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    Manu was part of 3 NBA championship teams at an age before Jordan acquired his second. Think about that for a second.

    As for trading Manu you can't teach clutchness... You retain it as long as possible. And while I would say that Crawford has proven to be clutch on many occasions... but he is also a turnstile on defense, a ball-hog, and a known 'knucklehead'. Manu is defensively clutch as well (minus the Nowitzki brain fart) - which is something that can't be stated for Jamal.

    Besides, when will people understand that Manu's injury this year was completely untimely and unfortunate??? The Spurs, like countless of teams before them, were simply bit by the injury bug at the wrong time of the year. They were unlucky, that is all... Manu's injury was not the result of his inability to handle the NBA grind.

    Manu still bangs in the post when he needs to, but has vastly improved his mid-range and outside shooting consistency so that he doesn't have to drive to the basket on every play. Over the last two seasons he's even reduced the frequency of his flopping (which could be construed as potential injuries-in-waiting). His injury this year not only limited his explosiveness to the basket, but his ability to push off for his shot. Essentially that's what negated his inside/outside effectiveness. But let's not forget that Finley getting more minutes than Barry in the series against LA was just as detrimental/crucial.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 07-22-2008 at 02:17 PM.

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    D'Antoni has no system for the Knicks yet.

    And Manu would do nothing for Knicks fans if they continue to lose. Adding just Manu to that roster does not make them that much better.
    adding Manu to that Roster will easily make them better. Manu is a winner and will close out games for them. He doesn't help the spurs, because he will eventually get hurt. If I were a Knicks fan I would slobber over this deal. Now from the Spurs end, I'm open to hearing better trade options.

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    adding Manu to that Roster will easily make them better. Manu is a winner and will close out games for them. He doesn't help the spurs, because he will eventually get hurt. If I were a Knicks fan I would slobber over this deal. Now from the Spurs end, I'm open to hearing better trade options.
    So if Manu played for the Knicks, he won't eventually get hurt?

    Manu can't close out games for the Knicks when 1) he is hurt or 2) the game's not close enough to be closed.

    Manu is definitely a winner. He's a great, great player. But, the Knicks roster is filled with mismatching pieces and has a bunch of players that aren't winners. Manu alone does not make that team better.

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    So if Manu played for the Knicks, he won't eventually get hurt?

    Manu can't close out games for the Knicks when 1) he is hurt or 2) the game's not close enough to be closed.

    Manu is definitely a winner. He's a great, great player. But, the Knicks roster is filled with mismatching pieces and has a bunch of players that aren't winners. Manu alone does not make that team better.
    does he make them better than crawford and lee? I would say absolutely yes. Knicks are not going to win it all overnight. Plus, when 2010 comes around Manu and Lebron sounds deadly to me. Atleast that's what I would sell the Knicks.

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    GhostWriter would be proud of this proposed trade.

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    If you're so sure Manu eventually will get injured, ask yourself this instead: does Manu not playing make the Knicks better than Crawford and Lee?

    I would say no.

    You can't sell an organization on something that only "might" happen. And, when 2010 comes, Manu might be done altogether. If that's what you would try to sell, I'm betting they aren't buying.

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    GhostWriter would be proud of this proposed trade.
    word uh uh eh eh

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    does he make them better than crawford and lee? I would say absolutely yes.
    So we should trade them to get Manu back.

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    i dont have a problem with spurs fans wanting to trade manu.

    but jamal crawford and david lee? that is a terrible deal. and LOL at david lee being a post option. dude can rebound and thats it. would JC+Lee give us an efficient 20ppg, PG ability, and the extra scoring we missed last season? or even just good D?

    at least the barbosa + diaw proposal would give the spurs something useful.

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    R.C.- If you trade Manu, please trade him to Orlando, or Indiana.
    I am running out of room in my signature for all my faves' new team logos.

    Although, if it weren't for Timmy, I could just replace the Spurs logo with the one of Manu's new team, if the Spurs were to trade him.

    Thankfully, this is a moot point.

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    R.C.- If you trade Manu, please trade him to Orlando, or Indiana.
    I am running out of room in my signature for all my faves' new team logos.

    Although, if it weren't for Timmy, I could just replace the Spurs logo with the one of Manu's new team, if the Spurs were to trade him.

    Thankfully, this is a moot point.
    so really you are not a spur fan

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    At least get a star in return.

    David Lee and Crawford, that's pretty weak for Manu Ginobili.

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    He helped us with 3 rings actually...I still would not be against trading him for the right deal.
    he helped indeed, but an argument can be made that those two rings if weren't for him we wouldn't have gotten them.

    and by right deal you mean Lebron James? Yeap I am up for it

    but let's be serious, we shouldn't start shopping him around. That's so disrespectful. We, Spurs fans know better than that.

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    This trade would make us worse now and in the future. Jamal Crawford's contract comes off the books a year later than Manu's. If we're not winning any more Championships with Manu, we're certainly not winning any with Crawford and Lee replacing him. We're better off keeping Manu around until 2010.

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    If you're so sure Manu eventually will get injured, ask yourself this instead: does Manu not playing make the Knicks better than Crawford and Lee?

    I would say no.

    You can't sell an organization on something that only "might" happen. And, when 2010 comes, Manu might be done altogether. If that's what you would try to sell, I'm betting they aren't buying.
    dude, I wouldn't propose it if I didn't think the spurs would actually get the better end of the deal long-term. I'm just telling you how I would sell it. Shoot if LA can sell a bag of popcorn for Gasol...

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    Jamaal Crawford average 20points and 5assists per game last year with a plus16 effeciency. Ginobilli averaged less with a lower effeciency of 13. Then throw in David Lee and Ginobilli's inevitable injury. Shoot we would be lucky to get this done.

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    so really you are not a spur fan
    no she's actually a TP hater like many on the board

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    Manu will retire a Spur IMHO unless he jeopordizes his health by playing for his national team since Pop has serious reservations about it. And if it causes Manu to get seriously injured that may be the only thing that could prevent him from having his jersey hanging from the AT&T rafters.

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    Trade Mango for Josh Smith. Atlanta can do a sign and trade. He is only 22 and alot of upstart. Mango is a wild beast and should have been dealt when his trade value was high 2 years ago. Its nice to see alot Spur fans not going nuts at the thought of trading the Mango. He comes off the bench because he cannot control his wild ways. Atlanta would take a shot at him especially knowing they will lose Josh Smith next year for sure.

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    I couldn't help but laugh at "Mango"

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    I couldn't help but laugh at "Mango"
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    I would trade Manu... to Chicago for Grodon and Deng as sign and trades. To Chicago Oberto, Manu and Booner and a first round pick. Would love to add Noah to that trade too.

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