America's Poor: Are they that poor?

[ChumpDumper]

when you have something to say please let me know.

You too.

[2centsworth]

I would imagine that there are many mechanics who bust their asses for 50 hours a week but can't afford health insurance for their familes.

affordability of healthcare is a different issue. There are compelling arguments for both a one payer system and a private system. Playing the conservatives hate poor people card is not conducive to getting the very best system in place.

Would they benefit from more personal responsibility?

the 50 hour a week worker is responsible and it bears out in the statistics. He's more than likely rich in relative terms.

What about those people work two jobs but still can't make ends meet?

Now that's the real point of the article. They are more than making ends meet. You might look down on their standard of living, but I don't.

Do they need a good dose of conservative personal responsibility?

who is they? what is proven is that people in lower income classes benefit more from education and the economic system we already have in place.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I don't see any valid indicators of wealth listed here. FYI, consumer electronics are pretty cheap, esp. if they are second hand. "Space" is a function of population density, not wealth.

I wonder if 15 yr old color tv counts in this equation. I could go down to the corner pawnshop and buy one for 10.00 15.00 bucks. I guess I could by 2 for 35.00 and not be poor anymore. I guess then I would need a good dose of conservative responsibility.

[2centsworth]

You too.

I'm not saying what you want to hear that's for sure. The question still stands, are America's poor really that poor?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not saying what you want to hear that's for sure. The question still stands, are America's poor really that poor?

They don't exist.

[2centsworth]

I wonder if 15 yr old color tv counts in this equation. I could go down to the corner pawnshop and buy one for 10.00 15.00 bucks. I guess I could by 2 for 35.00 and not be poor anymore. I guess then I would need a good dose of conservative responsibility.

In america you can buy a tv for $10. wonderful, you proved my point.

[PixelPusher]

I wonder if 15 yr old color tv counts in this equation. I could go down to the corner pawnshop and buy one for 10.00 15.00 bucks. I guess I could by 2 for 35.00 and not be poor anymore. I guess then I would need a good dose of conservative responsibility.

Fixating on owning TV's as an indicator of wealth is so 1950's. But that's the timeframe many conservatives are stuck in, so it makes sense.

[xrayzebra]

So being poor is a crime? Are we talking poor or being a bum (homeless) in todays PC world. Everyone at one time or another goes through a period of being poor. You don't like being poor. Get an education, not necessarily being a prerequisite to being rich, or get a job, stick with it, be dependable and take care of business. Or get on the government , stay there and stay poor. That is what happens to staying on that . But what they heck. That is life in America now. It wasn't what made us what we are, but it is what will make us like Europe. And isn't that what the dimm-o-craps want.

[PixelPusher]

In america you can buy a tv for $10. wonderful, you proved my point.

That consumer electronics are cheap enough for poor people to own?

[2centsworth]

They don't exist.

show me where I said that?

[2centsworth]

That consumer electronics are cheap enough for poor people to own?

isn't our country great. Apparently air conditioning, food, housing, etc.. are affordable too.

[ChumpDumper]

show me where I said that?

You said the poor aren't poor, so the poor do not exist.

[2centsworth]

You said they aren't poor, so the poor do not exist.

show me where I said that.

[xrayzebra]

tv is the standard to being poor? I don't think so.

[PixelPusher]

isn't our country great.

...so if you own a tv, regardless of income or debts, you not really poor...is that it?

[ChumpDumper]

show me where I said that.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...8&postcount=19

[PixelPusher]

And while we're at it, because poor people can afford cheap, highly processed food-like substances and get fat off of them, they're not really poor either...right?

[2centsworth]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...8&postcount=19

the mysterious "they" . The they in that case was in response to George's Afro's they. For example, the 50 hour per week mechanic.

[xrayzebra]

And while we're at it, because poor people can afford cheap, highly processed food-like substances and get fat off of them, they're not really poor either...right?

Who the 's fault is that. Certainly not mine. There is a way out of poverty (poor). Get a job.

[2centsworth]

And while we're at it, because poor people can afford cheap, highly processed food-like substances and get fat off of them, they're not really poor either...right?

only made for the poor? plus, I grew up on rice, beans and chicken. didn't know you ate that much better than I did.

[PixelPusher]

Who the 's fault is that. Certainly not mine. There is a way out of poverty (poor). Get a job.

You mean a 4th job? there's only so many hours in a day.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, what is the 2cent definition of poor?

[2centsworth]

Who the 's fault is that. Certainly not mine. There is a way out of poverty (poor). Get a job.

By the governments definition of poor, those people more times than not have jobs and work their asses off.

[PixelPusher]

only made for the poor? plus, I grew up on rice, beans and chicken. didn't know you ate that much better than I did.

Beans, rice and chicken are real food. That 39 cent package of Raumen noodles is not. It's ironic that cheap processed food is so much higher in calories than regular food (because corn syrup is cheaper than sugar thanks to corn subsidies), so people who eat processed foods (and no they don't necessarily have to be poor people) get fat, so conservatives can point at them as say "See! That fat bas isn't poor!"

[2centsworth]

Beans, rice and chicken are real food. That 39 cent package of Raumen noodles is not. It's ironic that cheap processed food is so much higher in calories than regular food (because corn syrup is cheaper than sugar thanks to corn subsidies), so people who eat processed foods (and no they don't necessarily have to be poor people) get fat, so conservatives can point at them as say "See! That fat bas isn't poor!"

where in the world is your evidence that poor people eat only raumen noodles. I'm from a poor family and we ate routinely ate peasant food which IMO is the best food in the world. Eating at my mothers is so much better than eating out.

I can feed an army of 50 with about $20 bucks at Culebra's Meat Market.