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Hopefully this doesn't one day replace the Jacob Riis quote.
Could be but it's not like the Spurs have had a big like Mahinmi that they try to replace on a yearly basis. It could be just a big replace a big.
Najera ended up signing after Vegas was over, so the Spurs had time to pull back their offer if they thought they had the answer in SL. Plus, the Spurs had the players in working out before summer league started so hard to figure out if the chicken or egg was first.
Hopefully this doesn't one day replace the Jacob Riis quote.
1. i truly think that with Scola we would have beat the Lakers, he would have helped us with his rebound and gave us another scoring threat.
2. in the best scenario Hill will be a back up PG and play a 15 minutes per game, a back up PG that play 15 minutes per game can be found in cheap in the FA or even in the second round of the draft, a back up PG is not an high need because we have Parker who is young and play 30+ minutes per game.
we were had the possibility to take Donte Green for example who could have been our 3 for the future.
None, really. The only thing the Spurs can do is put some pressure on the team when they go to make their periodic visits, but that's probably a bit optimistic that the Spurs would have that kind of influence.What guarantee do we have that he'll play the 3 in europe?
If the Spurs want Gist to play the 4 in the NBA (which is also a possibility), then he needs to put on 20-30 pounds to help him play better defense in the post. That is also something that isn't going to happen overnight.
I don't usually meltdown on the front office, but what the are they doing? Maybe they have a plan, but everything they've done so far is so jumbled and confusing that I don't really understand what the their end game is.
It's the "James Curse". Ever since James Silas ruined his knee, nobody named James has prospered for the Spurs.
James Eakins 16 games in 1977
James Johnstone 6 games in 1982
James White! 6 games in 2006-07
James Gist! 0 games Pallacanestro in 2008-09, Outer Slobovia in 2009-2020
We'll have to agree to disagree on #1. Scola plays the same position as Duncan - PF or undersized C. Duncan has been very clear that he works better with someone who can play a more traditional C role - anchor the D, look for putbacks, rebound. Oberto and Thomas play that role, albeit with less size than Robinson did. No other Cs we've had since Robinson have fit that role better, the FO has spent a lot of time looking, any will probably continue to do so throughout Duncan's career. But Scola will never be as good as Duncan, so letting him walk (although, to a division rival was not ideal) had to happen. I don't think Scola would fit in well with the Duncan-era Spurs, this year or any year.
I don't understand it all either. But I have faith that there is an end game. And I'm okay going on that faith, this organization has brought 4 les home. They're doing something right and I don't believe they'll screw up Duncan's last years.
Last edited by duncan228; 08-07-2008 at 12:28 PM.
If you "had" Scola
It would have been Duncan at Center, Scola at PF, and Bowen at SF. A very formidable front line. I never pigeonhole players into positions. You always put your 5 best players on the court no matter what.
Time to start looking at Bonzi and Curry seriously again
Bonzi gets you extra possessions and rebounds. And he is a good inside passer and slasher to the basket.
Curry for all his laziness, has really improved. Now he only gets completely owned by Yao Ming and Duncan. He can hold his own as roughly about a 5-10 highest scoring Center in the NBA. Yeah he played for a cancerous team the Knicks. I think he does better with better teammates.
Curry’s averages have certainly dropped this year. But when you examine his per-40 minute averages, Curry’s drop off is not that significant. He averaged 35 minutes per game last season, but with the addition of Zach Randolph and the continued improvement of David Lee, he is playing just 27 minutes per game this year.
Last year, Curry averaged 19.5 points per game, or 22.1 points/40 minutes. This year, his average has dropped to 14.0 points per game, which translates to 20.5 points/40 minutes. Curry is taking two less shots per game than last season, so the drop-off is minimal.
Curry is also averaging two less rebounds per game than last year, grabbing 5.1 boards per night this season. In terms of rebounds per 40 minutes, however, Curry’s average has dropped by just 0.6 rebounds, hardly surprising given the presence of Randolph.
And Curry, who was a disaster taking care of the ball last year has dropped his turnover average from 3.6 per game to 2.1. According to ESPN's John Hollinger, only 13.9% of Curry's possessions are ending in turnovers, compared to 17.7% from last year.
Nonetheless, when Curry’s name was announced as a starter, the Madison Square Garden faithful booed.
Curry responded with 24 points, his highest total since Nov. 21.
“I don’t think I needed a message,” Curry said about his benching to the New York Times. “But I got it, though. He could have told me. I respond well to conversation as well.”
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...ddy-curry.aspx
The front office is out to lunch.
i guess common sense goes to few people here....
Well, it was apparently enough for the Spurs to send him to Europe. Why isn't it okay for me to argue he could help, but it's okay for the Spurs to think he isn't ready?
The problem is, we all saw Ian play. I have a sinking feeling this is going to turn into another Beno experiment, where Pop and R.C. play the guy and keep him around just because they aren't willing to admit they ed up for another 3 years or so...
It's getting clearer by the day that all the brains in the front office left with Presti and to a lesser extent Pritchard. And people better not hang this all on Buford, Pop is just as responsible for this clusterF of an off-season.
Okay, when does the Euro season end?
If Gist does well and is finished with the Euro season by mid-March, do you think the Spurs consider bringing him over?
Well I don't know when it ends, but their season isn't that long. So there should be some time between the end of his season in Italy and the Spurs NBA season.
The season consists of a home-and-away schedule of 34 games, followed by an eight-team playoff round. Quarter-finals and semifinals series are best-of-five, final series is best-of-seven.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A_%28basketball%29
Well, looking at their Italian web-site, it looks like they'll play through May if you go through to the Finals. So Gist may be in Europe for the whole season.
http://195.56.77.208/schedule/
I think that's their whole schedule and the last games are all the way through May - I think.
Not that I disagree with everything you posted but Mahinmi was 100% a Presti pick. You can't bash Mahinmi in one paragraph and then praise Presti in the next paragraph.
And Presti's first rounder just signed in Europe for three years, so can't really say Presti would have done any different in terms of Gist.
Gist = MVP of the Euroleague
There is so much talent poping up everywhere these days...
I bet we will have another chance on getting a player that we dream for soon!
So because you have a "sinking feeling" based on less than 5 summer league games, Spurs should give up on Mahinmi ?
Saying that Gist>>>> Mahinmi after some SL games is a huge reach.
First, it's SL games. Second, it's not like Mahinmi has been horrible in these games and Gist outstanding.
Could the Spurs not have "asked" Gist to just play for the Toros on a "handshake" agreement? I mean, they would have his rights still. Not everyone on the Toros rights are held by the Spurs correct? I guess that would not be fair to Gist though if he is making more money in Italy.The stupidest thing about this is that let's say Gist plays extremely well in Europe next season. He then will have European teams offering him a couple million dollars per season to stay. And since he's already done a season in Europe, he'd be much more likely to stay. The Spurs could then end up having to waste MLE money on him down the line. Or perhaps they won't want to give MLE money to a second round pick and will let him stay over there until they trade his rights.
Great thinking, Spurs. Play with fire once again. How could that ever go wrong?
Tim is right, the plan all along was to send Gist to Europe. That was reported the first day of SL. Just because he had a nice SL, does not mean you abandon the plan. They have to be making other moves, so lets just wait and see.
We will all look back and laugh in 2 months...hopefully
Because they've watched more film on him, they've worked with him in two-a-day practices, they've seen his talent level and readiness up close, and they may be evaluating players differently than Spurs' fans (ie, things other than SL statistics). I'm going to give the FO more credibility on personnel moves than ST posters most of the time, you're free to argue otherwise and laugh at me if proven right. This is not to say he won't help in the future, just not next year.
I don't get it, last year we'd have games where we'd be on this embarrassing quarter long droughts, the front office goes to fix that with scorers and you guys complain? What low post game stopped us last year? Certainly wasn't Odom or Shaq.
I think Gist will help this year - Italy is well within his shooting range.
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