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    Now it's our turn to get a lopsided deal. I demand one by training camp.
    there are usually only 2 per year. remember isiah thomas is gone from the knicks. no more easy rape deals

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    Man this is going to be a tough couple of years to continue being compe ive. The Spurs have made it even worse by giving players like Scola away and not getting Splitter on board.

    I don't see how anyone can argue that this makes Houston a very legitimate threat in the West.

    Damn-
    Posey goes to the Hornets
    Bynum is coming back
    and now this?

    I don't think the Spurs are going to ever win a b2b during the Duncan years, which is the only accomplishment that he is missing.

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    I predict a gloating Louis appearance in the next hour or so.

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    there are usually only 2 per year. remember isiah thomas is gone from the knicks. no more easy rape deals
    Well today is 1, it's our turn now.
    I'm currently using the trade machine to it's fullest.

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    The Mavs beat writers are all over it.

    http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...-to-texas.html

    Welcome to Texas, Ron Artest!!!
    Tim MacMahon

    No, Ron Artest is not reuniting with Rick Carlisle. He's reportedly headed to Houston.

    The Houston Chronicle reported that the Kings would receive Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick in 2009 and another player that the newspaper's source could not identify. KRIV television in Houston reported that the Kings will also receive cash.

    "Yes, it has been tentatively agreed upon," said Artest's agent, Mark Stevens, according to KRIV. "Now it has to be confirmed by the league office and until that is done, it's not official.

    This doesn't sound like good news to the Mavs. Unless the unidentified player is Rafer Alston or Shane Battier (guarantee it's not Tracy McGrady or Yao Ming), the Rockets just got a lot better.

    The Mavs believe that Dirk/Jason Kidd/Josh Howard can be the NBA's best trio. It's not even the best in Texas now with Artest joining Yao and T-Mac.

    (Spurs fans would say it wasn't anyway, with Tim Duncan/Manu Ginobili/Tony Parker together in San Antonio.)

    UPDATE: Superstar columnist/blogger Jean-Jacques Taylor took it a bit further, declaring that the Mavs are now the No. 4 team in the Southwest Division.

    http://jacquestaylorblog.dallasnews....-to-texas.html

    Ron Artest is coming to Texas
    Jean-Jacques Taylor

    But he ain't coming to the Mavs.

    He's going to Houston.

    The Mavs tried to get a deal done last week, but wouldn't part with Josh Howard. They did offer Brandon Bass and Jerry Stackhouse.

    I understand that, but it's hard to believe all the Rockets had to give up was Bobby Jackson and a couple of gift cards. The Mavs just became the fourth best team in their division behind New Orleans, San Antonio and Houston.

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    This question may have an obvious answer to some on here, and for that I may draw some sarcasm, but now who takes the final shot for the win: T-Mac or Ronnie?
    I wonder now where Big Shot Rob is going.

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    Well today is 1, it's our turn now.
    I'm currently using the trade machine to it's fullest.
    deng is going to resign with bulls so i dont see your guys options for a trade.

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    Im just still not that impressed with Houston. I still think we are the best in the West when healthy.

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    This is amazing, and a cheap pickup for Houston......

    Still though it is a risk....we have 4 guys at the SG/SF position in Tmac, Artest, Battier and Barry....

    There has to be another trade in the works.

    DD

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    In the regular season, the Spurs shouldn't even play Manu against the Rockets. He'd take a couple years off of his life trying to score on both Artest and Battier at the same time. Those should be some automatic vacation games for Manu.

    Damn the Rockets look like they've won their 12th paper championship. Luckily they only have two real championships to show for it. But WTF, how do they always end up with the fallen stars . . .
    Nice projected lineup, but the Rockets don't scare me - yet.

    First thing is this Rockets team hasn't proved it can stay healthy. Second, they've not proved they have the mental toughness needed to go deep in the playoffs. Artest helps them ascend to yet another level on the defensive end. However on the offensive side, he doesn't get shots within the flow of the offense. Doesn't make others better.

    With Yao playing in the Olympics, expect him to spend some time on the sideline next seasons. McGrady will have another one of his classic playoff meltdowns. Expect chemistry issues with this team. As long as the Rockets have Tracy McGrady as their lead dog, they'll never get out of the first round.

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    This really sux. We had our own expiring deals with Bonner and Udoka totalling about 6 mil, and could have given George Hill and a future first.

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    deng is going to resign with bulls so i dont see your guys options for a trade.
    Unless of course it's a sign and trade...

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    Neither Bynum or the core of the Rockets in guaranteed a healthy season. There is a strong possibility that might factor into the outcome of LA and HOU's respective seasons in some way or another.
    but c'mon man, that is the same garbage people said about boston last year. just sounds like wishful thinking to me, cuz we know our only chance to beat any of them is if they are injured. and what about us ? are we guaranteed to be healthy or something ?

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    This question may have an obvious answer to some on here, and for that I may draw some sarcasm, but now who takes the final shot for the win: T-Mac or Ronnie?
    You bring up a valid point. As tenacious a defender as Artest he, he is just as brutal at taking offensive opportunities away from teammates. At times, he's just as likely to get into his own personal mano-y-mano offensive battles with the opposition's top scorer - and will not back down.

    I remember reading a blurb last season that Artest constantly frustrated his teammates because he often "broke off" plays that were signaled in from the sideline. He did so that he could command the ball in the post, while looking for his own opportunities.

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    How much of an improvement is Artest over Battier defensively? Not much IMHO. Even offensively Battier is the better 3pt shooter.

    This is a good move since the Rockets gave up no major pieces to get Artest. If McGrady ever goes down then Artest can pickup the slack. Not sold on how they will all mesh together, Artest and McGrady both need the ball to be effective. This isn't a perfect fit like the Big 3 in BOS.

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    Im just still not that impressed with Houston. I still think we are the best in the West when healthy.
    yea, and you probably still think we lost in 5 games to the lakers because manu was "hurting".

    get real man....we're just not that good at this point.

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    but c'mon man, that is the same garbage people said about boston last year. just sounds like wishful thinking to me, cuz we know our only chance to beat any of them is if they are injured. and what about us ? are we guaranteed to be healthy or something ?
    Health is a risk for any and every team in every team spor, especially the more physically demanding the activity. However, when you have teams whose anchors have either negging injuries that keep them out for long stretches (as opposed to fluke injuries) or a serious injury that could set back a player's progress as it takes time to fully recover it plays an even larger role in their future and CANNOT be discounted. The proof will be in the pudding as always.

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    The guy aka as Phils could learn a policy thing or two from PJ during "money time". Rodman was traded a few times before ringing with Phil, MJ and the networks.

    Who is to say Artest would not be fine with 10 shots a game on the Spurs.
    Jordan, Pippen, Rodman > Me-Grady, Yao, Artest

    Big Chief Triangle > Adelman

    Adelman is a retread coach who'll find a way to lose rather than find a way to win with Artest especially in the playoffs.

    You're right I don't if Artest will be happy with ~10 shots a game. But he wasn't happy being a role player on the Bulls. He wasn't happy being second fiddle to O'Neal in Indy. And he wasn't happy with Bibby and Martin in Sac-town. What makes anyone think he'll be happy being the third banana to T-Wak and Yao.

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    You bring up a valid point. As tenacious a defender as Artest he, he is just as brutal at taking offensive opportunities away from teammates. At times, he's just as likely to get into his own personal mano-y-mano offensive battles with the opposition's top scorer - and will not back down.

    I remember reading a blurb last season that Artest constantly frustrated his teammates because he often "broke off" plays that were signaled in from the sideline. He did so that he could command the ball in the post, while looking for his own opportunities.


    My thinking exactly, which is one reason I brought the issue up.

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    ron artest is too unpredictable, one day hes about winning a championship, the next day hes team chemistry, the next day hes wanting to prove hes a superstar, and it just doesnt end.

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    Adds insult to injury.

    Rockets steal Scola for us for a European player that doesn't want to play in the NBA.

    They steal Batum, to trade him for Donte Greene to get Artest in this trade.

    They steal Barry because we waited too long for Maggette to decide.

    What's next? Robert Horry signs with thoe Rockets?

    So what do we keep in return for all this, guys like Bonner, Finley and Vaughn.

    Very depressing in my opinion.

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    ron artest is too unpredictable, one day hes about winning a championship, the next day hes team chemistry, the next day hes wanting to prove hes a superstar, and it just doesnt end.
    Hopefully his net benefit to the Rockets will be yet another postseason implosion.

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    Why so worried? We drafted George Hill and signed Roger Mason. If that doesn't fix everything, I don't know what will.

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    Unless of course it's a sign and trade...
    no espn says he is close to resigning for a 6 year deal

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    no espn says he is close to resigning for a 6 year deal
    The Spurs are known for keeping stuff under the radar.

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