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It was a joke!
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It was a joke!
My bad, I didn't catch the sarcasm.
Doesn't translate in text sometimes
If this deal goes down I think it signals two things....
1) Hill is not ready - I doubt they let Hill go or don't sign him, but he'll likely spend the entire year in Austin, barring injury in the backcourt.
2) Vaughn is gone - No way the Spurs keep that many diminutive guards on the roster. And if they do, I don't think Vaughn will see the court unless there's a 30 point blowout either way.
All in all, I'd be very pleased with the signing. It should provide the scoring punch that's been lacking from the backup PG spot for a couple seasons and give time for George Hill to get comfortable. In fact, I think it might help George Hill to watch how Pargo operates in the Spurs offense because his role in the future is likely to be the same.
I wonder how the money issue is going to work out, because it's clear Pargo is looking for more money than he left on the table to re-sign with the Hornets. However it happens, I hope it happens.
I agree with the above, about Jacque Vaughn all but gone if Pargo comes. I kinda feel bad for Jacque, he really grew on me during his time here, becoming a favorite of mine. Hopefully he stays on the roster, but more as a player-coach like Lindsey Hunter with the Pistons.
Well then the question you have to ask is:
Is Parker/Vaughn/Pargo or Parker/Pargo/Hill much better than Parker/Vaughn/Hill? Especially when considering you could use the money from Pargo to add to the SF/PF spot where there is seemingly more need.
Not saying you're wrong or anything, but don't forget that whatever we sign Pargo to, we'll have that same amount still left from either the MLE or LLE, whichever they don't sign Pargo with. If they're looking at stabilizing the small forward or bigman spot, they'll have another chance at it.
IMO, Pargo is better than any SF/PF option the Spurs have a shot at with the same money.
He has the chance to come in and play some meaningful minutes behind Parker. I think if he plays well enough he might also be able to steal some minutes at SG.
So yes, I think the roster with Pargo is much stronger than the roster without....regardless of whether that buys you a SF/PF. BTW, do you have a SF/PF in mind that could be had for $2M? Just curious...
True, but assuming they sign Pargo and Hill that would leave us with only one roster spot to: find someone who can score at the 3 because we only have Bowen/Udoka outside of small ball line-ups and find someone besides an unproven Tolliver, dog house Bonner and rookie Ian to back up Tim.
For the amount of money the Spurs have (LLE and MLE) Pargo is about as good as you can expect to get, so maybe they are just going on value at this point. It just creates a log jam of sorts if they do not rid themselves of Vaughn or Hill in some way, shape or form.
I was thinking more along the lines of acquiring through a trade.
I like Jacque as a professional and think he improved as much as a 30+ year old veteran could....
Having said that, if he's not going to be playing except in very limited minutes I would rather the Spurs use his roster spot to sign and develop a young talent.
If it's through trade then I don't see how a Pargo signing impacts, with his spot or his contract $$.
The assumption there is that an inbound player means one or more is likely to be outbound...whether via the trade itself, a seperate trade, or waiving.
I Think Gist has the potential our third SF. He can be put in against big SF's this year. He showed nice shooting touch in the SL. I like his athletesim.
Just Say No to Jannero
by Matthew Powell on Aug 5, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
(Thanks to PtR member znimrod for the heads up on this.)
That is unequivocally the lamest le I've ever blogged.
I do not want Jannero Pargo on the Spurs. Why, you ask? Because he sucks. The less sucky players, the better. That's what I think. Call me crazy.
Why does he suck? He averages less assists per 48 minutes than Tony Parker. He's a career 39.5% shooter from the field. He's a career 36.5% shooter from 3. You know how many players shot better than 36.5% from 3 last year?
65. They're not hard to find.
His TS% last year was 46.8%. That is absolutely pathetic. You know who posted better numbers last year?
Jacque Vaughn.
No, I'm not making that up.
Jannero Pargo is going to get paid millions a year for multiple years. You can shake a NBDL team a couple Jannero Pargos will fall out. He's a replacement level talent, and the fact the Spurs are even thinking about him makes me sad and frustrated.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/...-no-to-jannero
It's quite a strange rumor.
Spurs also haven't sign Hill, you add to include that in an analysis of this.
You can come with some theory :
- Spurs didn't like what they saw from Hill in SL and want another backup PG.
- Spurs have received a good offer for Hill. They want to get anotehr backup PG before trading him.
Given that Hill has been less than stellar in SL, I guess that the correct answer is that Spurs didn't think that Hill can be a good backup PG. It doens't look good for him and Spurs' scouting ability.
Spurs have received a good offer for Hill. They want to get anotehr backup PG before trading him.
Eh, I find it hard to believe after his showing at the Summer League.
How about keep all 4.
Parker, Pargo, Vaughn
Send Hill to the DLeague for the year to get lots of playing time and seasoning as PG in the Spurs system. Then when Pargo and Vaughn are gone next season, bring Hill in to backup Tony.
As somebody already posted, we would probably one of the shortest teams in the league. GO MICROBALL!!
If the Spurs are going after Pargo, that means they think he is better than Hill and Vaughn. If you can improve for less than $2M/year, you do it. And like others have said, signing Pargo doesn't really affect the ability to add a 3/4 if one becomes available that could help.
Trading Vaughn is one option. But the Spurs could always just release him and eat his minimum contract. No biggie.
Bottomline is that Pargo can help bring the scoring the Spurs lack. In this situation, it's add him and then worry about the consequences later.
It's simple...
They needed more offensive production from their backup PG and Vaughn couldn't deliver for them. Spurs were so unhappy with this lack of production that they went for Barry and Ginobili as backup PGs in the playoffs.
They were looking to upgrade this summer and had high hopes that George Hill could be that guy. Unfortunately, George Hill proved in the summer leage that he wasn't up to the task...at least not yet.
So the Spurs are searching for another guy (not named Vaughn) who can give them offensive production at the backup PG.
Pargo is that guy.
Uh anyone got any news on pargo as of late?
Its been quite a while since we last heard from him...
Oh and im a newbie..just exited to post my first post and im looking forward to the experience and challenges that this forum will bring on to me!!!
welcome to the board!Uh anyone got any news on pargo as of late?
Its been quite a while since we last heard from him...
Oh and im a newbie..just exited to post my first post and im looking forward to the experience and challenges that this forum will bring on to me!!!
Thank You!!! Im exited
Probably won't be any news for a while...but your best bet is to Google "Jannero Pargo", go to the "News" tab, and select "Sort by Date". That should give you the latest and greatest.Uh anyone got any news on pargo as of late?
Its been quite a while since we last heard from him...
Oh and im a newbie..just exited to post my first post and im looking forward to the experience and challenges that this forum will bring on to me!!!
Things tend to go slow in the off-season and I doubt there's any credibility to the rumor that there is already a contract in place or workings of a contract.
They've had discussions with his agent, so we should take that as a positive sign that there's mutual interest. If no other team swoops in with a big offer (would likely have done so already), the Spurs have a good shot at retaining Pargo's services for the next year or two....but it'll likely take some time.
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