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    Herb Rudoy, who represents Ginobili, told Insider's Chad Ford on Wednesday that he still had not received a formal offer from Denver for the Spurs' restricted free agent, but they expect one any time. "I'm waiting around like an expectant mother," Rudoy said.

    denver never offered one
    they were afraid spurs would match

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    Dude. I spelled it right, and wrong, in one post, in a reply. Yet you go on about it. The it changes the meaning? Try reading?? Geez dude.

    I talk out of my ass?



    YOU replied to me to start with. YOU started this . And YOU say I TALK out of MY ASS?


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    Information at the time put Denver offering the max or near-max money for Ginobili. He was their free-agent priority at the time. After Manu got married in Argentina and told his agent, Rudoy, that he wanted to remain a Spur, Denver extended an offer sheet for the max to K-Mart.
    Here's an article from that time: LINK

    Obviously, Manu signed for far less with the Spurs.
    They weren't offering max or near max money to him. They had discussions with him and many others. They chose Kenyon Martin over doing that. I have talked to several people in the Nuggets organization about it. I'm not slighting Manu - maybe if Rudoy pushed it, negotiations would have gone further. I'm just saying that Manu never turned down a bigger offer and went for less money from the Spurs. He was never made a bigger offer.

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    Read the thread.

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    Herb Rudoy, who represents Ginobili, told Insider's Chad Ford on Wednesday that he still had not received a formal offer from Denver for the Spurs' restricted free agent, but they expect one any time. "I'm waiting around like an expectant mother," Rudoy said.

    denver never offered one
    they were afraid spurs would match
    He actually reached an agreement with San Antonio before Denver could extend their offer. If you can read (I know articles about Ginobili really bother you), here's a link: LINK

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    He was offered more money in Denver... you know who he signed a contract with...
    Not true.

    He wasn't offered more money by Denver.

    That's my point.

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    I hope he goes back to wherever after 2010, he won't be worth the money he'll command

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    I hope he goes back to wherever after 2010, he won't be worth the money he'll command

    Yikes. I hope not. I hope he stays here and wins more les.

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    European teams will be tripping over themselves trying to steal Manu in 2010. Especially the teams in Spain. With that in mind, the Spurs must give him a contract extension. I know the Spurs were playing hardball with Manu to try to get him to skip the Olympics but they need to realize Euro teams will drive up the price of re-signing him unless they give him advanced security.

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    They weren't offering max or near max money to him. They had discussions with him and many others. They chose Kenyon Martin over doing that. I have talked to several people in the Nuggets organization about it. I'm not slighting Manu - maybe if Rudoy pushed it, negotiations would have gone further. I'm just saying that Manu never turned down a bigger offer and went for less money from the Spurs. He was never made a bigger offer.
    I know you're not slighting Manu and I never said he turned down any offer (I stand corrected, I did say it. My mistake.). I actually said he agreed to remain a Spur before Denver could sign an offer sheet. We'll never know what the offer was/could have been. Some rumors I've seen mention 6 years starting at 9 mill (LINK). That's a lot less the Spurs ended up paying him (he's set to make a little over 9 mill this year).
    Don't forget that Denver ended up giving Kenyon Martin a 6 year/83 million contract, with a 15 million signing bonus. It doesn't sound that weird if they would offer 65-70 million for Manu (I mean, the Spurs ended up paying 55 million IIRC).

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    No Really.

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    Not true.

    He wasn't offered more money by Denver.

    That's my point.
    You're correct. I phrased that incorrectly. My mistake.

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    I thought I remember hearing that Denver really liked him but because he was a Restricted Free Agent they knew that the Spurs would probably try to match and so they didn't really want to take the risk.

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    with this, it totally s up our plan with splitter

    if nba stars start to bolt to euro for money, then why would splitter come to the spurs when his a fa? could just stay in euro for a lucrative offer

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    Unless the Spurs can sign Manu to a contract extension that lowers his number in 2010 and beyond, I don't see why they need to negotiate at this point?

    His contract is very reasonable for what he brings to the Spurs at this point, but assuming that Manu will keep up this production given his injury history and reliance on his first step would be dangerous.

    I think the best thing for the Spurs is to hold off extension talks and keep maximum flexibility going into the Summer of 2010.

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    LOL,

    American mega-stars have way too big of egos to go play in Europe for a couple extra mil.

    Sucking out all the talent, they are luring away Scrubs. Big deal.



    Manu is Manu. After 2010, if he wants to get paid, god bless him.

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    LOL,

    American mega-stars have way too big of egos to go play in Europe for a couple extra mil.

    Sucking out all the talent, they are luring away Scrubs. Big deal.



    Manu is Manu. After 2010, if he wants to get paid, god bless him.
    Ya, why would a multimillionaire want to live in Spain, or Greece, or Italy when they could live in NO, or Seattle, or Oakland, or Salt Lake City, or Cleveland?

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    Ya, why would a multimillionaire want to live in Spain, or Greece, or Italy when they could live in NO, or Seattle, or Oakland, or Salt Lake City, or Cleveland?
    Are you kidding me? ask any american that has visited all those cities to see where they'd choose to live if given the chance (ofcourse living in europe is WAY more expensive than in america)... ah.. i was forgetting... check the crime rates too...

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    Many People are wrong, they are thinking like FIBA is under the CBA.
    IF A player have a contract in the NBA canīt sign a contract with another team.
    Thatīs not equal in FIBA.
    Manu or everyone can sign today a contract with TAU, Olympiacos or every team in Europe for the 2010-2011 season or more

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    Many People are wrong, they are thinking like FIBA is under the CBA.
    IF A player have a contract in the NBA canīt sign a contract with another team.
    Thatīs not equal in FIBA.
    Manu or everyone can sign today a contract with TAU, Olympiacos or every team in Europe for the 2010-2011 season or more
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101895

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    Possibly. Even Manu has said that he would consider it and with Manu having accomplished as much as he can in the NBA I can see some Euro team throwing too much money to turn down.
    Where did he say this? I really think Manu will stay with the Spurs, or the NBA at least, for the rest of his playing career unless the Spurs screw him in 2010. He's an ultra-compe ive guy, and I don't see him leaving the best league in the world for money.

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    He's an ultra-compe ive guy, and I don't see him leaving the best league in the world for money.
    +1

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    Ginobili won't go back over seas. why do you think manu came over here? it's not about the money for him it's the love of the game

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    I think he will be a spurs for life. but if he decide not to play in NBA he will definitely play in Europe and not sign with other NBA team. That is how I think judging from Manus' character and his history from the day spurs draft him. Manu is spurs for life, i can be my money on this one

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    No he will retire a spur!

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