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    Is report now Olympiacos is talks with agent of Ben Gordon. They will try buyout remaining contract of Lynn Greer and will try sign Ben Gordon as replacement. Offer is more money than Childress get.

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    What the is going on?

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    What the is going on?
    I have been says this for long time here now and am just laugh at by everyone. Big owners in Europe has made decision they will now try to compete with NBA. They is very angry because Stern is make plans to have NBA Europe league and want try make Europe teams join or he want take over Euroleague.

    When this happen big owners get together and decide to actual spend money they have. These is teams much richer than any team of NBA. For first time they decide now they will make NBA feel pressure.

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    David Stern is such an idiot.

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    links?? sources?

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    "Big owners in Europe has made decision they will now try to compete with NBA."

    If the $ were strong, this probaby wouldn't be happening.

    With the $ so low, NBA "products" are inexpensive vs Euro prices.

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    Getting a mid-level player like Childress is one thing, but if they manage to get a guy of the skill level & popularity of Ben Gordon, that will be a major blow to the NBA.

    What happens in 2010 when Global Icon LeBron is fielding offers and a European team offers him half a billion or something crazy?

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    "Big owners in Europe has made decision they will now try to compete with NBA."

    If the $ were strong, this probaby wouldn't be happening.

    With the $ so low, NBA "products" are inexpensive vs Euro prices.
    Yes it must be Stern not think about this when he try force his demands on Europe teams. He must forget this at time. Because tax difference and because exchange rate was not smart decision him try test resolve of these very rich clubs in Europe.

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    what are the salary rules in Euroleague? Is there a salary cap or max contracts? Or is it completely open like baseball?

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    what are the salary rules in Euroleague? Is there a salary cap or max contracts? Or is it completely open like baseball?
    Dude, no rules in the Euroleague. That's why the NBA cannot compete right now with their LLE, MLE and maximum team salary caps. If they decide to take the gloves off and spend the money these clubs have available from Soccer revenues and private owners personal money, then guess what, the NBA is screwed.

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    Getting a mid-level player like Childress is one thing, but if they manage to get a guy of the skill level & popularity of Ben Gordon, that will be a major blow to the NBA.

    What happens in 2010 when Global Icon LeBron is fielding offers and a European team offers him half a billion or something crazy?
    I do not think owners in Europe will want spend kind of money to make player like Lebon leave NBA. I not know Wade says he would think about leave for $30 million net per season. he say for $40 million net per season he will sign definite in Europe.

    Lebron should want more these is too crazy I think even for richest owners in Europe. Yes they will spend such on soccer players and not think even about it but I not sure they would so so on basketball player.

    Of course chance get such big name maybe never know.

    Kobe say for $50 million net for 2 season he will join Europe. So for $25 million net he will go Europe. I believe for player such as Kobe and price of $25 million net several teams of Europe would make offer.

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    Dude, no rules in the Euroleague. That's why the NBA cannot compete right now with their LLE, MLE and maximum team salary caps. If they decide to take the gloves off and spend the money these clubs have available from Soccer revenues and private owners personal money, then guess what, the NBA is screwed.
    Is open. Strange is Europe is socialism and is complete free market for players and teams do as please with money. America is supposed be "free market" and NBA is have rules that is similar to Soviet style economy.

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    Dude, no rules in the Euroleague. That's why the NBA cannot compete right now with their LLE, MLE and maximum team salary caps. If they decide to take the gloves off and spend the money these clubs have available from Soccer revenues and private owners personal money, then guess what, the NBA is screwed.
    damn, that's crazy.

    I bet one of the big catches in the 2010 F.A. market will wind up with a European team.

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    Eh, the rich Euro teams will run up the salaries until the poorer teams can't compete anymore, then they'll get a salary cap or revenue sharing agreement too. It works too well for all the owners to not eventually do that.

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    Eh, the rich Euro teams will run up the salaries until the poorer teams can't compete anymore, then they'll get a salary cap or revenue sharing agreement too. It works too well for all the owners to not eventually do that.
    No. Different way in Europe. If teams is to poor to keep up they is relegate out of league.

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    I'd like to see economics behind this huge contracts, it is bussines after all .
    I am afraid that this baloon will pop in two to three years

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    If a club in the USA can pay David Beckham big bucks to come play for the Galaxy in what must be a totally scrub club in a scrub league compared to super clubs like Chelsea, Manchester or PAO, then certainly it can work in reverse especially now that the exchange rate is 1.59 Euros to 1.00 Dollars. Someone over there is bound to offer Kobe $25 million dollars a year for two years.

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    No. Different way in Europe. If teams is to poor to keep up they is relegate out of league.
    To be replaced by whom?

    If enough teams can't make the cut, they'll change the rules.

    Now if there is actually enough money in basketball to be made without huge subsidies from soccer teams and the like, this inflation may continue for awhile.

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    To be replaced by whom?

    If enough teams can't make the cut, they'll change the rules.

    Eventually but consider conditions in the Euroleague like the Wild Wild West at least for now. There just aren't any rules.

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    Eventually but consider conditions in the Euroleague like the Wild Wild West at least for now. There just aren't any rules.
    I meant eventually.

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    If a club in the USA can pay David Beckham big bucks to come play for the Galaxy in what must be a totally scrub club in a scrub league compared to super clubs like Chelsea, Manchester or PAO, then certainly it can work in reverse especially now that the exchange rate is 1.59 Euros to 1.00 Dollars. Someone over there is bound to offer Kobe $25 million dollars a year for two years.
    Yes I actual think this one is very possible for player such as Kobe for such amount.

    CSKA or PAO would do this I think.

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    To be replaced by whom?

    If enough teams can't make the cut, they'll change the rules.

    Now if there is actually enough money in basketball to be made without huge subsidies from soccer teams and the like, this inflation may continue for awhile.
    In Europe sports no one cares if some owners is lose money or if some is to poor to compete with others who is richer. Is not social system like NBA or NFL. Is not even like MLB system either. Is just free market. If some owners is to poor to keep up with others no one care. If some owners wants spend like crazy not matter what this mean no one care.

    In Europe poor owners actual enjoy this most of all. As soon as they get good players they start bidding wars and sell them to highest bidders. Look at team like Partizan or Aris. Owners cannot wait to sell best players in Europe like Jeremiah Massey and Nikola Pekovic. Owner then put money in own pocket because some rich owners is willing pay big money for them.

    Is nothing like mentality in US sports.

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    In Europe sports no one cares if some owners is lose money or if some is to poor to compete with others who is richer. Is not social system like NBA or NFL. Is not even like MLB system either. Is just free market. If some owners is to poor to keep up with others no one care. If some owners wants spend like crazy not matter what this mean no one care.

    In Europe poor owners actual enjoy this most of all. As soon as they get good players they start bidding wars and sell them to highest bidders. Look at team like Partizan or Aris. Owners cannot wait to sell best players in Europe like Jeremiah Massey and Nikola Pekovic. Owner then put money in own pocket because some rich owners is willing pay big money for them.

    Is nothing like mentality in US sports.
    hmm probably the way it ought to be: Survival of the fittest. Plus if these poor owners are good at getting players and developing them and selling to rich club, soon they themselves will be rich and then be able to field a good team.

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    Yeah, the system of relegation land advancement makes less of an argument for controlling costs. There are some other factors involved like the international leagues and how they are composed, but for the most part Europeans seem used to that kind of fluidity.

    Really, once the Fed decided to raise interest rates, this will be less of an issue -- but nobody wants to go through the pain that is going to cause.

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    Strange is Europe is socialism...
    wtf?

    If a club in the USA can pay David Beckham big bucks to come play for the Galaxy in what must be a totally scrub club in a scrub league compared to super clubs like Chelsea, Manchester or PAO, then certainly it can work in reverse especially now that the exchange rate is 1.59 Euros to 1.00 Dollars. Someone over there is bound to offer Kobe $25 million dollars a year for two years.
    I couldn't agree more, but then again David Beckham has never been an elite midfielder. He's a one-trick pony and more like the Jason Kapono of soccer.

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