Mahorn should get fined and suspended from the professional sports for the rest of his life...you don't push a female like Leslie aka the queen of LA like that....i dont care for what reason...just can't!
Get a grip. He didn't push Lisa Leslie. He extended his arms to prevent her from going back into the pile where the others were still fighting and possibly jumping on one of his players. And if you watched the replay, Lisa Leslie was swinging at Mahorn to boot. Mahorn used poor judgment, but he didn't push Leslie. He was trying to break up the fight.
How many games should Candace Parker get for throwing two punches?
Also, if you watch the video, Michael Cooper did the same exact thing pushing Detroit Shock players back once the fight broke out. What's your stance on Michael Cooper putting his hands on Detroit players?
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LA fans are pussies when it comes to the NBA it shouldn't be a surprise they are bigger pussies when it comes to the WNBA.
I'm glad someone can appreciate the WNBA.
I've said it before, they're not as good as the men, but the quality of the league has improved greatly over the last few years.
It took the NBA a long time to reach the level it has today, and maybe
someday, the women will be just as good as the men. maybe.
I'm a guy, and the Pistons will always be my first team, but I like the Shock a lot too, they play hard every night win or lose.
It was great to be at the Championship game in 2006.
. Exactly, those women aren't nearly as good as the men but you can see they are playing with heart in that league. That is why I can enjoy their games. I also watched that series in 2006 vs Sacramento when the Shock won their le. I was very proud, I think they would have beat phoenix last year if Cheryl ford was completely healthy.
I agree.
Unfortunately, I witnessed game five in person. what a bummer.
My stance is thats a bunch of bull ! The only one Cooper pushed was the referee trying to break up the fight. He was extending his arms trying to get space between the players. Mahorn faced up to Leslie one on one and pushed her with two hands knocking her down. Did he mean to? I doubt it but he did and he should think before using force on an inferior woman. He should be suspended!
It was good to see the girls show heart in coming to the aid of their team mate against a much bigger man in Mahorn than them put together. LA HEART!!!
You weren't watching it objectively then. Michael Cooper did the same thing Mahorn did. Put his hands on Detroit players to keep them at bay. The Detroit players didn't fall down though. Mahorn did not push or shove. He extended his arms out, just like Cooper, to prevent Leslie from getting back into the pile. Leslie tripped over herself anyway. She wasn't pushed down. And, she was swinging at Mahorn to get back into the pile when she did fall down.
I don't condone any man getting physical on a woman in anger. This wasn't one of those cases. It was an extreme incident and Mahorn was trying to get players from making things worse. Mahorn should have worried more about his Detroit players. Same can be said of Cooper. In that regard, they used poor judgment. But, neither was wrong in terms of having malicious intent or in trying to break up the fight. If you think so, you're ing re ed.
u just made my point. that was why it WAS different. u wanna break up a fight seperate your own players. i didnt see cooper pushing any opposing players. mahorn faced up leslie and pushed her with enough force to FALL DOWN. did he push her hard? who knows but it was hard enough for her to fall down. mahorn is 6'10" and 350 pounds man. high school athletes or pro's a female is a female. i dont know if your married but imagine if leslie was ure wife. how pissed are you today? id be fukin pissed.
im not defending coop or bill or any of the refs. and even mahorn was prolly trying to keep the players from fighting more but the result of coop and bill's intervention was NO ONE FELL TO ON THE GROUND. result of mahorn?........
keep in mind this wasnt the first time he was involved in this. yea he was a bad boy in the 80's but he was also an announcer in the artest brawl and he went up to the stands to break it up. funny how trouble follows his fat ass around
Cooper did push Detroit players away. I already mentioned it in this thread. When the fight broke out, Cooper went in and pushed two Detroit players away. Not hard, not maliciously. But, Cooper also extended his arms and was touching Detroit players the same way Mahorn did.
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So much for your point.
And, if you read this thread, you wouldn't have made the point about my wife. My wife isn't a 6-foot-5 professional athlete in the middle of a fight. You can't compare. If I was married to a 6-foot-5 professional women's basketball player and a fight broke out and she fell to the ground in the middle of that fight, I'd be upset, but I would understand that it was in the middle of a fight. Extenuating cir stances. High emotion. There was a lot of physical contact among a lot of people. I would be upset that the fight occurred. I wouldn't be upset that she fell on the ground. Stop trying to compare this situation with a person's wife or mother or sister or daughter who isn't a professional basketball player. It's a horrible analogy.
As for the Artest comment. Again, stupid to even bring up. Mahorn went into the stands and restrained Artest to stop him from throwing punches. That actually supports how Mahorn shouldn't be viewed in a negative way in this instance.
I like the Shock too, they are one of the better team of the league and they play with a lot of passion. They are tough girls, Detroit style.I agree.
Unfortunately, I witnessed game five in person. what a bummer.
nope disagree. none of the players he pushed fell down. look at mahorns follow through and the way leslie is falling
look at his facial expression!
picture is worth a thousand words.
about your point that ure wife isnt 6'5". when the man pushing ure wife is 200 pounds heavier than your wife i dont care who is it under any cir stances. that man is getting his arse kicked
Honestly, you need to get a grip. First of all, Lisa Leslie was swinging on Rick Mahorn when he was trying to prevent her from getting back into the pile.
In the second picture, that Sparks player had just pushed him with both hands in the back and was about to punch him. Think about that before criticizing his "facial expression."
A picture might be worth a thousand words. The story is several thousands words long. The actual video tells the story.
I'm not condoning what Mahorn did. He should have been worrying about his players. But not only was his actions not malicious, they were well intended, with the intent to break up the fight.
Again, Mahorn did NOT push Leslie. He was trying to prevent her from going back into the fight. If you run towards a wall and then hit it, you might fall down. Did the wall push you down?
What's ing re ed is trying to compare what Cooper did to what Mahorn did. I already stated that I didn't think Mahorn was trying to do what he did but the facts remain that he did! I call bull on Leslie swinging on Mahorn, Mahorn was in her face like she was another man and she was trying to get him off of her. Which is what happens when confronted by an opposing player/coach during the heat of battle. Cooper was extended his arms to keep everyone away from each other, the same thing that Mahorn was doing earlier in the brawl. Why he chose to face up on Leslie is the question. It was no need for him to rare up on Leslie, which is what he did.
Leslie swung on Mahorn and actually connected. Mahorn did have his hands on Leslie trying to keep her away, and she swung on him, and Mahorn did have his arms extended so the contact did cause Leslie to fall backwards.
Leslie swings and punches on Mahorn clear as day.
As for why Mahorn was facing up on Leslie, I watched the video again and more closely. When Mahorn got into the pile to break it up, Leslie was running to get back in the pile and she had her hands on one of the Detroit players. Mahorn was getting Leslie off of one of his players.
nope but the wall doesnt have hands that follow through as shown in the picture.
you say the socal people are looking at it from a nonobjective point of view. i think u are the one being not looking at an objective point of view.
FACT mahon's actions caused a player to fall.
how can u say he didnt push leslie? look at the first pic. look at his hands follow throughing. look at the way leslie is falling. if she was falling on her own she would be falling head and shoulder first. its the cause someone pushed her chest that her torso is concave like that.
we can agree to disagree. all i know is i can guarantee you the mahorn will get suspended and probably the steepest punishment too.
Are you even looking at the video, Mahorn clearly went to separate Lisa Leslie from Katie Smith, he gets between them but Leslie keeps going forward. Even Milton Jones was trying to hold her back.
Mahorn's extended arm absolutely played a role in Leslie falling. But, he did not push or shove her. He had his arm extended to try to prevent her from getting back into the pile. He did not shove or push her down. He was walking her back, and she swung on him, his arm extended straightened out and that plus her own actions caused her to fall.
Mahorn was doing the same thing Cooper was doing. The reason the Detroit players Cooper was holding back didn't fall down to the ground was because two of those players were pulling one player back already. Lisa Leslie was aggressively trying to get back into the pile moving forward. She met a big man. She swung. He extended his arm to hold her back. She falls back.
Watch the video I posted.
That is a better video of the brawl.That video does show what looks like leslie swiping at Mahorns arms, imo to get him to let go of her and it clearly shows that Mahorn pushed her down with force, not much but enough to knock her on her ass.
He was the only non player ejected so obviously they saw something that we can't see.
Extended his arm while she took a swing at Mahorn. Tell me if someone takes a swing to punch you, are you going to just let them hit you? If he wanted to use force, he would have SHOVED her down. He was holding her back. And, when she swung at him, he extended his arm. It wasn't a push. It wasn't a shove.
You want to characterize Leslie's actions as a "swiping" at Mahorn's arms to get him to let go. But, you can't see why he would extend his arm out when she swings at him?
Come on now.
Leslie is a terrible actress. She must have been watching nash on youtube cause she flew for no reason.
True.
And it was more Leslie losing her footing and falling on her ass than anything. Anyonne(L.A. fans) who can't see that is an idiot.
Parker now knows there are some hard core es in the Wnba. She'll think twice from now on.
Honestly, you're an idiot.
I didn't call Mahorn a victim. I explained his facial expression. Trying to break up a fight and being pushed and punched in the back, is he supposed to be smiling? ing re ed to talk about his facial expression as if that explains his intent as he is being attacked from behind.
Mahorn did try to hold back the Sparks players. When he first got into the pile, Lisa Leslie had her hands on two Shock players. Mahorn was taking Leslie off of his players. Leslie wasn't having it and was trying to get back into the pile. Mahorn was trying to hold her back. Yes he extended his arm and that played a role in her falling back. But he did not push or shove her down.
Lisa Leslie clearly swung at Mahorn. That's what made Mahorn extend his arm further. If a person swings on you, you don't take your hands back so the punch can hit you. Cooper didn't take his hands back. The Shock players he had his hands on were pulling back themselves. If they were moving forward to get back in the pile, Cooper would have held them off the same way Mahorn did Leslie.
Mahorn did walk towards Leslie as she fell down and he probably was going to try to help her up. That's when the Sparks coach grabbed him and that other Sparks player pushed and punched him in the back. How is he going to help her up when he's being held and attacked? He didn't apologize or say "my bad" because he knew he didn't push her. He didn't push her or shove her therefore he didn't say "my bad." Simple enough to understand except for some of you LA fans.
Enough with the facial expression . If someone shoves you from behind and punches you. You're not going to look happy. WTF is his facial expression supposed to look like.
And as for the video you posted underneath that post, I didn't even watch it. It was a video 20 years ago as Mahorn the player. Has nothing to do with what happened the other night and you know it.
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