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that would be nice..
Bonner + Oberto for Nocioni.
that would be nice..
i don't think javtokas can play in the NBABonner + Oberto for Nocioni.
i have seen him play in Panathinaikos, not worth it.
Why not Bonner+Oberto for Jordan's DNA so that we can just clone him instead? I mean since we're pulling bull out of the air..
And whats really stupid is that thinking the Spurs would only do that if they could get Jav to sign. WTF?
Javtokas is not better than Oberto.
why would th e bulls do that? What makes anyone think javtokas wants to come to the spurs?
I think the Bulls would do that for many reasons (take Javtokas out of the equation):
The Bulls are a young team desperate for veteran leadership. Not only do they have a new coach that would need help in the locker room, they have a need for a seasoned center. So it not only fills a positional need, it fills a leadership need.
Secondly, they are loaded at the 2/3 position. They have a need at the 4/5 position and guys who can shoot the 3 (Bonner) and set good screens along with pass and rebound (Oberto) would be a nice pick up especially at a combined 6M. Guys with their size and skill set usually cost much more. Just my opinion.
This is why I suggested a while ago a trade with Oberto/Bonner or sign and trade with KT/Bonner to the Bulls for Thabo and Tyrus. Same needs met, just trading experience/locker room for upside and positional needs.
But now that we signed a SG (Mason) that makes my trade for Thabo unlikely.
If the Spurs could get Thabo they would. They'd be fools to pass on him because of Mason.
With Bowen on his way out Thabo would be a great understudy, and give the Spurs some much needed versatility on both ends of the floor.
Why? Mason is a solid player both offensively and defensively that can help now. I would rather have Mason than Thabo, but if the trade I proposed would have been a possibility I would have done it because the total package would have been better.
No one on here is ever close when it comes to signings or trades, but I think the logic is good from most people. That is the point I was trying to make is that the reason the Bulls might do the trade initially proposed by the thread is because of the points I made.
My point wasn't an either/or with Thabo and Mason. They could co-exist if the unlikely scenario ever presented itself.
Thabo is 6'7" and the only thing I know Mason does better is shoot the three. I'm not knocking Mason but Bowen needs a successor and 6'5" and under guys aren't going to get it done IMO. Thabo's defense is already there and he's already a similar player to D. Christie. It's not like you'd have to wait on him to contribute.
I dont think Spurs can sign him, he still got contracts.... Anyway iit is a miracle that Spurs buy him out and with what money. Spurs cannot afford to bought Scola and Splitter contracts previously..what broke my heart was Rockets bought it just like that..just like that.
I didn't know that offer was on the table. We should inject the DNA in Manu and see what happens.
Jordan's DNA >>> Nocioni
The only way to get Thabo would be through a trade. I think with the pieces we drafted and signed via F.A. that is all but out the window. It was just a trade idea a long time ago before any F.A. signings or draft picks. Thabo would be nice and they could co-exist, but that is out the window.
I think that Nocioni could be available because bulls have Deng and Nocioni contract is quite big. He isn't a that unrealistic option.
Nocioni contract goes over 2010 but he is decreasing and won't hurt a lot the 2010 plan. While I'm so-so about Nocioni after his last season, I think Spurs should try to get him.
Spurs offer could be around Bonner + Expirings (Vaughn + Udoka + Johnson S&T). I thin it could be enough to get him but if Bulls wants more, Spurs could add something like a 2011 first round pick.
Yes, the Bulls would gladly get assraped for the Spurs' benefit.
yeah! i definitely want Nocioni on our team, we necessary for help at SF with all the teams strong at this position and we only have the 38yo Bowen.
after they sign Deng it will not be clever to pay 8 million per year for 4 years to another SF, they will shop him for a shorter contracts
we can offer the bulls Oberto, bonner and Udoka
I totally agree, youth, athleticism and D. Nocioni, I just don't like the guy, besides he gets paid too much anyway.
keep tp and td, then trade everyone on the spurs roster for everyone on the lakers roster.......and boom we are back in the WCF
Noce would be the perfect answer if the Rockets get Artest
Them Argies are scrubs.
Bruno, Noce kinda stunk last season. I'm not sure he's worth his contract.
The FO does not operate this way when making moves. They seem to either avoid moves altogether or pursue actions without taking risk, or so it seems. I wonder if that is the reason that only teams with former Spurs or the moron Isiah would deal with them. The other moments we make deals is when we give away our assets at the lowest possible value, at which point we'll deal with anyone.
I wonder if we make moves to fit around the Big 3, or if they're moves to fit with personality of the FO.
nocioni is a stud. please, why would they trade for 2 in scubs
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