The Audacity of Socialism.

[2centsworth]

Barack Obama has styled himself a centrist, but does his record support that claim?

In this series, we examine Senator Obama's past, his voting record and the people who've served as his advisers and mentors over the years. We'll show how the facts of Obama's actions and associations reveal a far more left-leaning tilt to his background — and to his politics.


Obama's Global Tax
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...02222641317480
Election '08: A plan by Barack Obama to redistribute American wealth on a global level is moving forward in the Senate. It follows Marxist theology — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...02137342405551
Election '08: Before friendly audiences, Barack Obama speaks passionately about something called "economic justice." He uses the term obliquely, though, speaking in code — socialist code.

[Mr. Peabody]

Barack Obama has styled himself a centrist, but does his record support that claim?

In this series, we examine Senator Obama's past, his voting record and the people who've served as his advisers and mentors over the years. We'll show how the facts of Obama's actions and associations reveal a far more left-leaning tilt to his background — and to his politics.


Obama's Global Tax
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...02222641317480
Election '08: A plan by Barack Obama to redistribute American wealth on a global level is moving forward in the Senate. It follows Marxist theology — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...02137342405551
Election '08: Before friendly audiences, Barack Obama speaks passionately about something called "economic justice." He uses the term obliquely, though, speaking in code — socialist code.

That's funny. On The Daily Kos, the posters there always complain that Obama's record doesn't show enough of a commitment to a liberal agenda. I guess it all depends on the perspective you use.

[clambake]

thanks 2cents! that frank marshall davis is an amazing guy! i think you might be opening up, just a bit!

[2centsworth]

That's funny. On The Daily Kos, the posters there always complain that Obama's record doesn't show enough of a commitment to a liberal agenda. I guess it all depends on the perspective you use.

The left believes he's a socialist, but not a commie. The right believes he's a commie. I guess that makes him a socialist. Hence, the le of the editorial.

[2centsworth]

thanks 2cents! that frank marshall davis is an amazing guy! i think you might be opening up, just a bit!

I respect people who can admit who their heros are, so I have an increased respect for you. Obama on the other hand is cowardly and will throw his pastor and grandmother under the bus to get elected.

[clambake]

I respect people who can admit who their heros are, so I have an increased respect for you. Obama on the other hand is cowardly and will throw his pastor and grandmother under the bus to get elected.

@ hero! why don't you donate to the pastor if it really bothers you, and try to explain racism to his grandmother. i think you might be the perfect choice for her race education.

[2centsworth]

@ hero! why don't you donate to the pastor if it really bothers you, and try to explain racism to his grandmother. i think you might be the perfect choice for her race education.

i didn't expect you to be able to read.

[clambake]

I respect people who can admit who their heros are, so I have an increased respect for you. Obama on the other hand is cowardly and will throw his pastor and grandmother under the bus to get elected.

i had no problem reading this.

1. calling this guy my hero.
2. your concern for the pastor and grandma is genuine.
3. that always fresh "under the bus" was brilliant.

seriously, thanks for the frank marshall davis thing. he certainly had a clear discription of life during his time.

[Wild Cobra]

The left believes he's a socialist, but not a commie. The right believes he's a commie. I guess that makes him a socialist. Hence, the le of the editorial.

Nope.

He and his followers are "Obamunists!"

[Cry Havoc]

Nope.

He and his followers are "Obamunists!"

Yes.

Because what Obama stands for is SO much worse and more evil than Bush/Cheney's idea of helping the rich and dumping on the poor, and making excuses and bailouts for massive corporations while the hurting American public falls farther into debt.

I'd rather have a communist for a President than a President-acting-CEO who actively seeks to widen the income disparity between the wealthy and the middle to lower classes.

[2centsworth]

Yes.

Because what Obama stands for is SO much worse and more evil than Bush/Cheney's idea of helping the rich and dumping on the poor, and making excuses and bailouts for massive corporations while the hurting American public falls farther into debt.

I'd rather have a communist for a President than a President-acting-CEO who actively seeks to widen the income disparity between the wealthy and the middle to lower classes.

More communist talk. The poor people in the country are considered rich around the world because of Capitalism. China's growing middle class is because they have opened their markets to capitalist. The socialist drivel will just lead us to a fascist state.

cry havoc, it's late so excuse my lack of patience, but your post makes me sick to my stomach.

[Anti.Hero]

The left believes he's a socialist, but not a commie. The right believes he's a commie. I guess that makes him a socialist. Hence, the le of the editorial.

Commies are just socialists in a hurry.



Top 10% of income tax wage earners pay for 40% of the country. Top 25% pay for 80%. Bottom 50% pay for 3%.

But life still isn't fair. The dems will continue to enforce class envy on the ignorant. Dems will still make you hate whitey. We need more redistribution of wealth. And oh, it's coming.

[clambake]

Commies are just socialists in a hurry.



Top 10% of income tax wage earners pay for 40% of the country. Top 25% pay for 80%. Bottom 50% pay for 3%.

But life still isn't fair. The dems will continue to enforce class envy on the ignorant. Dems will still make you hate whitey. We need more redistribution of wealth.

now we have to bail out the big 3 and pay to re-tool their factories so they can maintain their wealth and still deliver a "for " product.

this is corrupt.

[Anti.Hero]

I'd rather have a communist for a President than a President-acting-CEO who actively seeks to widen the income disparity between the wealthy and the middle to lower classes.

Dude. Do you not realize Obama's policies won't even help the "middle class".

All this garbage they will use to "attack whitey" only hurt the hard working middle class dude trying to use the same tactics to gain wealth. Capital gains tax increase, dividends tax increase, etc will not hurt the rich guy nearly as much as it will a 20/30 yr old trying to start up some wealth through investments. It's like, let's take away the Bush Cuts and a family's $2500 and give them back $1000 from the oil companies. the math, we are killing Bush's evil plan and attacking the evil oil companies. Yes We Can.

The secret is the dems are just as elitist as the repugs, but the dems do not want others to get on their level. They keep the people weak and controllable. Anyone who looks at their policies and the actual affects can see this. The repugs don't give a as long as they are getting theirs.

They've got all these people brainwashed, and 30 years from now when they are still working at wall-mart they will still be too ignorant to see what is going on.


It really is amazing to see how the dems have achieved this illusion that they are the class "for the people." The American Dream: start from nothing and make it big, but not too big or else you'll be demonized, guilt ridden, and hated.

[Anti.Hero]

now we have to bail out the big 3 and pay to re-tool their factories so they can maintain their wealth and still deliver a "for " product.

this is corrupt.

Definitely.

Kind of like legislature forcing loan companies to give out loans to people who can not really afford them.

It's idiotic on both sides, I do not disagree with this. Probably not idiotic though, they just don't give a . It's just tax money.

[Spurminator]

Capital gains tax increase, dividends tax increase, etc will not hurt the rich guy nearly as much as it will a 20/30 yr old trying to start up some wealth through investments. It's like, let's take away the Bush Cuts and a family's $2500 and give them back $1000 from the oil companies.

Obama's capital gains tax increase would only apply to individuals making over $250K.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806120006

[FromWayDowntown]

What I'm really interested in is electing a President who will claim for himself unprecedented executive power while manifesting a willingness to defy both legislative and judicial acts with radical and untenable legal arguments for vesting incredible amounts of unchecked power into the White House. Truly, I think of "electing" a President as being my quadrennial chance to pretend as though I have some say in who shall serve as King.

I'm also interested in electing a King, errrrr President who can ensure that the nation incurs incredible expenses through actions that create more problems than they solve. Frankly, who doesn't want to live in a nation that is so burdened by a spending deficit that its currency is steadily weakening against the world market and whose people have seen nearly-unprecedented increases in the costs of things that have largely become essential to their lives? I think of electing a President as a means to ensure that the income I'm allowed to keep goes less and less far with each passing year.

Finally, I'm interested in electing a President who does little more than instill grave skepticism a large portion of the populous. Really, what fun would life be without intense divisiveness with a large group of people questioning the government and another large group contending vociferously that the first large group has no basis to question the President's motives or the results of his actions? I think of electing a President as a means to ensure that the political gulf in the country will be exploited and expanded for purely political gain.

Screw "socialist" candidates -- it's really about ensuring that the American President lives up to the legacy of the Administration that came before it and will boldly take on the foregoing issues in a way that past Administrations have been unwilling to!

[herzlman]

I only wish Obama was actually as liberal as the right thinks he is.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I only wish Obama was actually as liberal as the right thinks he is.

You mean like proposing to give every American $1000 like he did today, taking the money from the oil companies?

[clambake]

What I'm really interested in is electing a President who will claim for himself unprecedented executive power while manifesting a willingness to defy both legislative and judicial acts with radical and untenable legal arguments for vesting incredible amounts of unchecked power into the White House. Truly, I think of "electing" a President as being my quadrennial chance to pretend as though I have some say in who shall serve as King.

I'm also interested in electing a King, errrrr President who can ensure that the nation incurs incredible expenses through actions that create more problems than they solve. Frankly, who doesn't want to live in a nation that is so burdened by a spending deficit that its currency is steadily weakening against the world market and whose people have seen nearly-unprecedented increases in the costs of things that have largely become essential to their lives? I think of electing a President as a means to ensure that the income I'm allowed to keep goes less and less far with each passing year.

Finally, I'm interested in electing a President who does little more than instill grave skepticism a large portion of the populous. Really, what fun would life be without intense divisiveness with a large group of people questioning the government and another large group contending vociferously that the first large group has no basis to question the President's motives or the results of his actions? I think of electing a President as a means to ensure that the political gulf in the country will be exploited and expanded for purely political gain.

Screw "socialist" candidates -- it's really about ensuring that the American President lives up to the legacy of the Administration that came before it and will boldly take on the foregoing issues in a way that past Administrations have been unwilling to!

aah, utopia, and to insure there are enough grapes for the poor to feed me! what could four more years hurt?

[FromWayDowntown]

You mean like proposing to give every American $1000 like he did today, taking the money from the oil companies?

The government should really handle financing such payments.

They could be called "economic stimulus" checks or something like that.

[clambake]

You mean like proposing to give every American $1000 like he did today, taking the money from the oil companies?

"thou shalt spred the american oil under our american feet so that we, too, can wade through it's glorious treasures." (any spoken discord will transfer their share to the poor, if there is, in fact, any poor.)......

[T Park]

socialism has failed at every attempt. But hey!he's young has great soundbites and says all the right cool things!!!!!!!!!

[LocosPorJuana]

remember the story of christ and the prince who wanted to enter the kingdom of god? Jesus asked the prince to give all his riches to the poor, the prince just turned away an ran.

[FromWayDowntown]

socialism has failed at every attempt. But hey!he's young has great soundbites and says all the right cool things!!!!!!!!!

Apparently, bundling up a candidate in a nice philosophical box that will appeal to the lowest common denominator in the electorate remains a winning strategy.