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    2.04 m = 6-8 He is not 6-7 even NBA list him 6-8.

    Also NBA weight is wrong. He is list 237 pounds in college. You think he weigh less at age 31 than he weigh at age 22? I think you are wrong. I know you are wrong. He is say to be 6-8 260 pound in these days. This is not small forward.

    I never say he is "center in NBA" I say he can back up PF and C similar as player like Scola and Kurt Thomas. They is about same size as Batiste 1 inch taller, shorter arms probably and weigh less and less muscle. Batiste is not "fatter" he is all muscle.
    You do realize that none of that information bolsters your claim.

    6' 8" is too small to play PF or C

    260 is WAY too heavy to play SF
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    2.04 m = 6-8 He is not 6-7 even NBA list him 6-8.

    Also NBA weight is wrong. He is list 237 pounds in college. You think he weigh less at age 31 than he weigh at age 22? I think you are wrong. I know you are wrong. He is say to be 6-8 260 pound in these days. This is not small forward.

    I never say he is "center in NBA" I say he can back up PF and C similar as player like Scola and Kurt Thomas. They is about same size as Batiste 1 inch taller, shorter arms probably and weigh less and less muscle. Batiste is not "fatter" he is all muscle.

    Okay, whatever. You realize that the NBA listing him at 6'8 is even more evidence that he's 6'7, right?

    So, when are you going to stop pretending you are a Greek guy and friends with Spanoulis?
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    He's a fricking scrub if he played in the nba.
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    Are you really just some asshole Mavs fan who is pretending to be from Europe by faking incredibly bad grammar? You can't honestly follow the EuroLeagues and still be that ing ignorant, can you? For a team from one of the worst leagues, Maccabi has certainly had their way with some of the best teams in Europe. Or you not realize this?

    I don't give a damn about the Israeli League. Maccabi won the EuroLeague Championship in 2004 and 2005. The following year, when I was there, they were beaten in the Finals by CSKA Moscow. In addition to those two championships, Maccabi has been the runners-up twice in the last 5 years, finishing ahead of teams like CSKA, Tau Ceramica, Real Madrid, and Panathinaikos. Are you suggesting that those teams are not among Europe's best?

    For the record, I'm not at all sure that the Maccabi team I watched could have beaten Memphis this season. No... not the Grizzlies. The Memphis Tigers' NCAA team.

    And for those who will try to insist that the EuroLeague is really compe ive with the NBA, consider this:
    1. In 2004 and 2005, the All-EuroLeague MVP was Anthony Parker.
    2. This year's EuroLeague Finals MVP was Trajan Langdon.
    3. Three of last year's All-EuroLeague First Team were from the U.S. - including Langdon, Terrell McIntyre, and Terence Morris.

    None of those guys could be more than role players in the NBA, and yet they were among the very best in the Euros. And that's not my opinion. They all have the awards to prove it.

    [For those Spurs fans who aren't really familiar with how the EuroLeague works, see this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroleague ]


    You actual think Israel league is good one in Europe.
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    Why is it Euro fans ignore the facts of the situations, as in the Spurs only having two million in cap room left.
    Why is it you lack ability to read?
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    You do realize that none of that information bolsters your claim.

    6' 8" is too small to play PF or C

    260 is WAY too heavy to play SF
    Spurs fans is dumb. This thread is about Fotsis. I am not suggest Batiste for Spurs. Spurs does not need him. I am suggest Fotsis who Spurs can really use.
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    Okay, whatever. You realize that the NBA listing him at 6'8 is even more evidence that he's 6'7, right?

    So, when are you going to stop pretending you are a Greek guy and friends with Spanoulis?
    So owner of site believe Dakota? Why you not tell fans here any person can get software and download this and will tell them who is who?
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    You actual think Israel league is good one in Europe.
    He's not talking about the Israeli league. He's talking about Maccabi's playing in Euroleague. Just because they happen to be in the Israeli league, that's not the point of his post.
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    So owner of site believe Dakota? Why you not tell fans here any person can get software and download this and will tell them who is who?
    No, I believe the fact that you use a proxy server to post to hide where you are posting from. That's what any software will tell anyone.
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    kill bill pana is the
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    No, I believe the fact that you use a proxy server to post to hide where you are posting from. That's what any software will tell anyone.
    So, I'm not the only one that thinks it's odd that his English has gone from supposed foreigner to cave man as if he's trying too hard to sell himself as a Greek? Call me crazy, but the more you read and respond in a foreign language the better you grasp it.
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    He is also have Euroleague record for most rebound in one game with 24. And remember is only 40 minute games in Euroleague and is much harder to get rebounds because of game difference. Even the John Hollinger of the ESPN says this is true. 1 rebound in NBA is = 1.18 rebound in Euroleague and this is per 40 minute so not include difference of 40 minute to 48 minute. So 24 rebound game is like = 24 x 1.18 = 28.32 rebound then for difference in 40 minute game to 48 minute game is = 34 rebounds.

    So this is like = 34 rebound game in NBA. Good example what he is capable of.
    You took Hollinger's ridiculous conversion and then adjusted it up to 48 minutes? Okay. On Feb. 25, Matt Bonner played for 2 minutes (actually 1:50) and had 4 points and 2 assists. When I adjust that to 48 minutes, it is the equivalent of a 96 point, 48 assist game.

    If you are going to use one game to try and show "what he is capable of" in the NBA, you should at least mention that the game was against Benneton Treviso ffs. And that the game was tied 58-58 at the end of regulation, because both teams shot like , and Fostis played 42:15 including overtime. (That kinda s up your adjustments, huh?) Benneton was a bad team, having a bad night, during a bad season. And from that you conclude that he is "capable" of a 34 rebound game in the NBA?

    Even without your dumbass conversion, 24 rebounds in the Euroleague does not equal 24 rebounds in the NBA. Put Fostis on the floor with players like Duncan, Dwight Howard, or Yao Ming and see how many 24 rebound games he has. , Shaq and Duncan are fairly good players, and the most boards they have had in a game are 29 and 25, respectively.

    And for the record, Hollinger uses his conversion factor because he says that "there are a lot more missed shots to grab" in the NBA. It's bad enough when applied to season averages. But it's absolutely ignorant to try and apply it to a single game, where both teams throw up a bunch of bricks, which creates a bunch of rebounds. Math is the universal language, so you can't blame this on your command of English. And if you really believe that Fostis did is equal to a 34-point game in the NBA, you don't know about basketball either.
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    You actual think Israel league is good one in Europe.
    You're a fake. You're sitting in Dallas, hiding behind an anonymous proxy and pretending to sound like a Euro fan. But no Euro fan would even suggest that Maccabi is not a good EuroLeague team, since they won the Euro Cup twice and finished second twice in the last five years.

    In every country I have ever been to, there is a tendency for people to believe you are stupid if you speak with an accent. It's a common flaw for people everywhere, and we are no exception. You come here with that ridiculous chopped-up English, and it's easier for people to believe you are really as stupid as you appear to be.

    This is where you write back and assure everyone that you really are from Europe (and therefore just as stupid as you appear to be). Doesn't matter.
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    I check in google website and is software will tell any user where user is from and who is who and if they is same person or not. This is able to be download. Telling such as this to members of board would have prevent crap that Dakota started. Indazone and me would have never have to deal with re ed crap that we are "same person".

    Proxy server is security issue. If any person is use internet with computer with no good security system then they will get virus. I know I lose computer to this before and it cost much money when this happen and also problems in work and time. This is just obvious thing. Is very strange how persons using computer with good security can be attack and criticize for this. Is there reason person should have unlisted phone number or is this also "strange and su ious actions"?
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    I never use a proxy server
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    He's not talking about the Israeli league. He's talking about Maccabi's playing in Euroleague. Just because they happen to be in the Israeli league, that's not the point of his post.
    I am confuse by this then. Read what he say not make sense if this what he means.
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    So, I'm not the only one that thinks it's odd that his English has gone from supposed foreigner to cave man as if he's trying too hard to sell himself as a Greek? Call me crazy, but the more you read and respond in a foreign language the better you grasp it.
    My English is good. There is not many errors in my English now.
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    You took Hollinger's ridiculous conversion and then adjusted it up to 48 minutes? Okay. On Feb. 25, Matt Bonner played for 2 minutes (actually 1:50) and had 4 points and 2 assists. When I adjust that to 48 minutes, it is the equivalent of a 96 point, 48 assist game.

    If you are going to use one game to try and show "what he is capable of" in the NBA, you should at least mention that the game was against Benneton Treviso ffs. And that the game was tied 58-58 at the end of regulation, because both teams shot like , and Fostis played 42:15 including overtime. (That kinda s up your adjustments, huh?) Benneton was a bad team, having a bad night, during a bad season. And from that you conclude that he is "capable" of a 34 rebound game in the NBA?

    Even without your dumbass conversion, 24 rebounds in the Euroleague does not equal 24 rebounds in the NBA. Put Fostis on the floor with players like Duncan, Dwight Howard, or Yao Ming and see how many 24 rebound games he has. , Shaq and Duncan are fairly good players, and the most boards they have had in a game are 29 and 25, respectively.

    And for the record, Hollinger uses his conversion factor because he says that "there are a lot more missed shots to grab" in the NBA. It's bad enough when applied to season averages. But it's absolutely ignorant to try and apply it to a single game, where both teams throw up a bunch of bricks, which creates a bunch of rebounds. Math is the universal language, so you can't blame this on your command of English. And if you really believe that Fostis did is equal to a 34-point game in the NBA, you don't know about basketball either.
    You not understand what I say. Pace of game is much different. You notice score of game you just post or not? Also is much less rebound available in game. Take TEAM STAT and compare. As percentage of TEAM rebounds 24 in Euroleague is much more difficult then 24 in NBA game.

    If you do not understand this then you have never look at Euroleague box score.
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    , leave kill biil, just leave. And take all the other re s with you.
    i don't like cursing, but i am glad someone said that. I hope you guys don't think all Greeks are like him, there are bad apples everywhere.
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    You're a fake. You're sitting in Dallas, hiding behind an anonymous proxy and pretending to sound like a Euro fan. But no Euro fan would even suggest that Maccabi is not a good EuroLeague team, since they won the Euro Cup twice and finished second twice in the last five years.

    In every country I have ever been to, there is a tendency for people to believe you are stupid if you speak with an accent. It's a common flaw for people everywhere, and we are no exception. You come here with that ridiculous chopped-up English, and it's easier for people to believe you are really as stupid as you appear to be.

    This is where you write back and assure everyone that you really are from Europe (and therefore just as stupid as you appear to be). Doesn't matter.
    You is crazy. I never say Maccabi is not good Euroleague team. I say Isreal league Ligat sucks. If you cannot judge difference between Euroleague, Ligat and Maccabi then you is only fake here with made up bull shiets story.
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    I never use a proxy server
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    How much do Mac computers cost? I know they is much more.
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    i don't like cursing, but i am glad someone said that. I hope you guys don't think all Greeks are like him, there are bad apples everywhere.
    I am not malaka.
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    not you are not. drink your milk now. time to go to school.
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    Proxy server is security issue. If any person is use internet with computer with no good security system then they will get virus. I know I lose computer to this before and it cost much money when this happen and also problems in work and time. This is just obvious thing. Is very strange how persons using computer with good security can be attack and criticize for this. Is there reason person should have unlisted phone number or is this also "strange and su ious actions"?
    Whatever you want to say. Earlier this week, you claimed you didn't even know what an IP was. Now you are explaining why you use a proxy. Why do you switch proxy services all the time? You switch from Anonymouse to others and back again? Just stick with Anonymouse if it's a security issue.

    And just so you know. You did f'up once and posted from your actual Comcast IP
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    Whatever you want to say. Earlier this week, you claimed you didn't even know what an IP was. Now you are explaining why you use a proxy. Why do you switch proxy services all the time? You switch from Anonymouse to others and back again? Just stick with Anonymouse if it's a security issue.

    And just so you know. You did f'up once and posted from your actual Comcast IP


    Thanks Kori.




    Kill Bill Pana is such a troll.
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