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    I agree that Bonner might be on the move. What does this mean for Gist? I still think he makes the squad, but the Spurs might let things play out between him and Hairston through training camp.

    Do you think this is right:

    Parker/Vaughn/Hill
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    Bowen/Udoka/Gist or Hairston
    Duncan/Mahinmi/Tolliver/Bonner
    Thomas/Oberto

    Bonner looks like the odd duck to me.

    I don't think the Spurs signed Tolliver for the Toros. I think they want to use him to space the floor around Duncan. Tolliver is a one-dimesional player with a limited ceiling. If he can hit the three consistently, Pop will play him now.

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    gist and hill will also be signed. hairston is the odd man out along with bonner apparently.
    Problem is Bonner is not going to get us much of anything. If we do deal him, it'll be for cash considerations and a crappy 2nd rounder at best to a team that is under the cap. For a team over the cap, we'll have to match salary and as our roster stands we don't need to be trading for another equally crappy player. I imagine Pop will try to deal him for what I first mentioned though. We always do a good job dumping salary.

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    damn Gist hasn't had his contract signed yet?

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    damn Gist hasn't had his yet?
    They're taking their time with the draft picks. They had to sign Tolliver quickly since he was probably already getting offers from the D-League and Europe.

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    I agree that Bonner might be on the move. What does this mean for Gist? I still think he makes the squad, but the Spurs might let things play out between him and Hairston through training camp.

    Do you think this is right:

    Parker/Vaughn/Hill
    Mason/Ginobli/Fin
    Bowen/Udoka/Gist or Hairston
    Duncan/Mahinmi/Tolliver/Bonner
    Thomas/Oberto

    Bonner looks like the odd duck to me.

    I don't think the Spurs signed Tolliver for the Toros. I think they want to use him to space the floor around Duncan. Tolliver is a one-dimesional player with a limited ceiling. If he can hit the three consistently, Pop will play him now.
    As I said the day we acquired Hairston, he will not be making our roster. Forget him. He is D-League at best. Gist will be a Spur or owning fellers in D-League and none the less.

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    I think Tolliver replaces Bonner as a PF shooter, which hopefully still leaves Gist to be the high energy SF... Which leaves Hairston with the chance to be the star of the Toros if he doesn't split for Europe.

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    They're taking their time with the draft picks. They had to sign Tolliver quickly since he was probably already getting offers from the D-League and Europe.
    Exactly. SA obviously saw the risk against signing him, and went ahead and got it done. And for good reason too.

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    Brent Barry replacement? Cool
    That's Mason, but I know you don't really know anything.

    Apparently we now have three guys who might replace Horry.

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    They're taking their time with the draft picks. They had to sign Tolliver quickly since he was probably already getting offers from the D-League and Europe.
    i think he could have gotten an offer from another NBA team too. if you can shoot, you will find a job in the league...see jason kapono.

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    They're taking their time with the draft picks. They had to sign Tolliver quickly since he was probably already getting offers from the D-League and Europe.
    Agree. Of course, a draft pick can also at anytime choose to play in Europe. Just ask Danny Ferry.

    Spurs apparently like signing players who are drastically improving their game. Roger Mason once has absolutely no offense and was a pure defensive player. Tolliver was an undersized center. Now he's a long range shooting PF. Also the guy has slimmed down drastically since college.

    I do hope Gist gets signed though. He's got a lot of talent and his signing will plug a hole in our defense.

    Hairston... well as I've been saying all along... can't see where he fits.

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    I think that a significant part of his contract is guaranteed. If you were Tolliver, would you sign a contract in July if it wasn't with some guaranteed money ?

    Spurs ready to invest some money on Tolliver could mean that they have fully given up on Bonner and/or have a trade with Bonner on the table.

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    He sure can shoot....but doest this in any way hurt James Gist?
    James Gist is not capable of getting hurt

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    They're taking their time with the draft picks. They had to sign Tolliver quickly since he was probably already getting offers from the D-League and Europe.
    Europe probably, but I'm sure the Energy would have retained his D-League rights.

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    I think Tolliver replaces Bonner as a PF shooter, which hopefully still leaves Gist to be the high energy SF... Which leaves Hairston with the chance to be the star of the Toros if he doesn't split for Europe.
    What can he do that Bonner can not? Unless it is a move that will allow us to dump Bonner's contract and pick up Tolliver who can do at least the same thing for cheaper, then I do not understand it.

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    I doubt we trade Bonner, unless Tolliver really comes along.

    This is Bonner's year to shine. If he doesn't then I see him being shipped out next year when he is in the final year of his contract.

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    they just signed him so he can carry James Gist's bags

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    James Gist is not capable of getting hurt

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    C- Thomas, Oberto, Mahinmi
    PF- Duncan, Tolliver, Bonner
    SF- Bowen, Udoka, Gist
    SG- Mason, Ginobili, Finley
    PG- Parker, Hill, Vaughn

    There's 15 and the limit as well. Bonner will be traded IMHO, and Finley likely resigned. Gist likely signed as well and Hill is sort of obvious to me.

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    David West...you sure got high hopes. I love the signing though.
    nah he is right....ive been watching him play and that was the first person that i compared him too........high hopes maybe, same style of play(with a tune up) the same...imo... question is how many minutes can he get?

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    Unless injuries occur, Tolliver never plays a regular season game. He will be in camp and will eventually get cut. If not in the beginning then midseason when it is time to bring in another vet. In the mean time it will be NBDL if anything.

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    usually a picture of the acquired player would have been posted by now. slackers.

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    usually a picture of the acquired player would have been posted by now. slackers.

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    What can he do that Bonner can not? Unless it is a move that will allow us to dump Bonner's contract and pick up Tolliver who can do at least the same thing for cheaper, then I do not understand it.
    Well, we don't know if either guy can play consistently as a Spur, so why not keep both for awhile until that can be determined for one or both of them?

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    I doubt we trade Bonner, unless Tolliver really comes along.

    This is Bonner's year to shine. If he doesn't then I see him being shipped out next year when he is in the final year of his contract.
    bonner is done. from what i've seen of tolliver in the summer league games, he is a much more proficient shooter than bonner. he really worked at his j and it's a thing of beauty. he has really nice form. i think the Pop has lost faith in him like Rasho.

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    Well, we don't know if either guy can play consistently as a Spur, so why not keep both for awhile until that can be determined for one or both of them?
    +1

    If Bonner was on the SL roster, he'd be averaging 20/8. Easily.

    I think many posters have become bored with Bonner. No suprise.

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