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+1"When I see it I'm constantly reminded how lucky I am," he said.
And when I saw this, I was reminded how lucky we are!!
Wow, now thoses are some serious balls. There isn't water cold enough to cause shrinkage on those things.
God bless them both.
+1"When I see it I'm constantly reminded how lucky I am," he said.
And when I saw this, I was reminded how lucky we are!!
In all honesty that is the 1st thing I would think of throwing the grenade away given that I have a certain amount of time. 1st thing I thought of when I read that he had 7 seconds to react. I didn't need rambo to figure that out, in fact rambo has never done that he's usually running or dodging grenades.
This isn't about what you would think to do first!Its whether you would be able to think at all, let alone be able to make a quick, intelligent decision as to what to do to save you and the people around you. The dude didn't know he had 7 seconds. Its not like the ing grenade comes with a timer. For all he knew the grenade was about to explode any second. Most people would freeze in that situation. My guess is so would you.
Your probably right, but whatever happend -- the grenade went off too late, whether it was faulty or whoever threw it didn't know how long they had, but if I knew I had 7 seconds and there was a live grenade 10 feet away from me I would do that, but in reality you don't know how much time you have, I guess that's what I was trying to say. But usually I expect when somebody throws a grenade they are smart enough to calculate how long they should wait before they throw it so it explodes on contact or pretty damn close, whoever threw it did a bad a job.This isn't about what you would think to do first!
Uh, no. A bad job is when it explodes in your hand.
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I'm assuming people who work with grenades generally know how to maximize their uses and know how long exactly you have before it explodes. You'd be an idiot or a novice if it exploded in your hand. The aim of the person who threw the grenade was to injure/kill as many people as possible. He ed up and didn't do a very good job when his targets had 7 seconds to spare and no one got killed and all that happened was an injury, which is on it's way to being healed. Pretty bad job if you ask me on what his goals/intentions were. Heath Ledger FTW
Just one question: have you ever thrown a live grenade?
No. Don't know why it's funny. Don't they get training (military/mercenaries/terrorists/whoever uses grenades) on how to work grenades like an average time they have until it goes off with a std deviation? Not rocket science.............you wait until the right time to throw it.
Actually I can infer from the Jackie Chan movie Project A, which used a live marine force crew and actual seargents for the movie for authenticiy. the marine force that chan was a part of were getting training on how to use grenades and they were using duds at first and the captain said you have to wait like a certain amount of time after you pull the clip (forgot exactly) depending on how far you are throwing it to get the best result possible.
Ummm. did you read the story? It wasnt thrown. It was trip wired.
Any internet warrior can claim they would have done this or that. The fact is this guy did it. In your case of bravado, hindsite is 20/20. Are you next going to tell us if someone pulled a gun on you, you would know exactly what to do and take the guy down in a few seconds? Get over yourself and think of the reality of what goes on in these situations.
I know your not discrediting this guys bravery and Im not trying to discredit you either, but to think that you would have that type of courage and quick thinking in a situation like that (one Im willing to bet you have never been in) is crazy talk.
My brother is in Iraq and I constantly think to myself, if he got captured, I would find a way to Iraq and somehow save him with my one man army. Sure, I would try, but I know enough that I would probably get myself killed quite quickly in the process.
Last edited by phyzik; 07-24-2008 at 11:35 PM.
yes. if I am in a ghetto area I carry two wallets one decoy one real and i throw the fake wallet on the ground behind him or chuck it and then I karate chop his ass.........j/k i actually run. This is assuming they want to rob me. this is what my 7th grade teacher told me taht if you are every going to be assaulted for your wallet it's not worth it and you should just throw it in the opposite direction and wait for him to go get and then that is you run, i invented the decoy wallet part. also if you watched the reality series human weapon on history channel they tell you how to disarm a person with a gun i saw how to do it and it looked doable, but i would never do that.
What I'm saying about the grenade: If a grenade was thrown at me at suprise I wouldn't know what to do and would panic like mostly everybody else, but if I know that I have a certain amount of time before that goes off I react much better dependign on much time I have. I didn't know it was trip wired. I read the 1st two paragraphs and stopped.
well, if you saw it in a Jackie Chan movie...
seriously though, phyzik is right. It was tripped by him. No one threw it.
Given that phyzik's scenario involved a gun, I'd say running isn't the most intelligent thing to do
I have a feeling that decoy wallet is going to get you shot someday. I've been mugged at knife point AND at gun point. Personally, I didn't exactly freeze, but I could tell you I was scared less. All I did both times, out of instinct really, was give them my wallet and hope they'd just take the money and leave. Fortunately, they did.This is assuming they want to rob me. this is what my 7th grade teacher told me taht if you are every going to be assaulted for your wallet it's not worth it and you should just throw it in the opposite direction and wait for him to go get and then that is you run, i invented the decoy wallet.
fair enough, but how are you supposed to know you have time? this isn't CoD 4 we're talking about.What I'm saying about the grenade: If a grenade was thrown at me at suprise I wouldn't know what to do and would panic like mostly everybody else, but if I know that I have a certain amount of time before that goes off I react much better dependign on much time I have. I didn't know it was trip wired. I read the 1st two paragraphs and stopped.
I agree with everything you said. The last part I agree to, but I orginally stated that if I had 7 seconds and there was a grenade next to me this is what I would have done, so it was a hypothetical situation to begin with and witha controlled grenade.Given that phyzik's scenario involved a gun, I'd say running isn't the most intelligent thing to do
I have a feeling that decoy wallet is going to get you shot someday. I've been mugged at knife point AND at gun point. Personally, I didn't exactly freeze, but I could tell you I was scared less. All I did both times, out of instinct really, was give them my wallet and hope they'd just take the money and leave. Fortunately, they did.
fair enough, but how are you supposed to know you have time? this isn't CoD 4 we're talking about.
I've never been robbed at gun point before and hopefully I never will, the only advice I have ever gotten is to just hand them my stuff. So I've never had to resort to my set of fake wallets.
I got robbed at knife point once when I had a broken leg. I was stupid enough to give a guy a ride while it was raining. He made me go to the ATM and withdraw money then took off on foot. Big mistake for him. I ran his ass over and called the cops. I was charged with assault with a deadly weapon but it was dismissed after the jurry found out why I did it. Yay for me!
The guy survived, he just smashed into my hood and windshield pretty bad.
note to self: no more free rides.
the fact was, I was scared less while he had that knife on me, it wasnt until after he got out of the car that I decided to do something. In hindsight, it was pretty stupid, I could have killed someone over $80 which was all I had in my account. I got it back, btw.
Last edited by phyzik; 07-25-2008 at 12:01 AM.
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LMAO I wonder if Chappy Sinclair would help phyzik?Iron Eagle forum.
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