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    The only real screwup that I can see so far this summer (that the Spurs could actually control) was letting Barry get away. Maybe there were factors I'm not grasping, but if we were going into the season as things stand with Barry instead of Finley, I'd be happier.
    I think a big part of letting guys like Barry and Horry go is that they screw up the teams continuity with all their persistent injuries and DNP's. That really killed this team last season.

    I do think Tim's sub par performance is also soemwhat due to the fever he had before the NO series began, coupled with the brutal schedule afterward, it never gave him a chance to fully recover, and he (and the rest of the team) was gassed by the time the Lakers series started.

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    Uh, I wish. You didn't see a 2003 Tim Duncan in last year's playoffs and you won't be seeing him next year either.

    A few years ago Tim would have destroyed a player like Gasol. At this stage in his career, he faltered.

    Look how Garnett dominated Gasol. Tim shot something like 43% against Gasol I believe.

    The time to start factoring Tim's decline into the equation is now.

    A very gloomy but very accurate article IMO.
    TD's decline!? He was as good as ever... actually played excellent on D and O... Duncan was phenomenal in the playoffs.

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    TD's decline!? He was as good as ever... actually played excellent on D and O... Duncan was phenomenal in the playoffs. Duncan is far from starting to decline.
    Why was he not then able to take advantage of Gasol, as Garnett did in the finals?

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    Hoopsworld saying TP is playing in the Olympics

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    Why was he not then able to take advantage of Gasol, as Garnett did in the finals?

    Your ignorance is offensive.

    Duncan averaged 22.4 ppg and 17.4 rpg againist the lakers

    Garnett averaged 18.2 ppg and 13 rpg against the lakers

    Garnett can't hold Duncan's jock.

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    Why was he not then able to take advantage of Gasol, as Garnett did in the finals?
    Did you really watch the games? I remember thinking how disappointed I was in KG that he wasn't able to work Gasol the way that Timmy had. Duncan took advantage of Gasol moreso than Garnett, especially on the boards and on defense.

    Garnett vs. the Lakers: 18.1pts/13.0reb/3.0assists/1.66st/1block

    Duncan vs. the Lakers: 22.4pts/17.4reb/4.8assists/1.20st/2blocks
    Last edited by Kindergarten Cop; 07-28-2008 at 08:58 PM. Reason: Few corrections, still favoring TD

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    Your ignorance is offensive.

    Duncan averaged 22.4 ppg and 17.4 rpg againist the lakers

    Garnett averaged 18.2 ppg and 13 rpg against the lakers

    Garnett can't hold Duncan's jock.

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    TD's decline!? He was as good as ever... actually played excellent on D and O... Duncan was phenomenal in the playoffs.
    Your ignorance is offensive.

    Duncan averaged 22.4 ppg and 17.4 rpg againist the lakers

    Garnett averaged 18.2 ppg and 13 rpg against the lakers

    Garnett can't hold Duncan's jock.
    Did you really watch the games? I remember thinking how disappointed I was in KG that he wasn't able to work Gasol the way that Timmy had. Duncan took advantage of Gasol moreso than Garnett, especially on the boards and on defense.

    Garnett vs. the Lakers: 22.8pts/9.67reb/3.33assists/0.83st/1block

    Duncan vs. the Lakers: 22.4pts/17.4reb/4.80assists/1.20st/2blocks
    Thanks guys. You did it for me.

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    Did you really watch the games? I remember thinking how disappointed I was in KG that he wasn't able to work Gasol the way that Timmy had. Duncan took advantage of Gasol moreso than Garnett, especially on the boards and on defense.

    Garnett vs. the Lakers: 22.8pts/9.67reb/3.33assists/0.83st/1block

    Duncan vs. the Lakers: 22.4pts/17.4reb/4.80assists/1.20st/2blocks
    I think you accidently took garnetts stats from the detroit series.
    His stats against LA look more like this:

    18.2pts/13reb/3assists/1.67st/1blocks

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    Thanks guys. You did it for me.
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    I think you accidently took garnetts stats from the detroit series.
    His stats against LA look more like this:

    18.2pts/13reb/3assists/1.67st/1blocks
    You're correct, thanks for the help. Either way, we dispelled that rumor that KG played better vs. Gasol than Timmy did.

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    You ain't going nowhere this season..

    The window of oportunity is completely shut.

    No more championships for your overrated team

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    But we'll still get your rapt attention!

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    You ain't going nowhere this season..

    The window of oportunity is completely shut.

    No more championships for your overrated team
    You really need a new gimmick, Louis.

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    I like our chances even if we sign three rookies. I was looking at mason's ppg and he had a few games where he scored in the thirties (if I remember correctly). I like Hill backing up Parker and Gist and Tolliver have really impressed me. Don't know if we can sign anyone and still keep all three rookies, but I'm optimistic and I'll be getting the league pass just to see how everyone plays together....Also eager to see Ian play alongside Tim...

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    You ain't going nowhere this season..

    The window of oportunity is completely shut.

    No more championships for your overrated team
    I don't get it - are we going somewhere (championship I guess?) or are we done?

    Here's equivalent smack to this lazy trollness:

    We are never going to lose another championship again

    We are the best team to ever take the court

    All teams should bow their heads to our greatness

    Damn, seriously quit being so lazy you fat bas and come up with something entertaining.

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    Are you on active duty?
    Prior Active, I'm Reservist now (Air Force)

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    Uh, I wish. You didn't see a 2003 Tim Duncan in last year's playoffs and you won't be seeing him next year either.

    A few years ago Tim would have destroyed a player like Gasol. At this stage in his career, he faltered.

    Look how Garnett dominated Gasol. Tim shot something like 43% against Gasol I believe.

    The time to start factoring Tim's decline into the equation is now.

    A very gloomy but very accurate article IMO.
    timmy was the biggest dissappointment last season by far. everyone thought timmy was saving something for the PO's and boom the PO's started and tim looked old and slow....i wasnt the only one who timmy decline very quickly and its exactly why i say......until the FO gives timmy some real help, the spurs will get pounded in the paint...if we dont control the paint, our chances of winning go way down......to live and die from the arc is getting old

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    THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANY MORE.
    Jesus, once post season comes around we Spurs fans get all ancy, wanting more than wat we need for a le run
    we upgraded at backup Point Guard (Hill > Vaughn), Hill can a viable offensive threat
    we upgraded at SG (Mason > Finley), Mason can put it on the floor, AND hit the three
    Our Big 3 is back
    Tolliver looks like he can marginally contribute
    CALM DOWN

    WE wanted to get younger.......we did (Hill, Gist, Tolliver, Mason)
    We wanted better shooting.......we got it (Hill, (he's better than Vaughn), Tolliver, Mason)
    We wanted to keep our defense......we did (Hill, Gist, and Mahinmi aint no slouch)

    What the else can there be????? We were defeated by the Lakers, but we had chance to bust they asses, our shots just didnt fall. Now we have some people who can remedy that.

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    SPURS WILL GET POUNDED IN THE PAINT???????
    Wow, I'm pretty secure with Tim and Thomas down low. They are both strong and they will be just fine. our 1,2,3 is where we have problems......we addressed them....sit back and wait for other teams to ruin their cap space and overpay bums like Ricky Davis.

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    timmy was the biggest dissappointment last season by far. everyone thought timmy was saving something for the PO's and boom the PO's started and tim looked old and slow....i wasnt the only one who timmy decline very quickly and its exactly why i say......until the FO gives timmy some real help, the spurs will get pounded in the paint...if we dont control the paint, our chances of winning go way down......to live and die from the arc is getting old
    The quote you are agreeing with states that "Garnett dominated Gasol", when the stats show that Duncan dominated Gasol much more than KG did - so how exactly does that help your stance?

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