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    I want some nasty GaryJohnston's Avatar
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    Cowboys fans, are you excited? What do you hope see or which young guys do you hope they profile this year?


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    New Fang. . . O-Factor's Avatar
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    I'll be watching. I really like Hard Knocks as a program. I watched the Ravens, Cowboys and Chief editions of it. They usually profile alot of guys who are on the bubble so to speak. I'd like to see about Amendola and the rookies Jenkins, Jones and Scandrick.

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    PELICANS!!! BRHornet45's Avatar
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    sons when will Jessica Simpson and those big ass ties show up to camp ?

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    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    I'm interested to see the flashback edition with Campo doing the "Then and Now" stuff with the 1st H.Ks.

    Other than that just get a look at a camp that has a of a lot of characters in it...

    from the head coach to the delinquent new CB.

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    I think they'll feature Pac quite a bit, but who knows. I honestly don't care who they profile. I just want to see them focused so they can win some games and get themselves #6 this year.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    I'm looking forward to it. Just getting some Cowboys coverage up here will be nice.

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    POW! POW! Evan's Avatar
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    HBO is tossing around doing a year long one this year. Odds are pretty low though.

    The producers said if they ever do it for sure the Cowboys will be the first team they call since "Jerry gets it"

    They don't really address it here but this is a good read.

    OXNARD, Calif. - An NFL training camp is three weeks of grueling work, and what's accomplished in two-a-days now becomes the foundation for what happens in the 119 days of the season.

    This will be the fourth time since 2001 HBO's Hard Knocks, produced by NFL Films, has provided the public with an all-access pass into the world of training camp, and this will be the second reality-TV peek into the Dallas Cowboys, who were captured on film during the 2002 training camp in San Antonio when current secondary coach Dave Campo was the head coach.

    But what many don't know is that the making of Hard Knocks is just as gargantuan, if not more so, as preparing an 80-player roster for the upcoming 17-week NFL season.

    Hard Knocks may only span from the team's three-or-so-week training camp to final cuts the beginning of September, but NFL Films starts working on the show months before the airing the first of five weekly episodes, kicking off this summer at 9 p.m. (CDT) Wednesday on HBO (10 p.m. on both coasts).

    Planning began in April, and NFL Films was present at every OTA and mini-camp the Cowboys held back home at Valley Ranch. Their crews even spent time with starting quarterback Tony Romo in Wisconsin and starting tight end Jason Witten in Dallas.

    While footage is shot during this pre-camp period, the crews' presence is mainly intended to let the players get acclimated with the cameras, although associate producer Alicia Zubikowski said that to the Dallas Cowboys, dealing with media attention is second nature.

    "The media is always around them, so I think they get used to it," Zubikowski said.

    The Hard Knocks crew arrived here about a week before the team to get the site ready to film, and from the second the team descended the steps from its charter flight at Naval Air Station Point Mugu, the cameras were rolling, and those cameras are everywhere.

    There are four cameras rolling at every practice, and after practice, they follow players everywhere around the River Ridge facility, from meeting rooms to training rooms. There are even four rooms - owner and general manager Jerry Jones' office, his son and right hand man, Stephen Jones' office and two meeting rooms for players and coaches - equipped with robotic cameras to capture every activity going on inside.

    Capturing everything is impossible, so the producers and directors at NFL Films map out potential storylines to pursue. At every practice, and even before and after, every camera crew has an assignment for what or who to shoot. These assignments usually coincide with the six Cowboys - players and coaches - who are mic-ed up at every practice with wireless microphones.

    Zubikowski and other directors listen in to the wires during practice to find the good stuff, and a lot of the time it's the audio that's the most interesting.

    "We like to say, even though the pictures are always great, it's an audio-driven show," said Mark Ricci, sound man for one of the camera crews.

    With the cameras rolling from 7 in the morning to midnight, Hard Knocks ends up with tons of footage to sift through, a task that takes place back at NFL Films headquarters in Mount Laurel, N.J. The Oxnard crew sends upwards of 25 hour-long tapes, along with four to five rolls of film, back to headquarters via two daily courier shipments.

    When the packages arrive at NFL Films, supervising producer Ken Rodgers, along with his staff of 12 other producers, begin the process of turning the footage into an hour-long show. Rodgers said for every 200 minutes of footage, one minute will make the show. "The editorial process is really one of constant filtering, getting all that material down to the best, and then the very best, and then the extraordinary material," Rodgers said.

    Even once that "extraordinary material" is identified, Rodgers must make more tough decisions about what makes the show. As of this past Wednesday, he said he has 40 solid storylines in the works, but at most only half will actually make the final cut. Those storylines are allowed to develop until a few days before each episode airs, although if something important happens a day before each episode premieres, Rodgers will bend over backwards to adjust.

    As a result, each episode is finalized at literally the last minute.

    "The process, technically, to get this out the door and to HBO is absolutely frightening," Rodgers said. "We actually drive our final tape, when it's done, to HBO, and it gets to HBO in New York about an hour before it airs."

    With all the unprecedented access to the team's daily activities, it's easy to think the Cowboys would be wary of what they say and do.

    Not so.

    That's because NFL Films and the Cowboys have developed a mutual trust Zubikowski and Rodgers said is unlike any relationship they've had with any other team involved in the show, which includes the Baltimore Ravens (2001) and the Kansas City Chiefs (2007), along with the Jacksonville Jaguars (2004) featured on NFL Network.

    "The great thing about the Cowboys in particular is their trust and belief in us to do right by them, and our trust in them in knowing what their concerns would be," Rodgers said.

    Because of that trust, NFL Films doesn't have to worry about hurdling any obstacles to get the footage and access it needs, something Zubikowski said is a result of dealing with Cowboys PR director Rich Dalrymple.

    "You can definitely tell Rich is a professional at his job," Zubikowski said. "I've been to a lot of teams and there are very few PR guys like him. He knows what he's doing and he's very good at his job, and that helps."

    While the team does trust Hard Knocks not to air anything that could compromise a compe ive advantage, there are moments when camera crews are asked to avert their eyes and ears. Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips said he's asked the camera crews to turn a deaf ear once already so he could speak privately with his team, and the camera crew was more than obliging.

    "We're not out to be National Inquirer and scoop the dirty details of camp," Rodgers said, stressing Hard Knocks is about telling the compelling stories making up training camp, not out-reporting sports pages across the nation.

    But that doesn't mean they'll sacrifice a story to protect the Cowboys' image either.

    "We are not out to glamorize the Cowboys and make this a PR film," Rodgers said. "This is reality, and sometimes reality, such as the release of (wide receiver) Terry Glenn, can be painful. That's a tough situation that you can't hide from. That's someone's livelihood and a player who's well liked within the organization, and the fallout of that has to be addressed. There's no getting around that."

    Even Phillips said he'd be watching when the first episode airs Wednesday night, despite what might be exposed.

    "I'd like to watch it just to see our guys," Phillips said. "I've said it before, I think we have a lot of characters with character, and I think it'll show."

    Stay tuned.
    Last edited by Evan; 08-05-2008 at 08:14 AM.

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    Should be fun to watch with all the personalities

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    sons when will Jessica Simpson and those big ass ties show up to camp ?
    I really hope her massive knockers are part of the intro

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    PELICANS!!! BRHornet45's Avatar
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    I really hope her massive knockers are part of the intro
    yes son I agree. God bless that woman


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    I'm Spurtacus Spurtacus's Avatar
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    I wish I had HBO...

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    I would have rather seen an HBO special profiling the Oakland Raiders training camp, because I'm interested to know how the future AFC champions (and in all likelihood, Super Bowl champions too) work on playing with perfect fundamentals and executing mistake free plays on offense and defense with their all time record 18 Pro Bowl players. It's destined to happen, I just wish the little guys like me, who will never know true, Christ-like perfection such as the 2008 Raiders will display, can catch a glimpse of brilliance in the making.

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    I hope to see how the rookies are comin along. Also, Stanback and how he is comin along. It will be nice to see some Zach Thomas too.

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    I would have rather seen an HBO special profiling the Oakland Raiders training camp, because I'm interested to know how the future AFC champions (and in all likelihood, Super Bowl champions too) work on playing with perfect fundamentals and executing mistake free plays on offense and defense with their all time record 18 Pro Bowl players. It's destined to happen, I just wish the little guys like me, who will never know true, Christ-like perfection such as the 2008 Raiders will display, can catch a glimpse of brilliance in the making.
    Not many would care and Oakland wouldn't give them access.

    That place is as secretive as N-Korea.

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    Taco is as Taco does sir Taco's Avatar
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    Tonight @ 9:00 Pm Cst

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    yes!

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    this thread should be called, the official Jessica simpson cameo thread.=)
    I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting my Popcorn ready.

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    New Fang. . . O-Factor's Avatar
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    Loved the intro and ending with T.O on the beach.

    Im just glad football is back. I'd watch Hard Knocks no matter which team was profiled, but its even more enjoyable that its my team on this year.

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    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    Pretty good first episode. Not a lot of substance, but a of a lot of HBO style and flair. I need to get those guys to follow me around and make my life that dramatic.

    Pacman nailing Felix Jones with a trashcan full of water off of the hotel room balcony while Demarcus Ware played the set man was pretty damn funny.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    The thing with Pacman and Patrick Crayton catching punts with arms full of footballs was cool.

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    Taco is as Taco does sir Taco's Avatar
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    I wish I had HBO...
    in a couple of days you should be able to go to their website and watch it on the web

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    Taco is as Taco does sir Taco's Avatar
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    The thing with Pacman and Patrick Crayton catching punts with arms full of footballs was cool.
    yeah that was cool

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    POW! POW! Evan's Avatar
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    Pretty cool hearing Jerry and Glenn's agent get mad at each other

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    I have never seen a hard knocks episode and I have to admit it was pretty kick ass. A friend of mine and I were discussing it would be cool since we no longer have inside the NFL to have a hard knocks during the season basically profiling 2 teams (different teams each week) and how they get ready for the game that weekend. Usually picking the interesting matchups that week. What do you guys think, do you think that would work?

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    That would be far too expensive, but an awesome idea.

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