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    http://www.ecodibiella.it/a.php?id=13746

    It looks like Gist will sign or even has signed with Angelico Biella.

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    It just keeps getting worse.

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    I would have liked to see what he could have done in the NBA. I am curios what the Spurs next moves are...

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    James Gist is a prospect that could add a lot of versatilty to our roster by his abili y to be an active defender and be active around the rim offensively. If he continues to work hard I could see him being a contributor off the bench come 2010. Even though many fans want to see him don the silver and black this year, it's unrealistic because of the signing of roger mason at the wing along with finley. Minutes just wouldnt be there. For him to go overseas would be ideal.

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    Oh boy.

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    Der Willis der Spurs wird siegen! FlAVaK's Avatar
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    He actually does what Marcus Williams refused to do last summer!

    Sign in Europe. Get Minutes. Develope. Join Spurs later.

    IIRC Spurs wanted Williams to play in Europe. But he wanted to stay in the US. Spurs signed him. Waived him. Toros signed him. Waived him. Clippers signed him... a.s.o.

    I see Gist in Europe as a good sign of him not taking the Marcus Williams road to the NBA!

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    Spurs are fools if they let this guy get away.

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    Angelico Biella Roster

    I don`t know anbody but Reece Gaines from this Team.
    Maybe a good sign for Gist getting minutes if he signs there...

    Oh, Wiki has him already listed on their current roster

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallacanestro_Biella

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    Good find, Bruno. Here is a link to same information and a translation from Google.

    http://www.mondobasket.it/news-angel...t-bkt-5720.htm

    Translation: Italian » English
    Basketball Biella, here's James Gist
    Imminente the announcement of the agreement with the American wing
    It will be announced in all likelihood tomorrow, but is now sure that it will be the wing James Gist great holder dell'Angelico 2008/2009. His name had already been done in recent days as part of a close ballot, which also involved Charles Rhodes and James Mays. Gist is a class player 1986, 202 cm for about one hundred kilos: the choice was number 57 of San Antonio from Maryland. A curiosity that person shall be represented by the large number of videos that they see him on YouTube protagonist, who portray in action and during some interviews.

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    another bad news, this off season sucks!

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    me spurs FO

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    i dont trust in the FO anymore. it's started last year when they give up on Scola for nothing - move that cost us a championship(Scola was the thing that we miss in the lakers series).
    they fail to sign Splitter.
    in the draft they up and select a second round tipe PG and only now they see that he is not even good enough to be a back up PG and they look for another PG - Pargo to be the back up - what a waste of a first round pick!
    they also give up in the draft on players like Richard Hendrix, Bill Walker and DeVon Hardin in the second round.
    and now they not able to sign a second round pick.

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    This is probably okay -- they'll retain rights and bring him over next year. The extreeeeemely slow way of developing players.

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    it's like players we dont really need, we end being stuck with them. and the good ones go elsewhere. so much for going young. we lose gist. we're not signing hairston. if we sign pargo, we could be possibly letting hill go (or vaughn). our only young players will be mahinmi and tolliver(who we'll probably waive later.) im a little scared right now about how things will turn out. hopefully im proven wrong.

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    only ones who ever get to here i told ya so are my kids. i never saw what everyone else who fell(in love) with gist saw. can he play basketball? yes, but so can the rest of the guys he was playing with, (at about the same level ,non nba level) but i will stick to what i said about gist, it wont take him as long as it has ian to become nba ready.(and im one who doesnt think ian is nba ready still) so if its true and gist isnt in uniform this coming season, it wont bother me, i never saw him playing much anyhows(which in turns means at least he wont be shining the pine for 82 games) i know alot of people in here thought gist was our saviour, just like they did ian,(some still think it) and of course hill, but call it what you want i watched the SL games not just once, but at least twice each, not even caring about the score(just watching our players and (coach reactions while i could) and the spurs did what i thought they would do, sign the only guy who didnt looked lost, and was given the chance to stay, and play within his game(tolliver). the rest of the SL guys for the spurs looked basically like a watered down version of what alot of people call team usa(thou i would add our SL roster had no choice but to play spurs style bball) so some of the players imo couldnt get their game on.(show boat). somewhat like bonner, why on earth sign a guy who isnt gonna contribute just yet? or at all for that matter. personally by not signing gist it tells me the spurs have better moves ahead. thank god.......ian has been playing for the spurs it seems like forever, and he has still to this day not made an impression on me,(not like the way some ppl. in here talk about him) he looked like he could move his feet just a little better this past SL and thats all the improvement i seen in him (not sure who is in charge of scouting big men for the spurs, but other then getting david, then dropping a season and getting lucky with timmy, they waste alot of names and alot of picks) look at championship roster bigs, for the most part every yr. we have a 7fter. next to tim, and then someone in the FO says (nah rasho,nazr,elson, etc aint good enough anymore), lets find someone better, and every yr. it seems here we go again.(only this yr we go with the guy pop has been either torching or trying to get for the last 3 yrs it seems, the giant 6'9 almost 40 kurt thomas)......imo theses are all good signs the spurs FO have something good waiting for us, and god willing its coming soon

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    This is probably okay -- they'll retain rights and bring him over next year. The extreeeeemely slow way of developing players.
    bingo

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    only ones who ever get to here i told ya so are my kids. i never saw what everyone else who fell(in love) with gist saw. can he play basketball? yes, but so can the rest of the guys he was playing with, (at about the same level ,non nba level) but i will stick to what i said about gist, it wont take him as long as it has ian to become nba ready.(and im one who doesnt think ian is nba ready still) so if its true and gist isnt in uniform this coming season, it wont bother me, i never saw him playing much anyhows(which in turns means at least he wont be shining the pine for 82 games) i know alot of people in here thought gist was our saviour, just like they did ian,(some still think it) and of course hill, but call it what you want i watched the SL games not just once, but at least twice each, not even caring about the score(just watching our players and (coach reactions while i could) and the spurs did what i thought they would do, sign the only guy who didnt looked lost, and was given the chance to stay, and play within his game(tolliver). the rest of the SL guys for the spurs looked basically like a watered down version of what alot of people call team usa(thou i would add our SL roster had no choice but to play spurs style bball) so some of the players imo couldnt get their game on.(show boat). somewhat like bonner, why on earth sign a guy who isnt gonna contribute just yet? or at all for that matter. personally by not signing gist it tells me the spurs have better moves ahead. thank god.......ian has been playing for the spurs it seems like forever, and he has still to this day not made an impression on me,(not like the way some ppl. in here talk about him) he looked like he could move his feet just a little better this past SL and thats all the improvement i seen in him (not sure who is in charge of scouting big men for the spurs, but other then getting david, then dropping a season and getting lucky with timmy, they waste alot of names and alot of picks) look at championship roster bigs, for the most part every yr. we have a 7fter. next to tim, and then someone in the FO says (nah rasho,nazr,elson, etc aint good enough anymore), lets find someone better, and every yr. it seems here we go again.(only this yr we go with the guy pop has been either torching or trying to get for the last 3 yrs it seems, the giant 6'9 almost 40 kurt thomas)......imo theses are all good signs the spurs FO have something good waiting for us, and god willing its coming soon
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    For those who are saying this is good because Gist will develope a year or two overseas and then the Spurs can sign him, wake up already.

    That Splitter thing was no fluke. It is a sign of things to come. If you get a guy that developes overseas, teams over there will sign him. They will outbid you. Well, I should say outbid us (Spurs) who will not throw serious, high dollars at some "NBA unproven" player. And where the Spurs don't draw the line on offers, the NBA will do it for them with salary cap restrictions or rookie pay scale tables. Factor in the dropping dollar, rising gas prices, the lack of salary restrictions that allow teams there to include endorsements as part of the constract, and costs of living here as well as tax free mulah over there, it's no contest.

    Players can't go from HS to pros here, they will skip college and go make the dough overseas. More top recruits will do this now. And those teams will see a "potentially next LeBron, Kobe, KG", etc. And they will outbid teams. Role players like Childress, Boykins, Delfino are getting more money there than they will here.

    If Gist (or whoever else in the future) shows NBA potential, teams overseas will want them and they can outbid NBA teams for them.

    If Gist is worth signing in a year or two, if he shows mouth watering NBA potential, don't think teams overseas won't notice and have more money to throw at them.

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    Dammit...just dammit. We need him now. Our big three are running out of seasons for players to got to Europe and "develop".

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    i dont trust in the FO anymore. it's started last year when they give up on Scola for nothing - move that cost us a championship(Scola was the thing that we miss in the lakers series).
    they fail to sign Splitter.
    in the draft they up and select a second round tipe PG and only now they see that he is not even good enough to be a back up PG and they look for another PG - Pargo to be the back up - what a waste of a first round pick!
    they also give up in the draft on players like Richard Hendrix, Bill Walker and DeVon Hardin in the second round.
    and now they not able to sign a second round pick.
    This isn't about the front office. This is about a trend in the NBA that we're going to continue to see, especially when the dollar is weak and the Euro is strong. If a young player wants to actually play basketball and get paid reasonably well---as opposed to sitting on the bench, "learning the system," and having a non-guaranteed contract, they're going to go overseas.

    As for Hill being a 'waste' of a pick, let's just hold off on that assessment for a while. His shot obviously needs work, but he's got some solid skills (esp. defensively) that fit in on this team. When you pick as late as the Spurs do in the draft year after year, you have to look for diamonds in the rough. It's easy to say that one guy is 'NBA ready' and another guy isn't----but you don't really know that for a year or two in most cases.

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    not good.. not good...

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    Oh well.

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    I'm quite puzzled by Spurs offseason so far.

    Spurs are focusing all of their resources on guards and centers :
    - They used their top two draft picks and a PG (Hill) and on a SG (Haiston).
    - They spend a big part of the MLE on a SG (Mason) and are said to ba after another PG (Pargo).
    - They have re-signed a center (Thomas).
    It looks like they aren't worried about their forwards while it was arguably Spurs' main weakness last year. If this info is true, they let go one who shows some good things during SL.

    I'm also puzzled by the players Spurs signed. They have signed under the radar players in the draft or FA.


    Anyway, I won't judge an offseason that isn't finished or players that I barely know. But it doesn't look good for the moment. I have been skeptic about Spurs' move for a couple of years but I'm truly lost at what Spurs' FO do this summer. Let's hope that I'm the only one who is lost and that Spurs' FO knows exactly what he is doing and is still competent.

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    Gist would be joining San Antonio's (Clark, HS) own Trent Plaisted. Plaisted was drafted 11 picks ahead of Gist in this year's draft (Detoit). Here is some insight that may help, regarding Plaisted's contract and it may relate to what Gist is doing, also.

    http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archiv...rent-plaisted/
    Plaisted and Washington head to Europe
    Published by Matt Watson on July 31, 2008 in 2008 Draft, Contracts and From the news. 10 Comments
    We knew from the start that one of the reasons the Pistons drafted Trent Plaisted and Deron Washington was because they were willing to start their professional careers overseas. Well, it’s happening. Plaisted will spend 2007-08 in Italy. From Daily Herald, a newspaper in Provo, UT:

    The former BYU center, who forfeited his final year of college eligibility, has signed a one-year contract with a top-level Italian team, Angelico Biella (also known as Pallacanestro Biella.)

    The industrial town of Biella, which has about 40,000 residents, sits at the base of the Alps and has no soccer team.

    “So they’re into their basketball,” Plaisted told the Daily Herald on Wednesday while vacationing in Idaho. “I guess I don’t know for sure, but the plan right now is that I will play a lot.”

    […] “I was on board (with going to Europe),” Plaisted said. “I’m lucky. The team I’m going to is a Division I (also known as Serie A) team that knows my situation and they’re going to allow me to develop and do those things I need to do to improve so I can go back to the Pistons. There’s great compe ion, and I’m really excited.”

    Exact terms of the deal weren’t reported, but I’m guessing he’ll actually end up making more than if he stayed in the states.

    Plaisted said the contract details look even better when considering the tax credit and exchange rate.

    “I’m not breaking the bank,” he said. “But it’s a good contract.”

    All Plaisted will be responsible for is food, gas and cell phone. The rest is taken care of by the team, plus he’ll be given six round-trip airline tickets.

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