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    Im just saying.

    I do not think the Spurs have done nearly enough this off season.

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    Probably right, but it all depends on the health of the big players and the production of Mason. If Mason blows up and the big guns are healthy and productive then the team can beat anyone in the playoffs.

    Secondary will be Ian's production and if a rook or two can contribute anything of worth.

    Also, not having Joey C swallow his whistle on obvious fouls in game deciding situations in the playoffs would help as well.

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    Im just saying.

    I do not think the Spurs have done nearly enough this off season.
    I hope you weren't one of the people ing that this team needed to get younger 3 months ago.

    They basically do what the majority of the board has been asking them to, and people are still pissed off - maybe even more than they were.

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    Isn't this the same said last season? Everyone else got better. Yet the Spurs ended up in the WCF with an old ass team. Funny huh?

    What's even more funny is how people neglect the fact that the Spurs have TIM DUNCAN, TONY PARKER and MANU GINOBILI on the team.

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    If this is a prediction thread, eh?!?! Maybe, it's too early to tell.

    Let's look at some of the West.

    The Lakers don't really have to do anything because Bynum should be back. Notice I said should. He was suppose to come back during the regular season before the playoffs but you have to wonder will he be the same? Props to the Lakers if they were just being cautious and protecting an asset. It looked like they were ok with out him and other than melting in the Finals, they did just fine. A healthy Bynum improves them.

    Houston getting Artest could be huge. That would give them a big three. People who knock the Spurs for not signing a "big name" should consider this. Our big three is established, experienced and has shown the ability to produce in the playoffs. That is why none of our big three should be traded as in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Houston on the other hand have two amazingly talented players in TMac and Yao. If the Artest thing does not work out and they exit in the first round again, they have to trade one of their major pieces as it would be clear that they were not getting to the next level with those guys.

    Phoenix will be getting used to Terry Porter. It will be interesting to see how Nash responds. He is another year older and was highly effective in D'Antoni's system. Do you really expect them to be better? I don't.

    New Orleans brought in James Posey. Solid move if you ask me. They still have to re-sign Pargo or else come up with a back up point to Chris Paul. That is easier said then done as we Spur's fans know all to well. Other then a one year stint with Speedy Claxton, the Spurs have been trying since Tony Parker arrived to find a solid back up for him despite that guy only needing to play 10 or 15 minutes a night. I think New Orleans is tougher this coming season because their core has another year of experience together and went through a tough playoff series with the Spurs and Byron Scott is a good coach.

    Utah will be there and be tough. They have a big two in Williams and Boozer. If Kirelenko or Okur can evolve to be the on the same level, they will get to the next level. If they don't, they will be tougher only due to experience of being together over time and Sloan is a good coach as well.

    Denver made some moves they had to but probably will fall out of the playoffs due the loss of Camby and Najera. They got some nice young guns in return but they took a step back to be better further down the road.

    Golden State is a wild card. I think they will miss B. Davis more than people realize but Nelson with his gimmicks and crazy schemes seems to keep his team right on the bubble of making the playoffs so who knows? Look for some interesting games with the Clippers particularly if those two are competing for the final playoff spot.

    Portland has the type of team most fans want. Young guys they obtained through the draft and trades that are talented, now lets let them gel and mature into an unstoppable force. Problem is, when you put all your eggs is one basket (youth) if they turn out good, they all want to be paid and you stand a good chance of losing some of the pieces when their contracts come up and that is just about the time they are ready to move to the next level. MacMillian will get this team into the playoffs barring a major injury but they will be out in the first round.

    Dallas may be in for a long season. Diop is back but Kidd is another year older. If they don't figure it out this season somehow, it is time to bust up the team and start over.

    San Antonio has some question marks going into the season. With the big three we have, it is a matter of finding the right role players to surround them with and the jury is out and will be until next spring. The front office recognized the need to get younger and that should result in a lower overall standing while the new guys get used to the system and their teammates. It really is how well Mason and the rooks integrate into the system. If it takes too long, we could even struggle to make the playoffs but I don't see a team with a healthy Tim Duncan not making the playoffs.

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    is the sky falling again?

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    is the sky falling again?
    Are the PollyAnnas singing again?

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    How do you stay the same when you add a young big a young point and a young swingman. How is that possible?

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    How do you stay the same when you add a young big a young point and a young swingman. How is that possible?
    It isn't. But being ing stupid is a constant.

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    How do you stay the same when you add a young big a young point and a young swingman. How is that possible?
    Impact players.
    Maybe Hill will play some at point.
    Maybe Manhimi will impact at F.
    Maybe the Wiz guy will help add a Championship.
    All maybes.

    Artest will impact big time. And for the "sky is falling Artest will destroy the Rockets" chanters, get real. He already played excellently for Adleman in the one and only playoffs he coached him. It's a contract year, RonRon is looking for megabucks. Great signing by Houston. No maybes.

    lebomb
    Im just saying.
    I do not think the Spurs have done nearly enough this off season.

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    I can't wait until the season starts to end all the speculation. The off season isn't even over yet and we are a lottery team already? F that! Moves are still being made everywhere. For all we know T-Mac goes to Detroit and everything gets busted up (just an example I don't really think that will happen) The bandwagoners are already admitting defeat before the season has begun. We aren't even close to PRE-season yet

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    I'm just wondering if we're due for one of these threads every week until the season starts or if those who hold this perception could be bothered to find last week's thread and add their thoughts to that. [/rant]

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    as long as the spurs have a well rested tim, tony, and manu

    the spurs are unstopable! pop will let hill, mason, giest, ian do there thing dont worry about that, the spurs scouts have been doing an awsome job stealing hill

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    I do not think the Spurs have not done enough, but some teams are just doing a lot. The Spurs have no control over what other teams do. They just try and build the best team they can within their business model.

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    I hope you weren't one of the people ing that this team needed to get younger 3 months ago.

    They basically do what the majority of the board has been asking them to, and people are still pissed off - maybe even more than they were.
    Yeah, can't keep idiots happy.

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    pop is very happy with the way IAN is progressing, I expect IAN to have 20-25 min a game this coming season, IAN will create matchup problems, just like posey does.

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    it's fun to get caught up in the big signings like artest when your team is not a contender and you have money to throw around. it's exciting! houston has a whole new look to their roster... (not sure if they're automatically contenders)

    but when you're already at the top, the off-seasons aren't as thrilling. LA didn't make any big moves. Boston didn't either. Neither did the hornets or the jazz... subtle changes here and there, but still...

    let the philly's, clips, and rockets make their moves now. the spurs will let things play out, and make their patented key move before the trade deadline in the spring.

    imo

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    Just kicking ass and winning Championships!!! VaSpursFan's Avatar
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    Are the PollyAnnas singing again?


    why do certain fans lose the ability to logically think in the offseason? we haven't done enough. we should trade for <insert player name here>. we should bring over <insert draftee name here>. how many moves have other contenders made? so far all the movement have been amongst teams trying to get to the Spurs level.

    the Spurs have until this thing called the trading deadline to make changes if the current roster isn't up to par. none of the current players have gone through training camp or preseason yet and fans want us to make panic trades because other teams are making moves. it's mind boggling. we can't control it, so why not sit back and enjoy the ride instead of armchair gm'ing.

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    I'm just wondering if we're due for one of these threads every week until the season starts or if those who hold this perception could be bothered to find last week's thread and add their thoughts to that. [/rant]
    Does it really make a difference? Is it really that big of an inconvinience to see a new thread le on this forum? Perspective.

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    Impact players.
    Maybe Hill will play some at point.
    Maybe Manhimi will impact at F.
    Maybe the Wiz guy will help add a Championship.
    All maybes.

    Artest will impact big time. And for the "sky is falling Artest will destroy the Rockets" chanters, get real. He already played excellently for Adleman in the one and only playoffs he coached him. It's a contract year, RonRon is looking for megabucks. Great signing by Houston. No maybes.

    lebomb
    Maybe Artest will go a whole season without blowing up and ruining his team, like he did with a championship-caliber Indiana Pacers. Maybe giving more minutes to the volatile Artest and fewer to the ultimate glue guy Battier will actually hurt the team.

    Maybe Andrew Bynum, who at a very young age has already had 3 knee surgeries, with stay healthy for an extended period.

    Maybe Boston's Big 3, who are older than San Antonio's Big 3, will all stay healthy.

    Maybe we should give the Front Office of the most successful team in the NBA for the past decade the benefit of the doubt. If only two of the new five (Mason, Mahinmi, Hill, Gist, and Tolliver) play well, the Spurs could be much better than they were last year. If Finley re-signs, he will probably go from starter last year to 3rd string this year. It's very likely that Thomas, Mahinmi, Tolliver, and Gist combined will put up better numbers than Horry and Elson, which will mean the Spurs start this season off in a better position than last year.

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    Also, not having Joey C swallow his whistle on obvious fouls in game deciding situations in the playoffs would help as well.
    Oh man. Joey, Joey, Joey. Please be so kind to refuse officiating the Spurs game in the future. You are not wanted.

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    this Spurs system rarely fails people.

    Defense First
    Offense second.

    defense brings us to the finals. our offense was never our main strong point. im not worried just yet.

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    this Spurs system rarely fails people.

    Defense First
    Offense second.

    defense brings us to the finals. our offense was never our main strong point. im not worried just yet.
    1-4 vs Phil Jackson = mostly fails including last years pivitol game 1 choker of 89-85.
    89 pts allowed was not a defensive meltdown. Altho taking Bowen off of Kome was a defensive meltdown failure move.

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    One more time... xtremesteven33's Avatar
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    1-4 vs Phil Jackson = mostly fails including last years pivitol game 1 choker of 89-85.
    89 pts allowed was not a defensive meltdown. Altho taking Bowen off of Kome was a defensive meltdown failure move.


    3 les in the past 6 years looks like a great gameplan.

    dont buy into the Jackson>Popovich hype.

    id take Pop over Phil anyday. i still think the Spurs played very well with an injured Manu against the Lakers.

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    pop is very happy with the way IAN is progressing, I expect IAN to have 20-25 min a game this coming season, IAN will create matchup problems, just like posey does.


    I'm all for trying to stay upbeat about the season, but this statement just made me laugh out loud

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