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Reparations have already been paid. They were called "welfare", and it's probably in the hundreds of billions by now.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/07/28/news/story05.html
This guy gets scarier and scarier...
I'm sure CNN, CBS, et. al. will spin this though...I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.
"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."
Reparations have already been paid. They were called "welfare", and it's probably in the hundreds of billions by now.
I agree with you there completely, but judging by his comments to the audience at this event, he feels there is more work to be done.
Shouldn't a black man running for president be proof positive that it's time to end talks of reparation, affirmative action, etc.?
I see like this, the mortgage/housing bailout, the Fannie/Freddie , the coming bill for Medicare and Social Security, and I start to believe all the people talking about the fall of Rome, 21st century style...
-WIC
-Food Stamps
-Welfare
Not enough?
That is a troubling quote indeed.
The AP has already started to spin it....by discussing actual facts and not mere innuendo.
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Don't you perhaps think he means "deeds" as in action, and not "deeds" as in the deed to your house?
Nevermind, Peabody just cleared this issue up
I knew I could count on the liberal spin doctors to do a collective 'oh , how do we make this sound better.'
So which is it? This isn't about innuendo. Both are direct quotes from the mouths of Saint Obama. Which one does he really plan to implement if elected?
So improving education, access to health care, and improving the economy aren't "deeds" or actions the government can take to improve peoples lives? I really don't understand what you mean by "which one does he plan to implement?".
With Rove and his henchmen, who run McSenile's, the poisoning of the election with lies and propaganda, with incompetent, bad faith MSM played like instruments, will be total.
CNN and their new ice Campbell Brown are trying to out-do Fox as right wing slime and slmie volcano.
America The Beautiful, From Sea to Shining Sea.
Seems to me, you're the one deliberately looking for something to about the guy when its already been made clear what he meant.
My apologies. I thought taking an isolated comment from Obama and then basing an entire thread en led "Obama sounds like he's for reparations for slavery" on that comment was the epitome of innuendo. My mistake.
I am BLACK man who happens to be oppsed to reparations... I think the notion is silly, however I am offended by the notion that "welfare" is exclusively for African Americans... it is available to anybody who needs it and btw most of them are white
Obama was asked whether he supports an official government apology for slavery or the country's treatment of American Indians. He replied that he would discuss the idea with Indian leaders but that it is more important to provide services that will help people escape poverty and improve their lives. The same is true of an apology or reparations for slavery, he said.
"I'm much more interested in talking about, how do we get every child to learn? How do we get every person health care? How do we make sure that everybody has a job?" Obama said.
Obama said that he would discuss reparations for slavery with African American leaders (it's clearly implied in the portion of the article above, so if you didn't catch it the first time, read it again), that hardly passes for being against reparations.
Hopefully we're not supposed to believe that Obama's quotes that, " I'm much more interested in talking about childrens education, and health care" are meant to serve as an argument substantiating that he's against reparations? It would be foolish to conclude that he's against reparations because he's for childrens education and health care for all.
There's not one Obama "quote" in the article that would pass as an acceptable counterpoint against what's implied in the thread le.
I'm not saying that he's for or against it, I am stating that the article Peabody submitted falls far short of serving as a rebuttal for him supporting reparations.
He's straddling the fence, that's what politicians do, he doesn't want to say anything that would undermine his overwhelming support among African Americans.
I don't believe that he would support reparations legislation if he were President, it's way to polarizing, and that would run against the grain of him being a Uniter.
Good post.
I also saw your next post, and thought the same thing. He talks about unity and hope, but then hints at reparations. You really want to start a racial war in the U.S.? Tell everyone who's not black that they have to give money to said ethnicity to make up for something that happened a long time ago.
Unity my ass.
Really, I would think the part of the article stating-
-is a fairly effective counterpoint to the notion that he's in favor of reparations for slavery.
It's a quote taken entirely out of context.
The entire reason that I called AHF out on this issue is because I watched the conference that this quote was taken from on CNN two days ago. It was a conference of minority journalists. An American-Indian journalist asked about an official apology and reparations from the goverment. Obama explained to the journalist that the way to overcome the effects of mistreatment of minorities was through better education, health care and job opportunities. Those are the "deeds" to which he referred.
However, if you choose to take this quote out of context and somehow use that as support for a point you're trying to make, have at it.
I like the Hannity-like extrapolation from an out-of-context quote.....
Really, where are the quotation marks below?
No quotation marks, no quote. It's an article, and only part of the article; read on (once again)Obama also said he has little interest in an official government apology for slavery or reparations for descendants of slaves. The government's focus, he said, should be on providing jobs, education and health for people still struggling today.
This clearly implies that he's open to the discussion of reparations. You'd have to be blind to say that it does not.; Obama was asked whether he supports an official government apology for slavery or the country's treatment of American Indians. He replied that he would discuss the idea with Indian leaders but that it is more important to provide services that will help people escape poverty and improve their lives. The same is true of... reparations for slavery, he said.
I can't help you with comprehension, you're own your own.
I can understand how someone would construe it as being "out of context" if their capacity for comprehending was severly limited.I like the Hannity-like extrapolation from an out-of-context quote.....
12:30 here, rising at 5:30 = signing off.
Again, my comprehension of his comment comes from having actually seen the conference. You can continue to take what you want from a quote contained in a part of an article about the conference. If you are that insistent on the notion that he supports reparations, run with it.
Another article about the conference -
" George Bush doesn't care about Black people "
Maybe Obama refers to recent history
Assuming the worst about someone you don't like, and then attributing things to that person that they never actually said is a popular activity around these parts.
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