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    Is it just me or are teams trying to get bigger and bigger for an answer to our offense?

    And if that is so, do you see our transactions this off season to counteract these teams strategies?
    Teams are looking to match up with the spurs and lakers. But I dont think we have done enough to make us a true contender. Teams keep getting better while we wait for what??

    We could have had AK from GS for 3 mill per. Instead we got Mason for 3.75 pr yr. R Davis is getting less than 2.5 pr for 1yr with an option for the second. Houston gets Artest and has a great draft. LA gets Bynum back. The hornets sign posey giving them a very big starting 5 excluding paul.

    Clips are better, GS looks like they will be Ok, Portland should be very good,

    Im all for the 2010 plan but not at the expense of pissing away Tim and Manus prime waiting till then and hope we can win another le.

    I think the FO has done a suck ass job this summer. We should be a good team, but on paper I see us no better than 3rd unless Ian and Hill come out and really give us starter type play......like 20ppg 12rpg combined between the both of them.

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    hahaha i see what you did there!!!!!

    No.

    I would never support a trade for a head like Artest.

    If the Spurs traded for Artest, my season tickets would be someone elses.

    I wil NEVER root for a team that has Ron Artest on it, period.
    But you'd cream in your pants if we got Buckets back, and he's done more headed stuff than Artest.

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    Well, after I posted it I realized I meant to say the west in general looks like it's trying to out big each other
    I think a lot of teams are getting tired of mediocrity...keep in mind that the last 10 years have been dominated by about 2 or 3 teams, everyone else has been on the outside looking in. Teams saw what the Celtics did and now they think they might be able to make a move to either put them over the top, or completely turn around their franchise.

    This move speaks more towards the Rockets defense...they've got got shut-down guys all over the floor now. The big question is whether or not they have the leadership to put it all together once playoff time rolls around.

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    That has nothing to do with being (apparently) able to get Artest for table scraps.



    Spurs needed scoring and signed a wing with the hope he could approach anything near the 17 PPG he averaged as a starter in Washington. And Manu's coming off an Olympic trip.



    Adelman went 2-2 against Pop last year, and held us to below 90 points in 3 out of the 4 games starting Luther Head, Rafer Alston, and Dikembe Mutombo.
    Pop has a strict no assholes policy. SJax was crazy but he wasn't an asshole like Artest that tries to get himself traded from every place he's been.

    Spurs need scoring but at what expense? Ron wouldn't be happy with ~10 shots a game like Mason.

    Yeah Adelman was great in the regular season against Pop but it's a different story in the playoffs. Pop doesn't usually show his hand against teams and then destroys them during money time (see 07 Cavs, 08 Hornets, 08 Suns).

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    You play who you play, and he didn't just perform well, he raped them.


    I understand that, as well as how he is a great talent and picked apart the cavs.


    But my point was he isn't on the talent level of manu or duncan.


    So why is that so wrong to say here?

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    TPark is happy with the job our front office is doing. Let's see, here's what we're now up against:

    Hornets get Posey
    Lakers get Bynum back
    Rockets add Artest
    Spurs get Roger Mason.

    One of these does not belong.

    (and I'm cautiously optimistic about Mason).

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    Someone needs to alert the Kings that summer league is in fact not actual NBA compe ion. And that Donte Green's averages ended up being pretty bad, anyways.

    It's interesting that this trade came out now when it can't be completed for more than two weeks. Wonder if another team will try to swoop in and offer more.

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    And to any Spurs fan who thinks that Ron Artest would be a detriment to the Spurs: You're being a blind homer.

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    Someone needs to alert the Kings that summer league is in fact not actual NBA compe ion. And that Donte Green's averages ended up being pretty bad, anyways.

    It's interesting that this trade came out now when it can't be completed for more than two weeks. Wonder if another team will try to swoop in and offer more.
    Agreed. They wanted Howard from the Mavs for Artest. Hard to believe they've gone from Howard to Bobby freakin' Jackson, a summer league wonder, and a future draft pick.

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    The big question is whether or not they have the leadership to put it all together once playoff time rolls around.
    Good points, but I think health has a lot to do with it as well.

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    Artest is an old fogey, 10 months older than Roger Mason. Spurs get younger, Rockets get older.

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    I understand that, as well as how he is a great talent and picked apart the cavs.


    But my point was he isn't on the talent level of manu or duncan.


    So why is that so wrong to say here?
    It's not "wrong" to say, it's inaccurate. He doesn't have the same role as either Duncan or Manu, so how exactly are you quantifying "talent level"?

    He doesn't have the quickness of manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the ability to penetrate like manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the low post moves like Tim?
    He doesn't have the free throw shooting ability of either?
    He doesn't have the 3-point shooting ability of manu? true

    He plays a different role than both, and as a pg he's one of the top 3-5 in the league, so i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove.

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    It's not "wrong" to say, it's inaccurate. He doesn't have the same role as either Duncan or Manu, so how exactly are you quantifying "talent level"?

    He doesn't have the quickness of manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the ability to penetrate like manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the low post moves like Tim?
    He doesn't have the free throw shooting ability of either?
    He doesn't have the 3-point shooting ability of manu? true

    He plays a different role than both, and as a pg he's one of the top 3-5 in the league, so i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove.
    I think he already proved it... that he's an idiot Rockets fan.

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    It's not "wrong" to say, it's inaccurate. He doesn't have the same role as either Duncan or Manu, so how exactly are you quantifying "talent level"?

    He doesn't have the quickness of manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the ability to penetrate like manu? wrong
    He doesn't have the low post moves like Tim?
    He doesn't have the free throw shooting ability of either?
    He doesn't have the 3-point shooting ability of manu? true

    He plays a different role than both, and as a pg he's one of the top 3-5 in the league, so i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove.


    alright

    im just going to leave it alone before i get accused of being a troll again.

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    alright

    im just going to leave it alone before i get accused of being a troll again.
    Too late. Troll.

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    For what it's worth I listen to Denver sports talk pretty much all day long, and I've not heard a peep about the AI for Battier/Alston/filler. They've pretty much stuck to talking about how allsome the Broncos are going to be this year.

    Also, a quick peek at the salaries shows me that without a 3rd team involved, the Rockets would need at least $6M more in filler to get close to AI's money, and they can't really hit that without trading Scola which I don't think they'd do.

    Having said all that....wow. This Artest thing sucks for the Spurs.

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    ANNNNNNNNNYTHING IS POSSSSSSSSSSSIBLE!!!

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    wow..

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    alright

    im just going to leave it alone before i get accused of being a troll again.
    I'm not accusing you of being a troll, I just expect some type of an explanation when someone makes a ridiculous statement of fact that has no basis.

    You obviously can't give that explanation.

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    PG-Alston
    SG-McGrady
    SF-Artest
    PF-Scola
    C-Yao


    thats very scary.......way too big of a lineup. Spurs better do something quick to convince spurs fans that we can still be contenders this year.

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    PG-Alston
    SG-McGrady
    SF-Artest
    PF-Scola
    C-Yao


    thats very scary.......way too big of a lineup. Spurs better do something quick to convince spurs fans that we can still be contenders this year.
    Whats even woarse is when they bring in barry, and move artest to the 4. They will have 4 great shooters on the wings and Yao in the lane. Anyone doubles on him and they will pay dearly.

    Pops needs to dig deep in that crappy white beard of his and find another player!!

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    im convinced if manu can stay 100% healthy thru out the season then i know we can still come out on top.

    its just a very slim chance that will happen.

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    alright

    im just going to leave it alone before i get accused of being a troll again.
    YOU'RE NOT a troll. you're a moron.

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    Why do Lakers' never get steals like this?

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    The 3rd best team in Texas makes a strong push to move past the 1st round.

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