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    Really?

    If anyone is owed anything, it's the Native Americans.
    Yes.

    The Aztec part of me agrees with this.

    Either way, I need to collect for my ancestors.

    Reparations, baby!!!!!!!

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    Bring on the Reparations!!!

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    Really?

    If anyone is owed anything, it's the Native Americans.
    I meant they aren't owed anything. I worded it incorrectly.

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    I am forced to live in a world knowing that if I had only been born a few centuries sooner I could have known the joy of owning another human being. I believe the federal government should pay me reparations totaling the fair market value of all the house work I did for my parents because we did not have the right to own slaves.

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    I am forced to live in a world knowing that if I had only been born a few centuries sooner I could have known the joy of owning another human being. I believe the federal government should pay me reparations totaling the fair market value of all the house work I did for my parents because we did not have the right to own slaves.

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    Quasi-racist SFIE is some funny .

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    Bring on the Reparations!!!
    Fine.

    But we're not giving back Texas.


    You can have Arizona and New Mexico.


    , we'll also throw in Louisiana.


    Just print up this post and take it to the Govorner's mansion along with a money order for the amount of $335.50 and the land is yours.

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    Land should be given back to the animal(s) that inhabited NM before the Native Americans. Neandratals? Chimps?

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    Fine.

    But we're not giving back Texas.


    You can have Arizona and New Mexico.


    , we'll also throw in Louisiana.


    Just print up this post and take it to the Govorner's mansion along with a money order for the amount of $335.50 and the land is yours.

    all that.

    Texas would be the first thing we want back.

    Texas with all it's minerals.

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    What do you mean "give land back to black people"?

    They never had land here.
    I meant just give it to them.

    Look I am trying to work and slack off at the same time ok. Sometimes I rush things.

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    Just out of curisosity...

    If a man calls another man a ...does that mean he thinks men are inferior?
    If a man calls another man an ahole does that mean he thinks everything is inferior?


    Conversely, if a woman says another woman acts like a man, or if a man says it to a woman...does that mean they think men are inferior?


    Men need to be able to insult each other...it's an essential part of building a relationship and communicating.
    I have no problem with insults - I have a problem with utilizing female genitalia as a form of derogatory intercourse.

    Calling someone a walking vagina is meant to be demeaning to the male - because it implies an emasculation or lessening which subsequently equates him with female genitalia.

    I don't think calling someone an asshole is quite the same, but you have a point about calling someone a prick or a .

    Whether or not a woman or man attributing male characteristics to a woman is considering them inferior would depend on the insult in question. When this happens on here, it is clearly meant to be insulting, and the insult is as a result of what I describe above.

    To be honest, I can't think of an insult centered around masculinization. Perhaps a woman being called a if she is disdainful of men or has a more masculine appearance, but again, that really returns to the idea of women liking other women, which is inferior to male companionship and a penis.

    So. . . if you could give me an example, I'd look at it and be happy to determine whether or not it infers a gender-based inferiority.

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    While we're getting reparation happy here, when is the government going to step up and beat some reparations out of Canada's government for what they did to the Cajun people when they kicked them out? Where's my 40 acres and a minor league hockey team, eh?

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    Black people are owed something because of what their ancestors went through.
    Slavery, and the lingering racism of the Jim Crow south after its "end," was an absolute abomination and something for which this country should be embarrassed for a long time.

    However, I don't support reparations as they imply that Blacks are the only group who've been on the losing side of the USA oppression game. The way we treat our own people, across the scale, is shameful. Especially considering we've got the gall to take pride in being a melting pot.

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    I meant just give it to them.

    Look I am trying to work and slack off at the same time ok. Sometimes I rush things.
    We could give them land in Africa to go to.

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    We are all experimental subjects of Aliens who landed here a long long long time ago.

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    Blacks were enslaved by blacks(and still are) long before white men started doing it. White men never actually went to Africa and rounded up slaves...they purchased them from Black Tribes and Muslim slave traders.


    True fact...the first registered slave owner in United States History was a Free Black man who won a legal case for ownership for life of another black man. And in part his case was won based on the cultural practices of Blacks in Africa. Prior to that, blacks(and whites) were slaves under th terms of indentured servitude.........

    True
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    Also true, Mexicans would not colonize Texas, and the Mexican government had to offer European settlers land and money to colonize Texas. That's how they got here.

    Texas was only part of Mexico for a few decades, it was part of Spain for centuries, and it has been part of the US for longer, and it was inhabited by native Americans for far far longer...so I want to know exactly why Mexico has a claim? They owned it less time than anyone, and their people wanted to be here less than anyone.


    The United States didn't go to war with Mexico for Texas...Texas did. And it won it's independence legally and ultimately with the consent of the Mexican government.



    Furthermore, the Mexican citizens that did live here, in fact fought for Texas Independence from Mexico and became citizens of Texas and then the United States, and they are called Tejanos.


    The whites did not move in here and run all the Mexican citizens out of the state....the whites and Mexicans that lived here fought together for Texas Independence from Mexico.


    If you want to say it belongs to the Native Americans that lived here for millenia...well you have a point then, but it doesn't belong to Mexico...or Mexicans. And Texas joined the United of America with the popular support of it's citizens(including the Mexican ones) as an Independent country, just as they fought for Indepdence from Mexico.


    Historical fact. Sorry if it doesn't jibe with popular blame the white man philosophy...the Indians, they've got a point about being ed over by the Whiteman...no one else really does.


    And slavery is still prevalent in Africa and just about every Muslim country.

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    Slavery, and the lingering racism of the Jim Crow south after its "end," was an absolute abomination and something for which this country should be embarrassed for a long time.

    However, I don't support reparations as they imply that Blacks are the only group who've been on the losing side of the USA oppression game. The way we treat our own people, across the scale, is shameful. Especially considering we've got the gall to take pride in being a melting pot.
    I actually agree with you. WOW

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    While we're getting reparation happy here, when is the government going to step up and beat some reparations out of Canada's government for what they did to the Cajun people when they kicked them out? Where's my 40 acres and a minor league hockey team, eh?
    Dude, you rock.

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    Also true, Mexicans would not colonize Texas, and the Mexican government had to offer European settlers land and money to colonize Texas. That's how they got here.

    Texas was only part of Mexico for a few decades, it was part of Spain for centuries, and it has been part of the US for longer, and it was inhabited by native Americans for far far longer...so I want to know exactly why Mexico has a claim? They owned it less time than anyone, and their people wanted to be here less than anyone.


    The United States didn't go to war with Mexico for Texas...Texas did. And it won it's independence legally and ultimately with the consent of the Mexican government.



    Furthermore, the Mexican citizens that did live here, in fact fought for Texas Independence from Mexico and became citizens of Texas and then the United States, and they are called Tejanos.


    The whites did not move in here and run all the Mexican citizens out of the state....the whites and Mexicans that lived here fought together for Texas Independence from Mexico.


    If you want to say it belongs to the Native Americans that lived here for millenia...well you have a point then, but it doesn't belong to Mexico...or Mexicans. And Texas joined the United of America with the popular support of it's citizens(including the Mexican ones) as an Independent country, just as they fought for Indepdence from Mexico.


    Historical fact. Sorry if it doesn't jibe with popular blame the white man philosophy...the Indians, they've got a point about being ed over by the Whiteman...no one else really does.


    And slavery is still prevalent in Africa and just about every Muslim country.

    I was never a blame the white man kinda guy. I'm the get over it kinda guy.

    As far as my family being from here well so far I see nothing that shows otherwise. We are called mexican now but my people are Mestizos. The reason we are here is because the Spaniards mixed with my NATIVE AMERICAN ancestors. The same ancestors that lived in this region of North America.

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    What I don't understand...


    Why aren't Mexican pissed off at Spain?

    Spainish comes from Spain..as does Catholicism...American didn't go in there and impose that on Mexicans, and eradicate their culture and force them to convert to European customs, government and religion..Spain did.


    Yet most Mexicans I know are proud of their Spanish heritage, the cultural impact of Spain, their relgion and their language, that the Spanish conquerers imposed on the indigenous people. I don't understand it, and I never have....even the dark skinned Mexicans that took the brunt of the genocide and show little or no European blood in them...are proud of these ties.

    Your true heritage was most likely Aztek...not Spanish. And America wasn't the one responsibile for what happened to your country....nor are they responsible for the ty European Aristocracy type government(otherwise known as socialism) that has kept that country completley ed economically.


    I don't have any problems with Mexicans that want to come to America and be citizens...but what scares the living out of me is the ones that want to bring the Mexican Government and socialism with them...


    that. That is so corrupt it's not even funny...


    Mexico has a load of natural resouces and arable land...there is absolutely no reason it should be as economically ed as it is.

    It makes no sense, if the Mexican government was that great, those mofos wouldn't want to come over here in the first place...for money or anything else.


    I don't understand the loyalty to the Mexican Government...
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    people put too much importance on the past when really, it has no bearing on who you are as a person. live your own life, forget who did what to whom in the past...if you have to google and wiki , then you dont know it and it isnt a big deal to you, so dont act like it is. move on, live your life for now and the future. not the past.

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    I was never a blame the white man kinda guy. I'm the get over it kinda guy.

    As far as my family being from here well so far I see nothing that shows otherwise. We are called mexican now but my people are Mestizos. The reason we are here is because the Spaniards mixed with my NATIVE AMERICAN ancestors. The same ancestors that lived in this region of North America.
    That's awesome...but that's not the popular conception.

    Me..when I went to join the Army after September 11th, 90% of the guys I saw joining up to go fight were Mexican...I don't know if they were Mexican Nationals or Mexican Americans..but damned if they weren't the bulk of the guys wanting to fight, and most of them wanted to join the Marines.

    I dont' give a who those mofos were...those are the guys this country needs more of right now.


    But like I said...I don't get the loyalty of so many Mexican Nationals to the Mexican Government...if I was from Mexico and patriotic...first thing I would be trying to do is overthrow that corrupt mofo.

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    people put too much importance on the past when really, it has no bearing on who you are as a person. live your own life, forget who did what to whom in the past...if you have to google and wiki , then you dont know it and it isnt a big deal to you, so dont act like it is. move on, live your life for now and the future. not the past.

    Right it doesn't have much bearing on who are you as a person...but if a country is run so tily, with absolutely logical reason for being so, that I have to leave to go to another country just to make a living and feed my family, I am not going to be freaking loyal to that country....and I am damn sure not going to want to make the place I am going to earn that living just like it...


    I mean my family came over here from Germany most likely for economic reasons(incidentally in the early part of the 20th century)...I don't want to be like Germany. Germany. If Germany was so great...I wouldn't be here now.

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    I have no problem with insults - I have a problem with utilizing female genitalia as a form of derogatory intercourse.
    You do realize that most men are quite fond of female genitalia right?


    Calling someone a walking vagina is meant to be demeaning to the male - because it implies an emasculation or lessening which subsequently equates him with female genitalia.
    Right...it means he's not fufilling his gender role. It means he's not acting like a man should act...but it's also just because it's intended to sound derogatory.



    I don't think calling someone an asshole is quite the same, but you have a point about calling someone a prick or a .

    Thanks...it is relevant right?

    Whether or not a woman or man attributing male characteristics to a woman is considering them inferior would depend on the insult in question. When this happens on here, it is clearly meant to be insulting, and the insult is as a result of what I describe above.

    Well maybe there are certain times when a man is supposed to be hard and tough, and by comparing them to female genitalia, which is decidedly not hard or tough, they are accusing them of not doing what they are supposed to be doing and being what they are supposed to be being.


    To be honest, I can't think of an insult centered around masculinization. Perhaps a woman being called a if she is disdainful of men or has a more masculine appearance, but again, that really returns to the idea of women liking other women, which is inferior to male companionship and a penis.

    So. . . if you could give me an example, I'd look at it and be happy to determine whether or not it infers a gender-based inferiority.

    Sure...she looks like a man. She talks like a man. She walks like a man, acts like man. I think she has an Adam's apple...she's got a mustache, a beard.


    All derogatory...all referencing male characteristics, all meant to be insults to women.


    I can't honestly say I've ever heard someone call a woman a before though.

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    Once I heard someone say of Serena Williams, "She looks like Ben Wallace with breasts." I understand now that the comment was just extolling her toughness and athleticism.

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