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    Should I just post this in the unpopular opinion thread? This is my damn opinion and none of you can refute it.

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    Well acted, well written but not best comic book film of all time.

    What is?

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    but not best comic book film of all time.
    What comic book movie did you think was better? Some people say Batman Begins > TDK, but from everybody else (critics/viewers) say it is the best CB movie of all time.

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    What comic book movie did you think was better? Some people say Batman Begins > TDK, but from everybody else (critics/viewers) say it is the best CB movie of all time.
    TDK is the best comic book movie made.

    I'd like to see someone make an arguement for another one.

    Iron Man is close, but no cigar.
    They are worlds apart.

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    I haven't seen a better comic book movie.

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    Wagons East.

    Great movie because John Candy died before it was released.

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    What comic book movie did you think was better? Some people say Batman Begins > TDK, but from everybody else (critics/viewers) say it is the best CB movie of all time.
    The critics are falling over themselves on this movie and its really sad.
    List of what I thought was better...

    Superman 2
    Spider Man 2
    Batman Begins
    X-Men2

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    The critics are falling over themselves on this movie and its really sad.
    List of what I thought was better...

    Superman 2
    Spider Man 2
    Batman Begins
    X-Men2
    It's your opinion, and that's fine.

    But, with the exception of Batman Begins, all those other movies aren't grounded in realism the way TDK is.

    That's the biggest difference, and that's why it has Oscar potential.

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    It's your opinion, and that's fine.

    But, with the exception of Batman Begins, all those other movies aren't grounded in realism the way TDK is.

    That's the biggest difference, and that's why it has Oscar potential.
    You can say the same for Batman Begins.
    Heath Ledger drives the oscar talk. Deservedly so.
    Not the movie overall.

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    It would have been awesome if the Joker had a scene in a courtroom. They would have had to have added another dimension to the story possibly, but just in general I was hoping for more Joker scenes. He carried the movie. I thought the way they handled two face's story takes away from the movie.

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    The way Two face burned his face was pretty boring. I would have like to have seent he joker have direct involvement in that.

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    The critics are falling over themselves on this movie and its really sad.
    List of what I thought was better...

    Superman 2
    Spider Man 2
    Batman Begins
    X-Men2
    Your opnion..........but

    Superman 2 is a whole different type of comic book movie set in the 80's completely different generations................and IMO it isn't all tht it's cracked up to be. I don't buy the whole hype that christopher reeves superman is top notch just because he injured himself.

    The Spiderman and the rest of the marvel franchises that have been made into to real live adaptions all suck. All the marvel films have failed in my opnion in translating their comic book counterparts into a good comic book movie. X-Men, FF, Spiderman, Hulk all were bad IMO. Iron is like the lone exception and even then they changed a lot about it.

    In the comics Joker didn't have direct involvement in the burning of two faces face. It was orginally sal maroni who threw sulfuric acid in Dent's face during a trial.

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    If DDL died, more people would have seen TWBB IMO without question. And, if those people saw it they would have undoubtedly appreciated it.
    It's possible that Daniel Day Lewis' death would have brought more viewers to There Will Be Blood.

    But it's probable that There Will Be Blood with a dead Daniel Day Lewis would still have considerably fewer viewers than The Dark Knight with a live Heath Ledger. They're just really too different to compare. The hype machine for The Dark Knight started the minute the credits started rolling at the end of the first screening of Batman Begins. If not sooner. And the hype machine for the next installment has already started, despite the fact that no one associated with The Dark Knight has even signed on to make it. That never, ever would have been the case with a film like There Will Be Blood. It's not the way the business works.

    HOWEVER, if the original intention of this entire argument was to point out that Hollywood/celebrity are glorified popularity contests, and that countless acclaim worthy performances go unnoticed every year because they're tucked away in films no one sees, I still think that Daniel Day Lewis' multi-award winning performance is a ty example. Which was my point from the start.

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    It's possible that Daniel Day Lewis' death would have brought more viewers to There Will Be Blood.

    But it's probable that There Will Be Blood with a dead Daniel Day Lewis would still have considerably fewer viewers than The Dark Knight with a live Heath Ledger. They're just really too different to compare. The hype machine for The Dark Knight started the minute the credits started rolling at the end of the first screening of Batman Begins. If not sooner. And the hype machine for the next installment has already started, despite the fact that no one associated with The Dark Knight has even signed on to make it. That never, ever would have been the case with a film like There Will Be Blood. It's not the way the business works.

    HOWEVER, if the original intention of this entire argument was to point out that Hollywood/celebrity are glorified popularity contests, and that countless acclaim worthy performances go unnoticed every year because they're tucked away in films no one sees, I still think that Daniel Day Lewis' multi-award winning performance is a ty example. Which was my point from the start.
    That.

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    [QUOTE=CuckingFunt;2682391] And the hype machine for the next installment has already started, despite the fact that no one associated with The Dark Knight has even signed on to make it. [QUOTE]

    Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Gary Oldman are all three signed on for 3 movies total.

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    Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Gary Oldman are all three signed on for 3 movies total.
    But, they're not committed to a third movie.

    They might just walk away from it alltogether if they don't find a script they like.

    Nolan and Bale have both said that they will walk away if the studio insists on bringing Robin into the series.

    So, just because they originally signed a contract for 3 movies, it doesn't mean that they have to, or even want to, make a third movie.

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    It's possible that Daniel Day Lewis' death would have brought more viewers to There Will Be Blood.

    But it's probable that There Will Be Blood with a dead Daniel Day Lewis would still have considerably fewer viewers than The Dark Knight with a live Heath Ledger. They're just really too different to compare. The hype machine for The Dark Knight started the minute the credits started rolling at the end of the first screening of Batman Begins. If not sooner. And the hype machine for the next installment has already started, despite the fact that no one associated with The Dark Knight has even signed on to make it. That never, ever would have been the case with a film like There Will Be Blood. It's not the way the business works.

    HOWEVER, if the original intention of this entire argument was to point out that Hollywood/celebrity are glorified popularity contests, and that countless acclaim worthy performances go unnoticed every year because they're tucked away in films no one sees, I still think that Daniel Day Lewis' multi-award winning performance is a ty example. Which was my point from the start.
    this pretty much sums up what I was trying to do. thank you. I thought people would understand this immediately, but it got it got out of hand I just thought I'd have more fun by milking it and letting all the batman fans get butthurt over statements and "demand" answers like it's the end of the world.


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    But, they're not committed to a third movie.

    They might just walk away from it alltogether if they don't find a script they like.

    Nolan and Bale have both said that they will walk away if the studio insists on bringing Robin into the series.

    So, just because they originally signed a contract for 3 movies, it doesn't mean that they have to, or even want to, make a third movie.
    Of course not. Bale or Caine or Oldman could croak before it happens. I was correcting the previous poster.
    If Nolan is involved, it won't suck.

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    I gave a better ex. when I said capote.

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    I gave a better ex. when I said capote.
    Just as bad an example as the previous one.

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    Just as bad an example as the previous one.
    I don't know too many people who saw the movie.

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    amazing film...

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    I don't know too many people who saw the movie.
    But he won an Oscar and was a critical darling, so the performance was still appreciated.

    And it's still not the type of movie that ever, on any level, under any cir stances, would have grabbed the type of audience that Batman would. It wouldn't even grab the type of audience that Meet The Spartans would. In fact, the size of the audience for Capote (and There Will Be Blood) far exceeded predictions largely because of the buzz surrounding the lead performance.

    Trust me, I get the point you're trying to make. And there are several areas in which I agree with that point. I just think the examples you're using to make it are poor choices. If you'd like to complain about good performances going unnoticed, cite Forest Whitaker in Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai, or Johnny Depp in Dead Man, or Guy Pearce in The Proposition, etc. There are plenty examples out there of performances that really were almost completely ignored.

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    TDK is the best comic book movie made.

    I'd like to see someone make an arguement for another one.

    Iron Man is close, but no cigar.
    They are worlds apart.
    Road To Perdition, The Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, Sin City, and Iron Man were all more enjoyable and better movies to me.

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    Road To Perdition, The Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, Sin City, and Iron Man were all more enjoyable and better movies to me.
    The Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, and Iron Man are all a matter of opinion (I liked The Dark Knight better than all three).

    Road to Perdition and Sin City, though (and I'd add From and Ghost World to this list), are films that I'd consider as good as The Dark Knight, but are based on graphic novels. I, personally, think that slight difference in source material puts them in a separate category. But, that's just me.

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