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    What about Vaughn, Bonner and a low draft pick in a sign and trade for Dorell Wright. I'd do that if I were either team. The Heat need a vet point on the bench and Bonner makes more sense than Wright given Beasely, Haslem, Marion and James Jones.

    Wright would fit right into the small forward hole in San Antonio.

    Humor me:

    Parker/Pargo/Hill
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    Bowen/Udoka/Wright
    Duncan/Tolliver/Gist
    Oberto/Thomas/Mahinmi

    More athletic, younger, improved ball handling, better shooter, better individual defenders, and a couple of young players in the pipeline. The Spurs could win with that roster.

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    Get out of here with that Pargo defending 2s nonsense. Pargo is an above average defender, but against points, not 2 guards. Pargo is not an offensive 2, he is not a defensive 2. He's a point guard. If Pop goes small, it'll be with Parker at the 2 long before Pargo.
    Pargo has played the 2 and played it well. As a second teamer he isnt gonna be going against big time players. The guy has the wing span of a 6-6 guy and can play the two when need. He will be the 3rd string 2.

    The guy can shoot and create his own shot, thats what a 2 needs to do. Besides alot of teams out west do go small, Dallas Phx, LA, and last yr NO.

    They guy is a better 2 than Fin or barry. Neither could defend or get their own shot dispite the ht advantage.

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    What about Vaughn, Bonner and a low draft pick in a sign and trade for Dorell Wright. I'd do that if I were either team. The Heat need a vet point on the bench and Bonner makes more sense than Wright given Beasely, Haslem, Marion and James Jones.

    Wright would fit right into the small forward hole in San Antonio.
    Thats what I was thinking but I dont think the Heat wanna give him up.

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    Thats what I was thinking but I dont think the Heat wanna give him up.
    The Heat haven't signed him while strangely re-upping Bobby Jones. I don't think the Heat want Wright. And things are not great for Wright, either. Most of the free agent money has dried up. He's a prime s&t guy.

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    Pargo has played the 2 and played it well. As a second teamer he isnt gonna be going against big time players. The guy has the wing span of a 6-6 guy and can play the two when need. He will be the 3rd string 2.


    Pargo has a 6-foot-2 wingspan. That's one of the shorter wingspans in the NBA. Nate Robinson, for example, has the same wingspan.

    Pargo has the wingspan of someone who is 5-foot-10 to 5-foot-11.

    They guy is a better 2 than Fin or barry. Neither could defend or get their own shot dispite the ht advantage.
    No way Pargo > Barry at the two. That is crazy talk. Pargo would be a midget with short arms if he played a lot of shooting guard. , he's even pretty small for a point guard.

    Pargo + Parker backcourt would work sometimes ... but rarely. About as often as we saw the Vaughn + Parker backcourt last year.

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    The Heat haven't signed him while strangely re-upping Bobby Jones. I don't think the Heat want Wright. And things are not great for Wright, either. Most of the free agent money has dried up. He's a prime s&t guy.
    Word out of Miami is than they have tendered him the 1 yr offer so they retain his rights but he has not signed because he is looking for a long term deal.

    I heard on the radio a week or so he want a 5 yr deal worth about 45-48mil and Miami is not locking up anyone long term so they can be players in the 2010 FA period.

    I dont think the spurs would give him a long term deal for the same reason.

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    I think the Pargo Parker backcourt would work better only due to spacing and offensive punch/scoring threat.


    This is all jumping to conclusions that they will even sign the guy which I doubt happens.

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    I heard on the radio a week or so he want a 5 yr deal worth about 45-48mil and Miami is not locking up anyone long term so they can be players in the 2010 FA period.
    What the , that can't be right.

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    Word out of Miami is than they have tendered him the 1 yr offer so they retain his rights but he has not signed because he is looking for a long term deal.

    I heard on the radio a week or so he want a 5 yr deal worth about 45-48mil and Miami is not locking up anyone long term so they can be players in the 2010 FA period.


    Are you just making things up now? Dorell Wright $48M contract? More like he's looking at around $8M if he's lucky.

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    Pargo has a 6-foot-2 wingspan. That's one of the shorter wingspans in the NBA. Nate Robinson, for example, has the same wingspan.

    Pargo has the wingspan of someone who is 5-foot-10 to 5-foot-11.

    No way Pargo > Barry at the two. That is crazy talk. Pargo would be a midget with short arms if he played a lot of shooting guard. , he's even pretty small for a point guard.

    Pargo + Parker backcourt would work sometimes ... but rarely. About as often as we saw the Vaughn + Parker backcourt last year.
    I see what your sayn and your right, I think they can play together in spurts......what I mean with barry is he was a worthless defender and just a spot up shooter. Pargo is a good defender with long arm, Ht is not important reach is. a 6-6 guy with a long neck and shot arms is not as an effective as a 6-2 guy with long arms. Pargos reach makes him play bigger.

    That the same reason we drafted Hill, he has the wingspan of a 6-8 guy. Pargos ability to put the ball on the floor and create his own shot will allow him to play the two. But again he wont get mins with Mason and Manu there. The guy pr min is a very good scorer.

    Dont forget Barbos plays 2, Jason terry, Iverson, Farmar plays off the ball like a 2, Head from houston....all these guys are small 2 type player and pargo has similar skill set. But you are right Im sure he will play mostly behind parker. I just like the scoring and versitility he would give us.

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    Miami Speaks With Livingston And Pargo
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    With the list of free agent point guards growing smaller by the day, the Heat have spoken with the agents for both Shaun Livingston and Jannero Pargo, according to The Miami Herald.

    No offers were made, and the team remains in contact with Jason Williams as a fallback option.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...ton_and_pargo/

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    Miami Speaks With Livingston And Pargo
    Aug 06, 2008 6:36 PM EST
    With the list of free agent point guards growing smaller by the day, the Heat have spoken with the agents for both Shaun Livingston and Jannero Pargo, according to The Miami Herald.

    No offers were made, and the team remains in contact with Jason Williams as a fallback option.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...ton_and_pargo/
    Pargo not a fit for miami. Not a pass first guy that Riles likes.

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    Youuuuuuuu, you're good!

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    Youuuuuuuu, you're good!
    Just kidding with you, I don't even know why that other dude said it.

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    I see what your sayn and your right, I think they can play together in spurts......what I mean with barry is he was a worthless defender and just a spot up shooter. Pargo is a good defender with long arm, Ht is not important reach is. a 6-6 guy with a long neck and shot arms is not as an effective as a 6-2 guy with long arms. Pargos reach makes him play bigger.
    Pargo's wingspan is 6-foot-2.

    That the same reason we drafted Hill, he has the wingspan of a 6-8 guy.
    No, actually more of a 6-foot-4 or 6-foot-5 player.

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    Pargo's wingspan is 6-foot-2.

    No, actually more of a 6-foot-4 or 6-foot-5 player.
    I think Hill would be much more serviceable at defending NBA 2's than Pargo.

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    Pargo's wingspan is 6-foot-2.

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    This offseason is curious thus far. I'm enjoying it the way some one would a long chess match--it's not immediately gratifying but promises an unexpected and potentially dramatic conclusion.

    No question, though, the Spurs front office insists on getting it done their way.

    At 27 they could have drafted Chalmers, CDR or Arthur, but they chose Hill.
    At 45 they passed up on Walker and Hendrix in favor of Hairston.
    At 57 they drafted Gist--who now looks like a steal--but may not sign him.
    They pass over bigger name players in free agency in favor of George Mason Jr, an undersized 2.
    They signed Matt Bonner redundant Anthony Tolliver.
    They resign Kurt Thomas at a nice price--a "typical" Spur move amidst several uncertains.
    From what we know, they didn't make a run at Renaldo Balkman when he was available.
    Their flirting with Pargo, who brings scoring and ball handling but also crowds the back court and contributes to a general lack of height.

    I'm not passing judgement one way or another here, but things have not gone as one would expect.

    The Spurs 2008 off season will be looked back on in a few years as time of calculated brillance or unexpected incompetency. Only time will tell. I look forward to following this story arc.
    At 27 they could have drafted Greene and used him to trade for Artest.
    They waited too long for Maggette resulting in losing Barry to the Rockets.
    We signed ROGER Mason Jr. there weren't any bigger names that were affordable.
    A lot of good free agents migrated to Europe. These include potential signups like Krstic, Nachbar and Childress.

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    At 27 they could have drafted Greene and used him to trade for Artest.
    They waited too long for Maggette resulting in losing Barry to the Rockets.
    We signed ROGER Mason Jr. there weren't any bigger names that were affordable.
    A lot of good free agents migrated to Europe. These include potential signups like Krstic, Nachbar and Childress.

    Trade for Artest?


    Ugh, you want lunatics? Goodbye.

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    Trade for Artest?


    Ugh, you want lunatics? Goodbye.
    Come on T Park...you're better than this.

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    Come on T Park...you're better than this.
    Better than what?

    I don't nor ever want Ron Artest anywhere NEAR silver and black.

    I don't care if the team loses in the playoffs for years to come and Artest would gaurantee a ring.

    Artest is a nut job, a peanut head, and a thug.

    NOT Spurs material.

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    Better than what?

    I don't nor ever want Ron Artest anywhere NEAR silver and black.

    I don't care if the team loses in the playoffs for years to come and Artest would gaurantee a ring.

    Artest is a nut job, a peanut head, and a thug.

    NOT Spurs material.
    Pretty ignorant post.

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    Pretty ignorant post.

    How is it ignorant?

    Hes nuts, and hes a thug.

    Fact.

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    How is it ignorant?

    Hes nuts, and hes a thug.

    Fact.
    He is ghetto but I wouldn't call him a thug. I don't think he's nuts, I just think he's not very intelligent(the peanut head I agree with).

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