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Oddly enough, there's a Youtube video consisting entirely of Tolliver highlights.
Don't know if it's been posted.
(Germany-1.Bundesliga): 20 games: 14.3ppg, 7.3rpg, 1.1apg, 1.2bpg, 2FGP: 54.0%, 3PT: 37.7%, FT: 64.7%
Man, that's a pathetic FT percentage!
Definitely a Spur.
Oddly enough, there's a Youtube video consisting entirely of Tolliver highlights.
Don't know if it's been posted.
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There's just no way this deal isn't at least partially guaranteed. No one signs a non-guaranteed contract this early in summer ... especially coming off of a good summer league showing. Someone had to be showing interest to get the Spurs to move quickly. At the very least, I'd guess that $150-200K of the contract is guaranteed. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the whole first year is guaranteed.
Hustle plays. Running hard up and down the court. Being in the right place defensively.
Tolliver definitely used the Summer leagues to his advantage. Here are his Vegas stats:
12.3 ppg, 5 rpg. But more importantly, his shooting percentages: 61.5% 3PT, 83.3% FT, 57.1% FG.
And at the RMR: 11.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 53.3% 3PT, 88.7% FT, 51.7% FG.
I agree with timvp that Tolliver's sudden emergence as a shooter is a little strange. He rarely shot threes in college, though he was a center at Creighton. Part of it might be the time he spent in Germany last year. He talks about focusing on shooting in this article: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pag...u_sid=10337737
In 25 games with the Iowa Energy of the D league, he shot 36% from the three point line & 51% from the field. So it seems like his evolution into a shooter has been at least somewhat steady in the last year or so. It'll be ironic if he works out for the Spurs-- he was cut by the Cavs last year, and now it looks like he's exactly the kind of inexpensive role player they could use, especially considering how cap-challenged they are.
Bonner isn't going anywhere until the trading deadline, at the earliest.
I honestly don't see the Spurs giving up on Bonner. I think he'll have an opportunity to contribute early on this year.
However, that doesn't mean Tolliver will be cut. If he can show the ability to defend and continues to hit his shot with accuracy, then there isn't a reason why he shouldn't make the squad.
It's Jeff McDonald, the only one assuming is him.
That's what I thought but the Spurs signed Predator, Buckets, Spider and Cherokee on the same day sometime in August. Signing someone the day after summer league is something I can't remember the Spurs have done . . .
You'd have to suspect this guy has tremendous work ethic and knew he couldn't make an NBA team if he didn't improve his shot.
Those are the type of players you want. The ones who improve.
you could name worse examples than kapono. west is aiming pretty high. maybe a poor man's okur.
From EuroBasketBall
Solid all around and versatile power forward who can post up and create in the paint or step out and hit the 18 footer consistently. Solid rebounder and shot blocker. Quintessential team player who understands the game and does a lot of the winning things that do not show up in boxscores: diving for loose balls, strong defense, solid screens and dirty work while consistently putting up solid scoring and rebounding numbers and strong field goal percentage. Great basketball IQ and hard worker. Type of player coaches love. Clean cut, no nonsense, mature person both on and off the court. NBA level forward who could also be a star on a high level European team.
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Career:
Springfield, Mo. (Kickapoo)
2004-2005: Creighton (NCAA): 34 games: 4.2ppg, 4.4rpg, 20ast
2005-2006: Creighton (NCAA): 28 games: 13.2ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.5apg, 1.0spg, 1.6bpg, FG: 51.6%, 3PT: 42.9%, FT: 73.7%
2006, summer: Athletes in Action (touring team) France Tour
2006-2007: Creighton (NCAA): 33 games: 13.4ppg, 6.7rpg, 1.9apg, 1.7bpg, FGP: 50.6%, 3Pts: 21.1%, FT: 65.8%
2007 April: Portsmouth Invitational Tournament (Holiday Inn - Portsmouth team)
2007 July: Pepsi Pro Summer League in Orlando (Miami Heat)
2007: Drafted by Butte Daredevils (CBA,2rd(16))
2007: Cleveland Cavaliers (NBA) - Made opening day roster but was released in first week by Cavaliers to make room for Sasha Pavlovic and Anderson Varejao
2007-2008: Iowa Energy (D-League), in Feb.'08 moved to Eisbaeren Bremerhaven (Germany-1.Bundesliga): 20 games: 14.3ppg, 7.3rpg, 1.1apg, 1.2bpg, 2FGP: 54.0%, 3PT: 37.7%, FT: 64.7%
When we signed McCaskill I tought he was a poor man M.Rose.
Now we get the poor man M.Bonner
Our youthful potential:
George Hill = Gilbert Arenas
Anthony Tolliver = David West
James Gist = Dennis Rodman
and
Ian Mahinmi = Francisco Elson
Extremely promising!!
If you think Hill can potentially become Arenas, Tolliver can become David West, and Gist can become Rodman, aren't you undershooting things a little with Mahinmi becoming Elson...
Yeah, why not hit the pipe a fourth time?
I'm a realist.
Okay, if you want to stetch the analogy a bit, how about:
Mahinmi = David Robinson
Link to where I said the Spurs would never sign Tolliver?
heres a catch.....tolliver is like signing a small forward, and power forward (with range) in one shot....someone said he wasnt fast and athletic, and that may be true, but from what ive seen in 5 or more games is, he uses his quickness, and his size to overshadow his faults....and he does it well enough to get someones attention...practice just got better...i woulda taken tolliver over hill from what ive seen so far....ian im still waiting on...
http://www.mrbottomtoothwaswrong.com
Arenas, West and Rodman was being realist!?!
Refer to an older post of mine: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...5&postcount=39
Anthony Tolliver 6' 7"
6' 8.5" - with shoes
242 lbs - weight
7' 2.5" - wingspan
8' 11.5" - standing reach
5.7 - body fat
28.5 - no step vertical jump
30.0 - max vertical jump
21 - reps bench press
11.49 - lane agility
3.29 - 3/4 court sprint
Pretty decent athletically.
Gist isn't going to be the next Dennis Rodman?! Now I'm dissapointed :-(Arenas, West and Rodman was being realist!?!
Dude shoots ~57 percent from three point range, and people ask if it's a fluke?
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