my experience people who make up crap like that usually are on the losing end of a debate. FYI I buy my own stuff and have no reason to steal anything. You on the other hand equate life to property. If your child does a beer run and gets shot in the back running away I guess you would have to accept that they 'stole someone else's stuff' and their lives deserved to be forfeited. Nice logic.

Yea, beer run = robbing a house.

You're brilliant!!!

[peewee's lovechild]

If it's my flat screen TV I just dropped 2G on, you're goddamn right I value it more than the life of someone breaking into my house to steal it from me. If it's my next-door neighbor's flat screen that I know he's been saving forever for, then yes, I value it more than the life of someone who breaks into his house to steal it. It's not like the average person can just go get another big screen tv the day after his gets stolen.

Afro is the kind of guy who wants that to happen to he can buy that TV on the cheap from the theifs.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yea, beer run = robbing a house.

You're brilliant!!!

Your right stealing from a store and a house are 2 different things..

But someone breaking into your house and raping your spouse while your home = two thiefs running away after burglraizing your neighbor's house.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Afro is the kind of guy who wants that to happen to he can buy that TV on the cheap from the theifs.

peewee is the kind of guy who loses debates so he starts to name call.. Is it your wife who gave you the nickname peewee?

[peewee's lovechild]

Your right stealing from a store and a house are 2 different things..

But someone breaking into your house and raping your spouse while your home = two thiefs running away after burglraizing your neighbor's house.

Being ridiculous is par for the course when using your original argument.

[peewee's lovechild]

peewee is the kind of guy who loses debates so he starts to name call.. Is it your wife who gave you the nickname peewee?

No, your mother did.

She's used to bigger, darker men.

But, I had my fun.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Being ridiculous is par for the course when using your original argument.

The one where I specified that it was wrong to shoot 2 guys running from the scene?

Or your response to that question claiming that I would give someone a sandwich if they broke into my home , while I was there, and raped a family member?

My original argumet

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, your mother did.

She's used to bigger, darker men.

But, I had my fun.

My mom has a place in her heart for men with small peepees peewee..! My mom and your wife call your little manhood peewee..

[peewee's lovechild]

My mom has a place in her heart for men with small peepees peewee..! My mom and your wife call your little manhood peewee..

They are both nice women.

[peewee's lovechild]

The one where I specified that it was wrong to shoot 2 guys running from the scene?

capital punishment for robbing houses?

You were being ridiculous, so the favor was returned.