The Official I Wasn't That Impressed With The Dark Knight Thread

[Spurminator]

If they ever make an Archie movie, watch out.

[peewee's lovechild]

The Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, and Iron Man are all a matter of opinion (I liked The Dark Knight better than all three).

Road to Perdition and Sin City, though (and I'd add From and Ghost World to this list), are films that I'd consider as good as The Dark Knight, but are based on graphic novels. I, personally, think that slight difference in source material puts them in a separate category. But, that's just me.

Exactly, there's a difference between comic books and graphic novels.

V for Vendetta is also based on a graphic novel, as was From .

However, I disagree with mardigan's opinion on Hulk, and Iron Man being better than TDK.

Like I've stated before, the element of "realism" is just too hard to ignore. Nolan has made the Batman character, and the villains as well, for that matter, very believable. One could make a plausible argument that such people could exist today. And, their motives are believable.

A man becoming a green monster that grows 10 times his size and still is able to wear his pants and crushes cars to use as shields as he's fighting an even bigger monster that has found a way to talk even though he, for some reason, can't . . . . kinda makes for a stretch in believability.

A man that creates an iron suit and flies beyond the speed of sound thrusted by rockets on his feet and has weaponry that can take out an entire army is not all that believable.

Now, I'm not saying I didn't like the films. , I damn well loved them. But, they don't make for believable films such as the two most recent Batman films.

Add that to the incredible acting that takes place in TDK, and it makes for an absolutely great film that deserves all the accolades that it has been getting.

[mFFL03]

here are my main problems with the movie that I don't think I've posted here:


the dialogue is some parts was extremely bad.

i.e.

robbers in the beginning the bank manager's lines such as: "schools out, time to go...good lord thats alot of money"

guy in the swat truck "ok I didn't sign up for this...." "ok thats not good" "ok that's really not good!"

what the ? someone blow these guys away with a magnum please

the acting

the first meeting between dent and gordon. it seemed like they were just reading cards.

the parallels to the original batman

i.e.

joker mob meeting and killing another mobster
batman and joker's final meeting in a high place (bell tower skyscraper vs. construction skyscraper)

dent

was he out cold in the end? or just dead? who knows....but at least try some F'ing CPR!!!! especially for a good-doer and the commissioner!

gotham police force

so. the joker has just told batman where two victims are, and instead of batman and gordon calling it in to the beat cops/patrol men (in ,assumably, one of the biggest cities in the world) they decide to do it themselves? oh ok


oh yah other than that, it's was epic

[peewee's lovechild]

here are my main problems with the movie that I don't think I've posted here:


the dialogue is some parts was extremely bad.

i.e.

robbers in the beginning the bank manager's lines such as: "schools out, time to go...good lord thats alot of money"

What were they supposed to say?

"Sheeeeeyit, maw er . . . that there some money, !!"

Is that what you're looking for?

guy in the swat truck "ok I didn't sign up for this...." "ok thats not good" "ok that's really not good!"

what the ? someone blow these guys away with a magnum please

Once again, what the were they supposed to say?

Were you expecting them to be all philosophical?

the acting

the first meeting between dent and gordon. it seemed like they were just reading cards.

No, they met like two men who really don't trust each other and it damn well played out that way.

Dent wasn't ready to trust Gordon because of his connection with Batman and shady cops working in his department, and Gordon wasn't ready to trust Dent because his good guy fascade seemed too good to be true.

Did you want these guys to talk about their feelings and what not?

the parallels to the original batman

i.e.

joker mob meeting and killing another mobster
batman and joker's final meeting in a high place (bell tower skyscraper vs. construction skyscraper)

Parallels to anything Batman were going to happen.

It is, afterall, a Batman movie.

Besides, if you know anything about Batman, or have read anything Batman, you'll know that he often has some pretty badass fights on high ends of buildings.

Read some Batman comics and educate yourself. Of course, you'll probably just accuse them of ripping of the first Batman movie, but I digress.

dent

was he out cold in the end? or just dead? who knows....but at least try some F'ing CPR!!!! especially for a good-doer and the commissioner!

He's dead.
Do you really need everything explained to you?

Even if he's not really dead, isn't the element of not knowing a good thing?

Besides, how do you effectivley give a guy CPR who's missing half his face?

gotham police force

so. the joker has just told batman where two victims are, and instead of batman and gordon calling it in to the beat cops/patrol men (in ,assumably, one of the biggest cities in the world) they decide to do it themselves? oh ok

Gordon did call in all the forces he could. That's why he showed up to try and save Rachel. With all the chaos going on, do you really think it would have been rational to move those forces to either location knowing that you had only minutes to get there and that they wouldn't be making it anyway?

You're really asking for too much and being extremely nitpicky.

oh yah other than that, it's was epic

It was.

If only you could stop worrying about being a non-comformist, you might actually admit to how great this movie is.

[mFFL03]

What were they supposed to say?

"Sheeeeeyit, maw er . . . that there some money, !!"

Is that what you're looking for?




Once again, what the were they supposed to say?

Were you expecting them to be all philosophical?





No, they met like two men who really don't trust each other and it damn well played out that way.

Dent wasn't ready to trust Gordon because of his connection with Batman and shady cops working in his department, and Gordon wasn't ready to trust Dent because his good guy fascade seemed too good to be true.

Did you want these guys to talk about their feelings and what not?





Parallels to anything Batman were going to happen.

It is, afterall, a Batman movie.

Besides, if you know anything about Batman, or have read anything Batman, you'll know that he often has some pretty badass fights on high ends of buildings.

Read some Batman comics and educate yourself. Of course, you'll probably just accuse them of ripping of the first Batman movie, but I digress.



He's dead.
Do you really need everything explained to you?

Even if he's not really dead, isn't the element of not knowing a good thing?

Besides, how do you effectivley give a guy CPR who's missing half his face?






Gordon did call in all the forces he could. That's why he showed up to try and save Rachel. With all the chaos going on, do you really think it would have been rational to move those forces to either location knowing that you had only minutes to get there and that they wouldn't be making it anyway?

You're really asking for too much and being extremely nitpicky.




It was.

If only you could stop worrying about being a non-comformist, you might actually admit to how great this movie is.

you're being an idiot. even I'm a fanboy and can see these problems. I LOVE the movie, I'm just pointing out some of the flaws.

those are the only bad dialogue parts "ok now that's really not good"...come on, it's like a 3rd grader wrote that character.

delivery between gordon and dent could have been better. ALOT better, watch it again.

Educate myself? On comics? I got a day job buddy and outdoor activities for hobbies. You can't deny those two similarities are too strong between the movies. Out of the THOUSANDS of batman comics, the scenes they decided on were the one's with strong resemblance to the burton film. but i digress...

I've seen people give cpr to ing dogs. they don't have faces, they have snouts for starters....

so gordon calls all his forces in only to arrive there first? yup that sounds like the worlds biggest response rate.


anything else YOU want to nitpick and defend....prick

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not going to read this thread. I just don't understand what makes people want to voice their opinions so much and make sure other people agree with them. , if you liked the movie, GREAT. If you didn't, GREAT.

Whether or not Pee Wee has an orgasm while watching this movie or whether or not CBF and SA can't get it up for weeks after seeing it doesn't make me like it any more or less.

Somone should stop Pee Wee from talking about it for at least a few days though.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Somone should stop Pee Wee from talking about it for at least a few days though.

Agreed. It is nothing short of pathetic.

[SequSpur]

s.

[Kermit]

But, with the exception of Batman Begins, all those other movies aren't grounded in realism the way TDK is.

[florige]

I mentioned general public in my post, as well. Am I the only one with a good enough memory to recall the threads/posts that were here six months ago? Daniel Day Lewis was the second coming of Jesus Christ.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

mannyisright

[2centsworth]

the movie was decent, but add me to the list of not overly impressed.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Two coworkers said this movie sucked, it went on for too long, the fighting scenes were blase, not enough batman kicking ass, and they should have just made it a movie only about the joker because the joker was so bad ass and stole the show.

[2centsworth]

Two coworkers said this movie sucked, it went on for too long, the fighting scenes were blase, not enough batman kicking ass, and they should have just made it a movie only about the joker because the joker was so bad ass and stole the show.

batman begins was much better IMO.